SPECIAL was balanced for TB, it doesn't work well in RT.
Mess up, yes. But because of incompetence, not conscious decision.Claw said:You can't seriously believe they won't mess with the skills, though. They love streamlining skills.Lumpy said:Yep. Although they might make it real time, they will most likely keep SPECIAL.Francis said:[*]Do you trust Bethesda to keep SPECIAL and not mess around with the fucking skills?
Well it all depends on whether or not its a CRPG or a true RPG, like Fallout 1 & 2.Arquebus said:beth migh make a good post apocalyptic game but will it be fallout?
baardhimself said:when I played Oblivion I didnt think to myself "what a great game" I thought "what the FUCK have they done to the Elder Scrolls series
Suffer said:baardhimself said:when I played Oblivion I didnt think to myself "what a great game" I thought "what the FUCK have they done to the Elder Scrolls series
You didn't think this at Morrowind?
Yes they can, since they love the series for what it originally was and the principles of that series, as opposed to the newer, shinier version of what the Elder Scrolls became with Morrowind.jedandjess said:No I didn't, Morrowind was in it's own right a deep game, immersive and you had a sense of total freedom right from the game's opening. The community may be split, but those who loved Arena and Daggerfall over Morrowind can't say that they are more hardcore or bigger fans of the series than those of us who loved Morrowind.
Wait, there are people who love Morrowind and hate Oblivion?jedandjess said:Oblivion on the other hand is a totally different proposition. Putting arrows on the screen and leveled monsters? My God, Beth have taken an incredible engine and so much design talent, set fire to it and pissed on it.
Sander said:Wait, there are people who love Morrowind and hate Oblivion?
Cool.
You mean like discussing what should happen with Beth's Fallout and comparing their previous work with what Fallout needs? Like we're doing now?X51 said:You know, with F3 being in pre-production, it's still going to be a couple years before we see anything regarding it. This gives me an idea; in the time between now and then, instead of moaning and complaining like a bunch of 13 year old wounded puppies, get off your critical fucking high-horse and do something about it!!!
E-mails get a standard form letter amounting to 'We're not telling you squat', the same would presumably go for letters. They have no message board, there are the TES boards, where Fallout talk of any kind is basically banned. Flooding boards is also not a good way to get positive attention. Calling people idiots isn't going to make them listen to what you have to say either.X51 said:Write letters, send emails, flood their message boards instead of huddling off into fringe groups crying and whining, having the same fucking arguments over and over again. I swear to god it gets fucking annoying and fucking old really damn quick.
Bethesda has basically begun production and have been working on it steadily for a while now. It's safe to assume it's out of pre-production.X51 said:You're so sure that Bethesda is gonna fuck it up, when you don't KNOW shit about what they're going to do with it. THEY don't even know what they're going to do with it.
How about you calm down and don't write some poor troll on a messageboard, huh? Calling people despair-whores and bitching about how we're all stupid while you're not even paying attention isn't going to get you much sympathy.X51 said:A lot can happen in 2 years, and you can make it happen. If you truly love Fallout, and are this afraid that bethesda is going to butcher it, then get to fucking work.
Or, you can sit here, having the same argument day in and day out, going on about what they're doing to TES when, despite popular opinion, TES is not Fallout, and Bethesda most likely knows that. Jesus, you guys are making it so i can't even stay in my basement to avoid idiots. And before you go on about "you don't have to be here," yes i do, because i love fallout, and i'm not going to see it destroyed, not even by you, the supposed 'fans.'
Carry on, despair-whores.
Fallout 3 will be officially announced this Fall. According to BethSoft, the alpha build is close to completion and may already be done, for all we know. Idiot.X51 said:You know, with F3 being in pre-production, it's still going to be a couple years before we see anything regarding it.
What, pray tell, is a fan community *supposed* to do besides bitch and moan?This gives me an idea; in the time between now and then, instead of moaning and complaining like a bunch of 13 year old wounded puppies, get off your critical fucking high-horse and do something about it!!!
Letters? What is this, 19th century?Write letters,
Did that. Multiple times. All I got were generic one-sentence responses that addressed nothing.send emails,
They don't have a message board. Moron.flood their message boards
We know more than you think, fool.You're so sure that Bethesda is gonna fuck it up, when you don't KNOW shit about what they're going to do with it.
Considering that they already have an alpha build - or will have it very soon - I find that difficult to believe.THEY don't even know what they're going to do with it.
This *is* our work.A lot can happen in 2 years, and you can make it happen. If you truly love Fallout, and are this afraid that bethesda is going to butcher it, then get to fucking work.
How wonderfully naive.Or, you can sit here, having the same argument day in and day out, going on about what they're doing to TES when, despite popular opinion, TES is not Fallout, and Bethesda most likely knows that.
Go away, troll. Your kind isn't welcome here.Jesus, you guys are making it so i can't even stay in my basement to avoid idiots. And before you go on about "you don't have to be here," yes i do, because i love fallout, and i'm not going to see it destroyed, not even by you, the supposed 'fans.'
Carry on, despair-whores.