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  1. Scylla

    Scylla First time out of the vault

    4
    May 10, 2022
    I'm considering replaying Tactics, of which I have fond memories.

    -Going into the game what are you looking forward to?
    Complete my knowledge of the lore and story / stories started with the original Fallout. In particular, find out who are the Enclave. My previous playthroughs all ended with crashes prevented me from going beyond Broken Hills. Patches and mods got rid of them.
    -After having completed it what did you think of the game?
    An excellent CRPG which somehow hasn't aged. It lacks the consistency of the original game but makes up for it with a ton of content (locations, factions, quests). See my extensive review.
    -What would you improve?
    Crank up the postapoc look & feel on New Reno, New San Francisco and the Oil Rig.
    -What's your thoughts on the main quest?
    Lacking. After leaving Arroyo it's hard to look back and feel empathy for these clueless tribals. In terms of gameplay, the GECK acts as a MacGuffin that requires extensive travelling through the world map, with a difficulty gate at the end of these trips.
    -Does the game still hold up in 2022?
    Yes absolutely. Though I'm glad I used the RPU and rescaled the resolution for my modern screen.
    -Does it add to Fallout lore in a good way?
    Mostly. Vault City is an excellent concept and well executed. New San Francisco is the opposite.
    -What's the game's strengths and weaknesses?
    Player freedom. Consistency issues, bad tutorial.
    -What would you like to change in the game?
    Rebalance combat so that aiming for the eyes isn't always the solution.
    -What build did you use during your play-through?
    Small guns, Speech, Lockpick, with high Perception, Agility and Charisma.
    -What's your weapon of choice?
    The .223 pistol, like in the first game. So much punch, so many ammo, mighty SFX, can be wielded by Sulik.
    -Describe your favourite quest and why you like it!
    Steal the vertibird plans from Navarro, using stealth first and brute force later. Not very Fallout-y but plenty of fun.
    -What's your favourite location in the game?
    Modoc. It doesn't serve any purpose to the main storyline, and yet it has a well crafted atmosphere, with an infinite nostalgy for better days which won't return. Especially if you can't find the kid who fell in the pit. This is so freaking sad.
    -What ending did you strive for/get?
    Good girl, pro-NCR.
    -If the game is on Steam then write a sentence that would catch the NMA perception of it and that we could use for our Steam curator.
    I run my own curator. Here's how we're probaby going to review FO2: "This genre-defining CRPG is still well worth playing today, preferably with patches and mods. While it lacks the consistency of the first game, it makes up for it with a wealth of postapoc content."
    -If the game is a total conversion mod: Could it be considered as part of the Fallout canon?
    N/A
    -Is Fallout 2 a good sequel to Fallout?
    Yes and no. It spoils its consistency. But it's the next best thing after Fallout!
     
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  2. Proletären

    Proletären Vault Fossil
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    Mar 15, 2012
    Yeah I need to change squad members...

    @Scylla thank you! Sound like you had a great time. I look forward to playing Fallout 2 a slight bit more now.

    Tactics is not as good but it's interesting to explore. There are a few suggestions on mods to use in the starting post of this thread.
     
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  3. Proletären

    Proletären Vault Fossil
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    I finally got the time to beat Peoria. I got an extra fusion battery from the elder so that was good.

    Next up is Quincy and the Beastlord faction which I'm very much looking forward to. I like the idea of Beastlords so I will put a keen eye to their lore.

    It's now time to change my rooster somewhat. @Hubal, do you have any counsel on how many melee fighters and how to best make use of them?
     
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  4. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    Aug 9, 2017
    You might want to wait with getting melee/ unarmed until finishing Mardin (mission after Quincy if you're playing without Springfield) as you get some of the better ones then.
     
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  5. Proletären

    Proletären Vault Fossil
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    Thanks for the advice!

    Btw any word on that Sonora update?
     
  6. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    Aug 9, 2017
    This was posted by one of the users

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    Waiting for Sonora DLC since 2020.
     
