Every time again ... E3 rant topic.

[CerberusGate]

I guess in co-op consoles win the round though.

Yeah; whenever I think of co-op games, my first thoughts are always consoles. Sometimes, nothing truly beats the experience of good split-screen co-op plus the plug and play aspects of good consoles always means nearly immediate access to co-op play.

Which is why I roll my eyes and wince at some co-op multiplayer games that do not have split screen (i.e Halo 5) and attempt to weakly justify removing said feature for some arbitrary reason.

 

[Risewild]

I even remember getting my friend to bring his PSX to my house and we would connect my playstation with his playstation, put my room tv behind my brother's room tv facing away from eachother and we could play Command and Conquer Red Alert Retaliation against eachother .

It was before I had a good PC (1998-1999), so being able to play a Command and Conquer game in "LAN" using the first playstation was really cool back then.

EDIT: I just remembered (hopefully, my memory is really not trustworthy) that we didn't even need to buy two games for that, if my memory is working right we could play against eachother because the game came on two disks (the Soviets and the Allies) and which of us could use one of those to play.

I don't have any "modern" consoles (my latest console was a PS2 because I could play my old PSX games and PS2 games on it) but I wonder if consoles today can have some kind of "LAN" capabilities or (I assume this will be the case) will only have online or co-op (second controller) capabilities. It's a bit stupid that today consoles are all more computers than consoles but they might have lost the "LAN" capability.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Modern games rarely have splitscreen, yet alone LAN!

What is LAN? Sounds like some sort of shitty PC peasant race stuff.

 

[Atomkilla]

Best co-op game (and generally best game ever) is Battle City (also known as Tank 1990).

This, along with Super Mario, is the game that got me into gaming. I spent countless evening playing this in co-op with my father on old NES.

 

[TorontoReign]

I remember rigging up a cardboard screen divider to play Duke Nukem: Time to Kill and Super Mario Kart on split screen without seeing the other player's screen. So ghetto but pretty cool.

 

[Norzan]

Is Bethesda trying to put Skyrim in every possible platform? What's next, Skyrim on Commodore 64? Skyrim on TurboGrafx-16? Skyrim on a Pong console? Jesus, just give it a rest.

 

[TorontoReign]

Is Bethesda trying to put Skyrim in every possible platform? What's next, Skyrim on Commodore 64? Skyrim on TurboGrafx-16? Skyrim on a Pong console? Jesus, just give it a rest.

It still sells for some reason.

 

[Risewild]

Best co-op game (and generally best game ever) is Battle City (also known as Tank 1990).

This, along with Super Mario, is the game that got me into gaming. I spent countless evening playing this in co-op with my father on old NES.

TANK!!!!!
Man, I played the shit out of that game in my NES. It had different wall types and tanks. I think it even had a level maker.
Games back then were way more fun than now. Games today are all about graphics and shit but old games that were so simple were also so much fun and more complex than they look today.

 

[Atomkilla]

TANK!!!!!
Man, I played the shit out of that game in my NES. It had different wall types and tanks. I think it even had a level maker.
Games back then were way more fun than now. Games today are all about graphics and shit but old games that were so simple were also so much fun and more complex than they look today.

Glad I'm not the only one here who played it.

Yeah, there was a level maker. You were limited to making one level per playthrough, and then that level is featured instead of the regular first level (the first level is shown on that pic). The rest of the levels stay the same, and everything returns to normal next time you play. There were 25 levels IIRC, and then the game starts all over again, but more difficult I think.
I remember cheesing it as a kid and making the wall around my base made out of solid steel, which was impenetrable on the first few levels due to the lack of big guns power-up which you usually get only later.

But yeah, that game was fantastic. It was deceptively simple but was actually quite complex at the time. Fully destructible environment, different types of enemies, friendly fire, additional powers where you "level up" and the punishing game over when your base gets destroyed. The game would get a lot more difficult on subsequent levels, especially in co-op.
No story, nothing but pure fun.

To this day I find those sound effects entertaining.




During the second year of my studies I made friends with some colleagues who, as it turned out, loved this game when they were children. We downloaded an emulator and ROM, got cheap gamepads and lots of beer and would play the shit out of it.

To this day it kind of bugs me that this game never got a spiritual sequel or something similar, especially in the indie Renaissance, where retro is the thing. I know this game had a huge following back in the day, and there were many modded versions floating around which added new power-ups, fan-made levels and what not...
I could easily see a new title with similar premise, with improved HD graphics, more levels and power ups, online co-op mode and a level maker.
On the other hand, nothing will ever beat the original.

It saddens me a bit that they didn't feature this game on NES Classic edition which came out last year...

 

[Risewild]

Glad I'm not the only one here who played it.

Yeah, there was a level maker. You were limited to making one level per playthrough, and then that level is featured instead of the regular first level (the first level is shown on that pic). The rest of the levels stay the same, and everything returns to normal next time you play. There were 25 levels IIRC, and then the game starts all over again, but more difficult I think.
I remember cheesing it as a kid and making the wall around my base made out of solid steel, which was impenetrable on the first few levels due to the lack of big guns power-up which you usually get only later.

