Fallout 3 Hands-Ons #3
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UniversalWolf
eaten by a grue.
Your proposition has a certain logic to it - if we assume he's really bad at, like, writing sentences and stuff. But then, he does a lot of writing, doesn't he? I'm sure Reverend Anthony didn't learn grammar from his dog (you know, the one with the fleas?).
I've been told Fallout 3 fulfills the promise of virtual reality, so I guess anything's possible.
winterraptor
First time out of the vault
Very informative, no?
Wait, violent 'moves'? What the hell? Do you do some kind of power up and then fire a sniper rifle? Maybe a battle cry? 'Gorka Morka!'
I met a bandit once who decided to sit down and have some tea with me. He was my 'bandit buddy'.
Especially when they're very hostile.
Why exactly do I need the pipboy to jam a huge hypo in my arm?
Anyway, seriously, did someone let their 8 year old have a crack at an article at 'ActionTrip'?
Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
K.C. Cool said:
With crap like the Decapitating Teddybear Railgun™, the Fatman seems tame.
Continuum
Vault Fossil
Because he was so excited with flying body parts and he made a typo. Should be:Brother None said:
I just read through all these and a couple of things struck me:
1. Two of the previews stress that there are RPG elements in addition to the combat. One of them gives two examples: that you can find lots of items for use in combat, and that you can find new items on enemies after combat. The other gives the example that you can customize your character to be good at different sorts of combat.
2. One previewer says he's not allowed to talk about dialogue. One previewer says he's not allowed to talk about character data. Yet many other previewers talk about both these things.
Finally one nitpicky detail that I think was in another preview than these ones but I'm putting it here anyway: it was mentioned that an old machine could produce highly radioactive beverages. However, if the machine has been a closed system since the war (so that the water has not evaporated), the resulting beverage wouldn't be radioactive.
1. Two of the previews stress that there are RPG elements in addition to the combat. One of them gives two examples: that you can find lots of items for use in combat, and that you can find new items on enemies after combat. The other gives the example that you can customize your character to be good at different sorts of combat.
2. One previewer says he's not allowed to talk about dialogue. One previewer says he's not allowed to talk about character data. Yet many other previewers talk about both these things.
Finally one nitpicky detail that I think was in another preview than these ones but I'm putting it here anyway: it was mentioned that an old machine could produce highly radioactive beverages. However, if the machine has been a closed system since the war (so that the water has not evaporated), the resulting beverage wouldn't be radioactive.
Per, any residual radiation left by the war bombings would entirely dissipate within several years. A couple of decades for some of the longer living isotopes, perhaps, but 200 years? Bethesda's views on radiation and decomposition (not to mention teddy bears) are entirely unscientific and unrealistic. With that in mind, there's no point in dissecting such minor details, really.
Anani Masu
Still Mildly Glowing
That's not really Bethesda's view so much as it's the Fallout view.
Please. The original was much more reasonable in that regard. It didn't have radioactive ghoul spells and radioactive food. Radiation was dangerous and often lethal, just the way it should be. And the environment looked considerably more dilapidated and appropriate. There were no 200-year-old cheesecakes lying around either. The only foods I recall that made it from the war were Box Of Noodles and a box or two of Cheezy Poofs.
Seymour the spore plant
Still Mildly Glowing
More importantly, according to the Fallout Bible timeline, the major nuclear attacks were launched in October 23, 2077. Fallout 1 took place in 2161. That's roughly half the time elapsed from Fallout 3, so one would expect radiation to be less prominent this time around.
Maybe it's all those Fatmans being catapulted around, though.
Maybe it's all those Fatmans being catapulted around, though.
Anani Masu
Still Mildly Glowing
One would also expect that the radiation would be mostly harmless by the time of Fallout 1 and that a Mr. Nixon doll would have crumbled to dust well before Fallout 2. The Fallout series has always been like this in regards to stretching reality to make a more interesting game.
Anyone with scientific knowledge who knows how long background radiation of a nuclear explosion lasts.
For the sake of it, think the yield of a modern thermo nuclear weapon.
For the sake of it, think the yield of a modern thermo nuclear weapon.
The Seven-Ten Rule: for every sevenfold increase in time after detonation, there is a tenfold decrease in the radiation rate. E.g., if the radiation intensity 1hr after detonation is 1,000 Roentgens (measure of radiation exposure) per hour, after 7hr it will have decreased to 1/10 as much. In 7 more time periods (7 X 7 = 49 hours or two days) the radiation level will be 1/100 of the original rate. After about a two-week period, the level of radiation will be at 1/1000 of the level at 1hr after detonation.
"As of 2005, Cs-137 is the principal source of radiation in the exclusion zone around the Chernobyl power plant." When it comes to nuclear explosions, Caesium-137 is one of longer living isotopes. It has a half-life of 30.23 years, which means it won't be be of any significance in 200 years.
"As of 2005, Cs-137 is the principal source of radiation in the exclusion zone around the Chernobyl power plant." When it comes to nuclear explosions, Caesium-137 is one of longer living isotopes. It has a half-life of 30.23 years, which means it won't be be of any significance in 200 years.
Anani Masu
Still Mildly Glowing
So if fallout 1 took place 84 years after the bombs dropped thats 84 years * 356 days * 24 hours = 717696 hours since the end of the world. 7^6 = 117649 and 7^7 = 823543 so the radiation in Fallout 1 should be between 1/1,000,000 and 1/10,000,000 of what it was right after the war (though closer to the one/ten millionth).
He's clearly referring to the Enclave. If with somewhat awkward writing.UniversalWolf said:
Bodybag said:
No. We don't mind public discussion of strikes. It just won't get you anywhere.
Believe me, B, I'm doing my best to not ban you, but you keep making it pretty hard for me to do.
Bodybag said:
You're joking? Even hints of condoning piracy risk getting vatted here, outright going out and saying "I will pirate" or "I have pirated" risks a ban.
We're on a gaming network, y'know. And even if we weren't, most of the NMA staff doesn't like piracy.
Eyenixon said:
Fair's fair, Destructoid is a blog foremost and a professional site second. Like Games Radar, they tend to take the material less seriously. Which is fine as long as you know what to expect.
Ranne said:
Not Bethesda's: Fallout's. Fallout's approach to radioactive has always been and hopefully will always be that of the popular mind's understanding of radiation in the 50's. That is: not a lot.
That said, you may be right as to the approach to foodstuffs. Something doesn't sit well in Bethesda's take, there.
Per said:
Typical, ain't it?
If they signed NDAs, you'd expect them to be better informed of what said NDAs contain.
Polynikes said:
Yeah, but they think putting in the game some small parts from the predecessors will make a sequal?
Or maybe
"Okay guys, we're doing Fallout!!"
<after>
"Guys, this is soo cool FPS...wait, wern't we suppose to do Fallout's sequel? A post-apocalyptic role playing game, isometric and turn-based combat?? Oh shit, quick, we gotta put some Fallout stuff in there to make it look like it's Fallout!!"
And now we have something like this...