  7. JunjiItosGio

    JunjiItosGio Still Mildly Glowing

    247
    Oct 29, 2020
    Wait, Sonora is getting DLC?
     
  8. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    Aug 9, 2017
    San Diego/ Dayglow (according to posts on Russian nuclear-city it's gonna be huge with a new Vault, navy base, couple of ruined districts and 4 scav camps), extra quests in existing locations, new items and remade sprites for some of the older items, restored cut location San Felipe (apparently more combat heavy than other locations), possibly new endings.

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    Release or just announcement of date of release (nobody is 100% sure) in a couple of months (someone said April/ May, but someone else mentioned summer).

    https://www.nuclear-city.com/index.php/topic/977-fallout-sonora-новости-обсуждение/page-32
     
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  9. Proletären

    Proletären Vault Fossil
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    The wait will be worth it!

    What do I do with the Fusion Batteries and the Medical Info from Peoria? Do I just sell them?
     
  10. JunjiItosGio

    JunjiItosGio Still Mildly Glowing

    247
    Oct 29, 2020
    Holy shit that’s a huge update. And to think I can’t even play the base game yet because it hasn’t been translated to English :(
     
  11. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    Aug 9, 2017
    I kept the fusion cells until the end, as you burn through a lot of ammo near the end.
    Medical info is probably from the mods you're using as I don't remember anything like that (wiki also doesn't have it).

    There's machine translation:
    https://uloz.to/file/oKHTUPsoDezJ/sonora-english-rar

    One of the posters on Codex mentioned that it's a bit janky and had some [Error] with text missing, but he finished the game and that narrative and dialogues were understandable.

    Decided to test the Google translator, but reading Sonora bible would be a massive spoiler- so I decided to translate the Nevada Wendover design doc.
     

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  12. JunjiItosGio

    JunjiItosGio Still Mildly Glowing

    247
    Oct 29, 2020
    I appreciate the suggestion, but if it’s Google translated I think I’ll wait for the official one. I’d rather my first experience be completely legible and localized.
     
  13. Proletären

    Proletären Vault Fossil
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    Ok! I'm just unused to keep quest-items instead of turning them in for a reward. It feels weird.

    Yep apparently it's an addition from the Redux mod. You get 600xp for finding medical data on a computer terminal but you can't hand the holodisc over to anyone at the bunker, which again is odd.
     
  14. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Knog Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Probably the duct tape holding the thing together.
     
  15. JellyJman

    JellyJman First time out of the vault

    13
    May 6, 2022
    Almost done with Nevada, it’s kinda surreal upon realizing that the game can actually be finished really quickly. Like you only need to go to 4 maps to actually finish the game. The rest is all great filler lol.
     
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  16. Proletären

    Proletären Vault Fossil
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    Would be interesting to see a speedrun...
     
  17. Proletären

    Proletären Vault Fossil
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    I just finished Quincy which was a fun mission, although it took me an entire week of small doses of gaming to finally complete it.

    Since I'm a completionist I will continue with Springfield although @Alphons called it meh. I'm already somewhat bored with Tactics so expect it to take some time. Then I will do Mardin which I look forward to because of the faction lore for the Beast Lords.

    I must say I love General Barnaky and the voice actor does splendid work giving life to the character. These quotes are fantastic:

     
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  18. Alphons

    Alphons National Beholder

    Aug 9, 2017
    Unlike other city missions like Quincy, Cold Water, Junction City or Macomb, Springfield is very linear.

    There're no side objectives like hostages and almost zero reasons to explore the buildings, so you just follow the only path available occasionally shooting raiders.


    Voice actors were alright, with some great ones like Barnaky or the tribal elder in Pretoria.
     
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  19. Proletären

    Proletären Vault Fossil
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    You can continuously use Science on the ScribeNet Archives terminals at the Bunker and get 40xp everytime you succeed. I just gave myself another level before heading out.
     
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