Sorry for being so aggressive, I'm really gonna try no to be that way. I sincerely apologize.
No problem, I didn’t think you came off as aggressive. Sorry if I come off as rude, I’m just trying to politely disagree.
Did you get into these games recently?
Been playing the originals semi-regularly since 2013 or so, though it got into the fallout lore around 2006. My point is I’m not some newbie that hasn’t played the originals. My username is even a reference to a certain dialogue option in fallout 2, just as yours is a reference to private Doddson at the Sierra Military Base (I think? Boy it would be embarrassing if I’m wrong about this)(Edit: never mind, that’s private dobbs)
defeating the masters army and the cult or the enclave, both two evil groups kidnapping people in the wasteland and they both use the FEV to PURGE AND CLEAN the wasteland of the unworthy, it's always this very almost nazi-level evil.
Now we’re getting to the meat of the matter. You compare the enclave and the master as if they are similar, but the two groups are actually quite different, and I think this is a great example of what people mean when they say fallout 1 is more thematically consistent, or that fallout 1 and 2 differ thematically.
You say they both want to use FEV to purge and clean the wasteland, but in reality this only describes the Enclave. The master doesn’t want to use FEV to “purge” anything except human nature. His whole motivation is to “forcibly evolve” the human race into something that can actually get along and not destroy themselves in war. This ties in well with the tagline: war never changes. The master actually wants what in his mind is the best for everyone. The enclave might say they want what’s best for humanity, but they only consider themselves to be truly human, and literally want to genocide the rest of the world. The master wants to bring everyone into his Unity, not kill them.
The other things you mention don’t really convince me that Fallout 1 and 2 are inseparable and should be judged as two pieces of a whole. Things like the protagonists being related or shady sands and vault 13 being present in both games have more to do with the fact that fallout 2 is, well, a direct sequel, so it’s going to share the same setting as the first game, likely taking place after the events of the first game. And the fact that arroyo and vault 13 get reunited at the end is entirely something that happens in fallout 2, it’s not foreshadowed by the plot of fallout 1 or anything like that.
I don't care if a lot of people here bash fallout and say retarded things like "It's not thematically coherent" etc. It is. You guys are wrong.
Where do you think we are? This is one of the few places on the internet that loves the originals and hate the Bethesda ones. The fact that some of us think fallout 2 is “thematically incoherent” or whatever is a holdover from back when fallout 2 was originally released, and a lot of fans had complaints about it. Granted, most of us active here now weren’t around here back then, but I believe that’s where the sentiment stems from.
I don't get it why you want to shit on the games so much. I think it's a bad attempt at fitting in and appearing sophisticated. You are exactly like people who say that every skill except small guns, big guns and speech are uncesseracy. You are the people who say that the sneak skill is broken, without ever using it, or saying the temple of trails is "too hard", often hiding the fact that you suck at the game with comments about how the automatic doors are weird or whatever. For me, it takes TWO minutes TOPS to finish the temple of trails. I don't kill a single ant. If you do your homework you can even talk your way out of the fight at the end, so it's like clicking yourself through a corridor and then clicking some more.You should play the games at least 20-30 hours before you say something, or at least play them through and through once.
You’re being a little accusatory here. I don’t relate to any of these sentiments. I’ve played the game quite enough to know what I’m talking about. I’m actually in the middle of a fallout 2 play through rights now.
Answer me this. Have you completed Fallout?
What do you mean, Fallout 1 or Fallout 2?
(I really wish I had a gif of the bridgekeeper exploding right now)