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What's your thought on this latest lore rape?
Fallout 76 - BoS makes their appearance
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What's your thought on this latest lore rape?
Iprovidelittlepianos
Vault Senior Citizen
Okay, so Maxson got on the radio and recruited some soldiers over in Appalachia to join the Brotherhood of Steel, they all get wiped out, the Brotherhood sends an expedition to establish a chapter in Appalachia for whatever reason, and we can only assume they eventually get wiped out, then the Brotherhood sends ANOTHER expedition almost 200 years later...
Why does the brotherhood care so much about the east coast, and why do they never mention any of this in Fallout 1? A rhetorical question, of course.
Why does the brotherhood care so much about the east coast, and why do they never mention any of this in Fallout 1? A rhetorical question, of course.
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TorontoReign
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AD VICTORIAM. THAT OLD FALLOUT 1 SAYING.
Morgan_
Duckerz
West Virginia is cringe.
Canada is the biggest U.S. state. Just set a fallout in British Columbia ffs. It has Vancouver and a bunch of other great cities of varying size. The geography is some of the best in the world and you could could have some interesting new factions with the possibilty of some the NCR having scouted that far north.
Would there still be a large Asian population in Vancouver in Fallout's universe? What effects would that have hsd on pre war Canada? What new mutated creature could we see? Giant mutated Moose? I'd rather see that than any U.S. location, especially one in the south.
Canada is the biggest U.S. state. Just set a fallout in British Columbia ffs. It has Vancouver and a bunch of other great cities of varying size. The geography is some of the best in the world and you could could have some interesting new factions with the possibilty of some the NCR having scouted that far north.
Would there still be a large Asian population in Vancouver in Fallout's universe? What effects would that have hsd on pre war Canada? What new mutated creature could we see? Giant mutated Moose? I'd rather see that than any U.S. location, especially one in the south.
Atomic Postman
Vault Archives Overseer
Literally the one thing I was defending 76 on, the radio excuse and they doubled back into the most retarded explanation that in the original release they seething clarified on Twitter wasn't the case
Jesus fucking Christ
Jesus fucking Christ
Norzan
Half-way Through My Half-life
Oh noes, Bethesda retcons again and shoves BoS in places they have no business being in. That totally hasn't been happening for 12 years now.
My hope is that the release of this DLC is a complete disaster and i can laugh at it.
My hope is that the release of this DLC is a complete disaster and i can laugh at it.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Fallout is dead, no point in caring anymore. Just laugh at their missteps and avoid thinking about whenever they violate the franchise. Not like we can do anything about it anyway.
Gizmojunk
Antediluvian as Feck
I don't think they put much thought into naming it.
TheGM
The voice of reason
there has never been anything great about Canada ever.
Just setting aside how being there to begin with is stupid enough let me take a moment to put on my shouldn't really care about this but I do enough to write about it hat for a second. How exactly did they get wiped out? Hordes of Crispy Raiders? you literally skull fuck hordes of Crispy Raiders throughout the game. Well there were more then, so fucking what. They are apparently no more resilient than a normal person and armed with 38. caliber pipe guns. 38. has a problem killing normal people, it should be having major problems against a Man Tank armed with a Gatling Laser. Muh Scorchbeasts! Skull fuck them too. Scorch Beast Queen? that fucking thing has trains ran on it on a daily bases by dudes in Power Armor. Others not in it. I'm sick of this fuck-tarded gameplay narrative disconnect between Power Armor lore and in game behavior. OG FO and to a lesser extent New Vegas had to you wade through bullets that didn't crit so you could slap the shit out of entire gangs of Raiders. Now a Feral Ghoul punch can take like 25% of you health. And why the fuck do Ghouls all of a sudden punch as a hard as a 125mm HEAT round? Son of a bitch should turn to powder from his bones shattering on impact for punching a suit of T-51b. Eat all the dicks in the world Behtesda.
Atomic Postman
Vault Archives Overseer
Yeah people love to jack-off over the new version of Power Armor, but other than the animations and it being more like a vehicle, everything else about it is crap. It feels like crap to wear in combat and the constant ticking clock is lame as fuck. They are still a far cry from replicating the feeling of power of wearing PA in 1 and 2 where you would just tank shit, and that didn't need any fancy mech bullshit.
