Fallout 3 - pray to god it will be intact

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jedandjess

First time out of the vault
Hi All

Just got up to date with the Fallout 3 situation, been offline for a few years so glad to hear it's in development still. Just a few things though ...
Over the years I have - played FO1 a few times
completed FO2 a few times :)
played and played and played FOT
One of the best ever roleplaying games in history on all platforms in my opinion, and a credit to PC gaming. So now, Bethesda have FO 3 if I am correct. So, morrowind, another all time classic from a company that has made many - Terminator games like skynet, the older Elder Scrolls games as well. Then came Oblivion, a dumbed down, eye-candy made for console slit the throat of ES series game I will never ever play.
I just pray that - even though I know they WILL - they don't RUIN one of the potentially best PC games ever. Deus Ex 2 I got over. Oblivion I can handle. Quake 4 I have chosen to ignore. If FO 3 falls, I'm out for revenge. :evil:

van
 
Moved to the correct forum. I suspect you may still be derided for pointlessness, though.
 
You could say that Im just ranting. On the other hand, you could say that if everyone who was potentially gonna buy FO 3, and FO 4 and 5 etc. all made it clear that if the developer wanders from the original quality and content, they WOULDN'T buy anything from them ever again, it might help the cause.
Or we could just sit here, say nothing, talk about the good old days and buy an XBOX360.
 
Per said:
I suspect you may still be derided for pointlessness, though.
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Yes. Yes, he will. I can't be fussed to come up with something very original for this guy, though. Hopefully someone else will pick up the slack.

jedandjess said:
Then came Oblivion, a dumbed down, eye-candy made for console slit the throat of ES series game I will never ever play.
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Don't judge it too early. I'm not saying you're wrong, because you aren't. I do find it funny that you say Oblivion is dumbed down, but Morrowind is a classic, though. If Morrowind isn't dumbed down, I don't know what is.

Bethesda IS going to screw up Fallout 3, I know that for a fact. However I guarantee you won't actually do anything about it (that matters) when they do. You'll curl up in fetal position in your room. Your dark, dark room. Or you'll bitch on RPGCodex. It's almost the same thing, really.

There you go- a post almost as pointless as yours, jedandjess. Merry Channukwanzaa.

jedandjess said:
Or we could just sit here, say nothing, talk about the good old days and buy an XBOX360.
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PS: I hate you. Go die.
 
Maybe I'll do neither, to be honest. RPGcodex????.
Still, I didn't say Morrowind wasn't dumbed down. I said Oblivion was. Morrowind was the first RPG I'd played in many years, and as I hadn't played the earlier games, how would I know it was dumbed down?
Anyways, how will a fallout game work on a console? Xcom Enforcer style maybe.

Better get into position and turn out the lights.
lol
rentboy
 
I shall answer your question in haiku. (because i'm good like that)

Fallout, on console?
Shit controls, bad graphics and,
No, fucking, story.
 
I don't know, Roshambo usually distributes the prizes to winners.
 
Robot Santa said:
I think that might be a safe assumption.

*grabs popcorn*
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heeey, even though it's christmas it's still your responsibility to make entertainment and the rest of us can eat popcorn.
It's the unwritten rules.
 
jedandjess said:
You could say that Im just ranting. On the other hand, you could say that if everyone who was potentially gonna buy FO 3, and FO 4 and 5 etc. all made it clear that if the developer wanders from the original quality and content, they WOULDN'T buy anything from them ever again, it might help the cause.
Or we could just sit here, say nothing, talk about the good old days and buy an XBOX360.
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I could mock you, for the idiocy of this thread and it's placing, but I will instead be informative.
I think that 95% of us are worried that Bethesda will make a mockery of Fo3, however alot of us post our own ideas about how it could be improved in seperate threads.
I shall now explain the process of making a fallout game to ye of little knowledge, first they boil the brains of fans, for that is where the blueprints for the game are made, then they grind faeries into the mix, for that is where the magic comes from. Then a big disc-shape biscuit cutter cuts it into shape, ready for release into the market.
 
