Fallout 4 Launch Trailer

The Dutch Ghost said:
Hassknecht said:
Too bad there's that pesky radiation that doesn't just go away after a few seconds...
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I actually at first got the idea that the team operating the gun would be caught in the blast of the detonation themselves, at least that would have been a quick death.
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Nah, the blast's not much of a problem. The Davy Crockett has a range of up to 4km, for a warhead of that small yield the blast is ok.
But the initial flash and residual radiation is still significant.
 
whirlingdervish said:
For anyone wondering why Androids don't really work in the established world of Fallout, here's a short list:

1: Every actual AI in Fallout 1 & 2 (and new vegas) was a giant stationary computer with a whole building attached to them and a power generation facility.

2: In the setting of fallout, the transistor did not enable the construction of miniaturized electronics until waaay later, shortly before the war.

3: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Divergence

This is why the vast majority of smaller robots you see popping around are only capable of speaking via a limited script: They never made a reasonable sized robotic brain analog so they are composed of very limited logic circuitry.

This is why the scientists of Big MT have brains attached to robot bodies instead of uploading themselves to robot brains, and many of the other cyborg style creatures exist (robodogs, robobrains, etc).
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Good thing they weren't built pre-War
 
Walpknut said:
Yeah Good thing they weren't built when scientists actually had access to government funding and mass production.... those jsut got inthe way....
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So the Enclave can develop reams of new armor and weapons but a seemingly very powerful Institute cannot? Again, you don't know what they're capable of.
 
The Enclave where a shadow government group that hoarded experimental technology before the war and even then they couldn't outfit all their members with Power Armor, nor did they have the numbers to take over the region without a virus.

I am going to give the Institute the benefit of the doubt, as I already have said, but I fully expect the explanation to be either non existent or stupid.
 
Walpknut said:
Yeah Good thing they weren't built when scientists actually had access to government funding and mass production facilities, not to mention tradingwith international entities.... those just got in the way....
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Like how Big MT. stopped innovating after funding and... Well. The world ended.
 
Battlecross said:
Walpknut said:
Yeah Good thing they weren't built when scientists actually had access to government funding and mass production.... those jsut got inthe way....
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So the Enclave can develop reams of new armor and weapons but a seemingly very powerful Institute cannot? Again, you don't know what they're capable of.
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Weapons and armour is not exactly comparable to a full-blown paradigm shift in robotics.
And if the Institute is so powerful, why does it waste its resources on building useless androids when it could, you know, SAVE THE WORLD? Or at least its immediate surroundings. The world is still a shithole, someone might want to fix that.
 
Big MT quickly devolved into a bunch of useless technology afer the war ended, they focused on Lobotomites and Roboscorpions, most of the technology you find is prewar inventions. it didnt help that all the Scientists basically got brainfucked into barely functioning insanity. I mean, Dr. O's biggest inventions by the point you get there is to break monitors and give you the parts inside....
 
I like how "200 years" is the rallying cry when they write stupid things that contradict the established canon, but when we wonder why "200 years" has little to no effect on the vast majority of things in the world, we're nitpicking.

Houses with the wallpaper still on them 200 years later?
People still eating prewar canned/packaged foods 200 years later?
Most of the steel structures are not rusted out piles of dust 200 years later within just miles of the salt filled Atlantic Ocean?

Naaaaah! That all makes sense and androids are now canon, just because.
 
whirlingdervish said:
Houses with the wallpaper still on them 200 years later?
People still eating prewar canned/packaged foods 200 years later?
Most of the steel structures are not rusted out piles of dust 200 years later within just miles of the salt filled Atlantic Ocean?

Naaaaah! That all makes sense and androids are now canon, just because.
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The food was a stretch even in the first game, but prewar structures are mostly rubble in the first two games (with extra dry climate to boot) and most structures are shacks build after the war.

This is actually interesting, were there any tall pre-war buildings in Fallout 1 and 2? (haven't played the game in years).
 
whirlingdervish said:
I like how "200 years" is the rallying cry when they write stupid things that contradict the established canon, but when we wonder why "200 years" has little to no effect on the vast majority of things in the world, we're nitpicking.

Houses with the wallpaper still on them 200 years later?
People still eating prewar canned/packaged foods 200 years later?
Most of the steel structures are not rusted out piles of dust 200 years later within just miles of the salt filled Atlantic Ocean?

Naaaaah! That all makes sense and androids are now canon, just because.
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Some things are conceits for gaming purposes with the world they want. If you want to leave some old buildings up guess what? The vast majority would have crumbled/burned down/whatever. If you want a world that doesn't look like total shit, you have to do it.
 
AskWazzup said:
whirlingdervish said:
Houses with the wallpaper still on them 200 years later?
People still eating prewar canned/packaged foods 200 years later?
Most of the steel structures are not rusted out piles of dust 200 years later within just miles of the salt filled Atlantic Ocean?

Naaaaah! That all makes sense and androids are now canon, just because.
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The food was a stretch even in the first game, but prewar structures are mostly rubble in the first two games (with extra dry climate to boot) and most structures are shacks build after the war.

This is actually interesting, were there any tall pre-war buildings in Fallout 1 and 2? (haven't played the game in years).
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No. Well, the Oil Rig, maybe. A few buildings in New Reno had more than one floor, but other than that it was ground floor all the way.
 
Soooo you only allow arguments if they actually suit your position, but when we use them, it's just a game/nit picking. And you wonder why no ones really taking you serious here ...
 
whirlingdervish said:
I like how "200 years" is the rallying cry when they write stupid things that contradict the established canon, but when we wonder why "200 years" has little to no effect on the vast majority of things in the world, we're nitpicking.

Houses with the wallpaper still on them 200 years later?
People still eating prewar canned/packaged foods 200 years later?
Most of the steel structures are not rusted out piles of dust 200 years later within just miles of the salt filled Atlantic Ocean?

Naaaaah! That all makes sense and androids are now canon, just because.
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Just because they inconsistently apply logic doesn't make it dumb in this case.
 
Battlecross said:
whirlingdervish said:
I like how "200 years" is the rallying cry when they write stupid things that contradict the established canon, but when we wonder why "200 years" has little to no effect on the vast majority of things in the world, we're nitpicking.

Houses with the wallpaper still on them 200 years later?
People still eating prewar canned/packaged foods 200 years later?
Most of the steel structures are not rusted out piles of dust 200 years later within just miles of the salt filled Atlantic Ocean?

Naaaaah! That all makes sense and androids are now canon, just because.
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Some things are conceits for gaming purposes with the world they want. If you want to leave some old buildings up guess what? The vast majority would have crumbled/burned down/whatever. If you want a world that doesn't look like total shit, you have to do it.
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You could... Y'know... Set it earlier
 
phipboy said:
sampson70 said:
Walpknut said:
It was someone supposedly spoiling the 2 endings of the game.
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Do you realize your sentence is a spoiler!? Damn! Go to another forum and talking about the damn game already!
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I can't tell if that's a joke or not. Saying that the game has 2 endings isn't a spoiler. Only if your definition of a spoiler is where someone says that something in the game is limited (and thus terrible) then yeah I guess so.
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How is it not a spoiler,if i haven't actually played the game. How would one know for sure about the number of endings? Whatever...I'll live.
 
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