I also don't know why they wouldn't say this returning brigade wasn't just a squadron they sent out to investigate DC from WV which would be logical considering its right next door.
TheGM
The voice of reason
I just want bullets to ping off me, is that too much to ask for? There needs to be one of those stupid online campaigns calling to put the Power back in Power Armor dammit. While I'm at it, I think when wearing a Suit of PA I should be able to begin and end any conversation with the option to pop somebodies head like a grape. I'm sick of some shit fuck wearing a seat cushion as a jerkin trying to act tough with me as they are only armed with a broken dildo and a coffee table leg, I should be able to just collapse their noggin with zero effort.
But that is me wishing for RPG mechanics in games called rpgs, which we know is a waste of time and kind stupid at this point.
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Ugly Kid
Famed philosopher and cult leader
I think Canada cool
Alberta has like 9999999 dinosaurs!
I sort of liked that movie when I watched it some 15 years ago. The story sort of implies two wars, first a nuclear war that destroys the planet and then the "swords war" if I remember correctly. You don't get that much lore about the previous wars however. Maybe I should rewatch it.
Probably something Caesar's legion would say though: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Caesar's_Legion_terms
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TorontoReign
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THE LEGION WAS THE BOS THE WHOLE TIME. THE LEGION EXISTED BEFORE CAESAR WAS BORN. AD VICTORIAM. LONG LIVE THE LEGION.
As I mentioned in another thread a few months ago when I read up on the news of this upcoming expansion; the BOS could not bother with sending an expedition to the Glow which they knew contained advanced technology.
Only a few renegade Paladins went there and the BOS never followed up on them other than sending wannabe recruits there.
And now it is retconned that the BOS send not one but two expeditions West, one being at a time when they were at their weakest.
I really hated the nonsense of Maxson contacting a fellow officer across the nation to start a chapter of the BOS there, complete with the same iconography.
I have the feeling that the Bethesda writers want to make out as if Maxson was this highly charismatic officer in the armed forces, almost like a Big Boss most of the lower ranking forces and some officers would side behind in an instant.
He wasn't. He was just some random schmuck considered high rated enough to be assigned to Mariposa base, and even there he was not the highest ranking officer until his superior committed suicide (I think).
And again the BOS are made out as some army that seeks to reclaim the wasteland for humans and peaceful mutants while driving out raiders, feral mutants, Super Mutants and so on.
They aren't. They are not anything like the NCR or any other post war government that seeks to rebuild the world.
Only a few renegade Paladins went there and the BOS never followed up on them other than sending wannabe recruits there.
And now it is retconned that the BOS send not one but two expeditions West, one being at a time when they were at their weakest.
I really hated the nonsense of Maxson contacting a fellow officer across the nation to start a chapter of the BOS there, complete with the same iconography.
I have the feeling that the Bethesda writers want to make out as if Maxson was this highly charismatic officer in the armed forces, almost like a Big Boss most of the lower ranking forces and some officers would side behind in an instant.
He wasn't. He was just some random schmuck considered high rated enough to be assigned to Mariposa base, and even there he was not the highest ranking officer until his superior committed suicide (I think).
And again the BOS are made out as some army that seeks to reclaim the wasteland for humans and peaceful mutants while driving out raiders, feral mutants, Super Mutants and so on.
They aren't. They are not anything like the NCR or any other post war government that seeks to rebuild the world.
Lidku
Wasteland Sniper
I can't stand Bethesda anymore. The desecration after desecration digs in under my skin. I can't wait for this stupid hackjob company to go out of business with their continuous blunders.
TheGM
The voice of reason
Boy are you in for the wait of waits.
Eumesmopo
Learned to love the bomb
yo dawg, I heard you liked retcons...
Eumesmopo
Learned to love the bomb
Anyways. I'm glad that at least Cyberpunk 2077 is coming out in just two weeks from now. At least I'm going to have an actually good RPG to play. Can put my rope aside and wait a few weeks more before I kill myself.