This topic may be pointless, but it summons very well a lot of posts i`m finding everywhere in the net, so it might be good to keep it as an historical piece for the future or something :s .

And anyway welcome Jedandjess, the truth is we all have a very strong gut feeling of what expect us, but not many facts to back up that feeling, so we´re mostly waiting and giving suggestions, maybe you should try that too.
 
The main reason I loved Fallout so much was because of its story and deep atmosphere. If Beth does decide to make FO3 like Oblivion, it might breathe new life into the post-nuke genre. Morrowind was a good game, and did have a pretty deep story, with huge, interesting landscapes. If Beth takes the same approach with FO3, we might be actually able to traverse the Wastes ourselves to find our next objective or location. So instead of fearing that Beth might destroy what we love about FO, I'm looking forward to see if they can take the best parts of FO and inject them with some ES-esque goodness.

In short, I think Beth can make a good Fallout game, and FO3 won't suck (too much).

But yeah, giving suggestions is good. And welcome jedandjess. Try not to make more mistakes, or you'll have to face the consequences.
 
When will people get it through their thick adolescent heads that while Fallout is more than the sum of it's parts all those parts are important. It's like a recipe, you can't just pick out one or two ingredients, then add a load of totaly different stuff and expect to have the same thing. Sure you can update things, use better quality ingredients maybe spice things up with a splash of this or that but you have to keep the basics of the recipe intact.

WTF 'breathe new life into the post nuke genre' WTF??? There aren't exactly many post apocalyptic games, even less if you restrict it to a nuclear apocalypse and even less if you're talking about RPGs. The only thing needed to breathe new life into the genre is a new game.
 
Chill, Req. This thread's gonna be fun soon.

*sets up popcorn stand*
 
Signeon said:
TIf Beth does decide to make FO3 like Oblivion, it might breathe new life into the post-nuke genre.
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I don't think injecting the genre with cadaverous stench of shitty first person action games qualifies as "breathing new life" into it.

Morrowind was a good game, and did have a pretty deep story, with huge, interesting landscapes.
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Sorry, but having played Gothic, I can confidently state that Morrowind's game world is pretty much Snoreville. Also, having played Fallout, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, VtM: Bloodlines and Arcanum, I can confidently state that Morrowind's story is about as deep as the portion of the gene pool which you and your kin paddle in.

If Beth takes the same approach with FO3, we might be actually able to traverse the Wastes ourselves to find our next objective or location.
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This must be the stupidest suggestion I have heard in a *long* time. Tell me, do you have *any* idea how *huge* the game area in Fallout and Fallout 2 is? Did you somehow manage to miss the fact that Fallout 2 encompasses *half of the fucking western US*? A trot from New Reno to NCR through desolate (and utterly boring) wasteland which lies between them would take *days* of *real-world* time! If you took entire Vvanderfell (or whatever the fuck it's called) and placed it in the Fallout world, it would fit in one square of the map!

*Think* before you post.
 
I said Morrowind had a pretty deep story, not comparing it to any other games. You are right that it is not deep compared to some other RPGs, but by its own merits, I think it's decent.

You are right about the action elements, so I'm not going to try to defend myself.

And I know exactly how big the area Fallout encompasses, but I think a Morrowind-esque travel system would show just how massive the area is. I don't think the FO world map ever did it full justice.

But overall, I would still prefer, as everyone would, to have just a classic-style Fallout game. Beth is obviously not going to do that, so we may as well look at FO3 as a game set in the same universe and take it for what it is.

You have your opinions and I have mine. Can we agree to disagree?

*Prepares to get pelted by popcorn*
 
And I know exactly how big the area Fallout encompasses, but I think a Morrowind-esque travel system would show just how massive the area is. I don't think the FO world map ever did it full justice.
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It'd make a nice desert hike simulator, but not a fun game. Playing Morrowind, I had the feeling that some of the ash wastes were overly big and repetitive.
 
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