But yeah, that game was fantastic. It was deceptively simple but was actually quite complex at the time. Fully destructible environment, different types of enemies, friendly fire, additional powers where you "level up" and the punishing game over when your base gets destroyed. The game would get a lot more difficult on subsequent levels, especially in co-op.
No story, nothing but pure fun.

To this day I find those sound effects entertaining.




During the second year of my studies I made friends with some colleagues who, as it turned out, loved this game when they were children. We downloaded an emulator and ROM, got cheap gamepads and lots of beer and would play the shit out of it.

To this day it kind of bugs me that this game never got a spiritual sequel or something similar, especially in the indie Renaissance, where retro is the thing. I know this game had a huge following back in the day, and there were many modded versions floating around which added new power-ups, fan-made levels and what not...
I could easily see a new title with similar premise, with improved HD graphics, more levels and power ups, online co-op mode and a level maker.
On the other hand, nothing will ever beat the original.

It saddens me a bit that they didn't feature this game on NES Classic edition which came out last year...

I used to make my eagle base surrounded by steel walls too .
And the nerves when we would see a shell coming our way and we would try to escape it but the tank was slow and then we made it at the last second .

I did have the idea of making an indie game studio that would specialize into making successor games from old classic games that were really fun.
There are many gamers today that have no idea how actually fun a game can be. This sounds like bullshit but I know a few of those myself. And they refuse to get an emulator or old console and play those games because "eeeew old stuff, it looks like shit" and so on. It's the same as now the Spinners trend, it is something that spins, it's like some old toys that would just do almost nothing but were fun to play with, kids these days are all used to video games and all kind of technological gadgets that they don't know how fun and addictive simple toys are.
If a game studio would acquire the rights for the old games or just make new games that follow the same formula exactly (since some probably don't even have a license anymore if they are old enough), it would catch fast, because people don't know this kind of fun anymore because games now have a different kind of fun.

Oh well... I can't explain myself as good as I would like to today, my brain isn't working properly today .

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Fuck, I had one of those cheap 'billion nes games' consoles which had TANK on it.

That was awesome.

 

[Black Angel]

Modern games rarely have splitscreen, yet alone LAN!

What is LAN? Sounds like some sort of shitty PC peasant race stuff.

Really, mate? LAN, Local Area Network. Basically, you get your PC in a room, and your friends PC in the same room, and then one of you create LAN using your PC, and that PC act as a hotspot. Then, playing a game that have a LAN feature (any decent games on PC should have that), like, Warcraft or Dawn of War or what have you, one of you create a room, which can be joined by other PC connected with the hotspot, and voila! A LAN party.

It's one of THE best things about PC. Ah, the good old days of playing DotA mod in Warcraft 3 with my friends using LAN..... About a year ago I did it with my friends on some Dota 2 competition in my college.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Really, mate? LAN, Local Area Network. Basically, you get your PC in a room, and your friends PC in the same room, and then one of you create LAN using your PC, and that PC act as a hotspot. Then, playing a game that have a LAN feature (any decent games on PC should have that), like, Warcraft or Dawn of War or what have you, one of you create a room, which can be joined by other PC connected with the hotspot, and voila! A LAN party.

It's one of THE best things about PC. Ah, the good old days of playing DotA mod in Warcraft 3 with my friends using LAN..... About a year ago I did it with my friends on some Dota 2 competition in my college.

;P

Mate, pulling your chain.

I used to use LAN to play AVP2 with friends and such.

Also used it with Hamachi for Minecraft.

 

[Black Angel]

ThatZenoGuy: "Well, you sit by the mound and wait until you can see the fairy circle in the dew. If you jump into the fairy ring, you'll be made to dance until dawn with the wee folk. If you survive, they'll steal you away to the land of fairie. (heee, hah, hah, hah)"
Black Angel: Somehow, I think you're pulling my leg about this whole thing.

;P

Mate, pulling your chain.

I used to use LAN to play AVP2 with friends and such.

Also used it with Hamachi for Minecraft.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

ThatZenoGuy: "Well, you sit by the mound and wait until you can see the fairy circle in the dew. If you jump into the fairy ring, you'll be made to dance until dawn with the wee folk. If you survive, they'll steal you away to the land of fairie. (heee, hah, hah, hah)"
Black Angel: Somehow, I think you're pulling my leg about this whole thing.

*Hugs*

 

[Crni Vuk]

It still sells for some reason.

Skyrim has the appeal of Mc Donalds food. Just with gaming.

 

[Jogre]

Skyrim has the appeal of Mc Donalds food. Just with gaming.

McDonalds is cheap tho.

Skyrim doesn't even have that advantage.

 

[Gizmojunk]

Has anyone here ever compared Skyrim to Rune?

I would argue that while Skyrim looks prettier and Rune is not 'open-world', Skyrim is actually less functional than Rune, Rune has better maps... (and probably a better story; I got bored with Skyrim pretty early on, but I played Rune through to the bitter end, and thought it superb).

Spoiler

 

[0wing]

Bethesda bans Trump-related meme mods BTW. If Bethesda's moderation finds out you're a Trump-supporter - you mod will be deleted. Never trust Todd or anyone @ Bethesda or any fan/supporter of Bethesda ever. Never engage yourself into dialog with any of those above, just walk away with optional "F U", it'll suffice.

 

[0wing]

I'm glad you took it into consideration.