Fallout 3 reviews round-up #11

20 hours in, I feel confident in saying this is a better game than Fallout 2. All of the weird, niggling animation problems, occasional strange NPC behavior, etc. that are distracting at the outset seem really minor once you grasp the scope of the game and become properly engrossed in it. I can understand reviews spending a lot of space detailing issues and then go on to give it a 10/10. I mean, yeah there are problems, but the overall game's good enough that I stop noticing or even caring about them.

If you're just putting around Megaton and you're unimpressed, give it some time. The game seems to get better the deeper you go in.
 
OMG OMG i can see it coming, this game its going to suck gentlemen hahahahahahahahahahahaha, today the kids dont care about choises and consecuenses just explosive action.
 
You know, makes you kind laugh.

I mean, we were worried about things like mini nuke and rock-it-launcer + teddybears.

Tip of the iceberg.
 
Blackfyre said:
Have you played the originals at all?

and that just there is the core problem why some on this site might lack the ability to form an objective view of FO3

No, the game isn't Fallout 1, i doubt Beth, ever wanted to make it as such nor do you need to know the originals to enjoy it or ciriticaly accept it. Its a spiritual successor of Fallout franchise and as such the game seams to be a huge success, on the road to be a GOY.

This just set off so many alarms I couldn't think straight, and was forced to register just to respond. :P (I'm a long time lurker, but first time poster.)

Admittedly, the FO name does make it harder to judge the game on its own merit. But beyond that you're 100% wrong here.

EDIT: Ok, you're probably also not wrong about the success and GOTY part.

Have you read any of the discussions with Beth about their goals with this game or their reason for naming it FO3? They've reiterated time and time again that FO1 was their model. And every time they're asked why they chose to name it as a numbered entry in the series (as opposed to "Fallout: Who's Your Daddy?" or WTF ever) they respond that they weren't just trying to use the Fallout world for a spinoff or anything, they wanted to make it an official sequel in the series, NOT just a spiritual successor.

This is why so many Fallout fans are upset. I've read many people here agree that they wouldn't have such a negative attitude about this game if it were just a spiritual successor. Instead, Beth has brazenly taken it upon themselves to call this game the next entry in the series, though it bears virtually no resemblance to the originals.

That said, I have not yet played FO3 and won't condemn it without trying it for myself. But, given my hatred for Bethesda after the way they turned TES into a bucket of bile, I really don't want hand my money over to them until I can try the game and find out if it's even worth playing.
 
Air Rifle said:
20 hours in, I feel confident in saying this is a better game than Fallout 2.

No way is it better than Fallout 2, the story is crap, the writing is crap, the world feels overpopulated, the fallout atmosphere is not existant (nuclear exploding cars anyone?).....
 
Zeld said:
You know, makes you kind laugh.

I mean, we were worried about things like mini nuke and rock-it-launcer + teddybears.

Tip of the iceberg.

Too bad you never know you strike it until your already under water.
 
AskWazzup said:
Air Rifle said:
20 hours in, I feel confident in saying this is a better game than Fallout 2.

No way is it better than Fallout 2, the story is crap, the writing is crap, the world feels overpopulated, the fallout atmosphere is not existant (nuclear exploding cars anyone?).....

The game is more engaging than Fallout 2. It's more atmospheric (oh gasp, EXPLODING CARS vs. cough, excessive lame self-referential humor, cough). I don't think either of the games are Oscar Caliber Screenplay material here, but I find myself infinitely more engrossed in the world of F3.

Also the idea that the writing in the original games is some sort of untouchable zenith is ridiculous. It was solid, but my fond memories of the games don't stem from those impeccable dialogue trees.
 
It's cool and all you like the game, cause in some respects it is likeable. But if Fallout 1 & 2's dialogue is an 8/10 then FO:3 dialuoge is a sad 2/10. Yes, IMO, its a huge downgrade. And as an old school roleplayer, I know dialogue is paramount to making a good roleplaying game.
 
oh gasp, EXPLODING CARS vs. cough, excessive lame self-referential humor, cough

What about stupid slap-stick humor vs. that "lame self-referential humor"?*

And like the only stupid thing in Fallout 3 are the exploding cars.


*I actually like the humor in Fallout 2, it just didn't fit the game.
 
Air Rifle said:
20 hours in, I feel confident in saying this is a better game than Fallout 2.

Well, for starters, both are different games, aren't they? It's pointless compare both games to see which is "better". The gameplay, for instance is totally different. You could say, at least that you enjoy fallout 3 more and that's ok, I guess.

As concerning the "better" thing... maybe you just have to wait when you complete the game and want to replay it and how many times to change the way you play.
 
The what the fucking shit horsecrap? Do you have any idea what you're talking about or just babbling stuff you overheard when the adults were talking?

Well...

Important info for the clueless: The weapons as well as all the items and everything else in the original Fallout games were rendered 3D models. They were not made by "making pictures" whatever the hell that means.
And considering the way they look (more details and more polygons than those in Fallout 3) I'm almost sure they took more time to create.

Pretty funny, though how the fact that 3D is easier to make was one of the excuses for which everybody was going 3D. Now we have to forgive incompetent developers because after all 3D is teh difficult.

I did not know that. Thank you for informing me in a calm and orderly way..

It seems Fallout 2 somewhat bested F3 in this too then. But they could spread the cost of modelling their icons over two games, while there has been only one Beth game yet . And since it compares well to Fallout 1 in that matter, one might argue that it has as many weapons as would be expected of a Fallout sequel.
 
Hey man, nothing personal with you.
I just see too many misinformed people here who suddenly decide Bethesda did a better job based on that misinformation and it pisses me off.
 
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