Fallout: New Vegas Launch Day Reviews
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TheUnwashed said:
Thanks.
I have found someone who is doing that on canardpc.com. I'll give that to BN when it'll be finished.
Sobboth said:
It's not a review. The real review arrived the 1st november. It's just his advice he gave to those who can't wait.
(And knowing O. Boulon, It'll be a huge review (8 pages I think))
TheUnwashed
First time out of the vault
Linvite said:
SmartCheetah
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Agreed.Brother None said:
Kotor 2 is the best example. Very good story + writing but you had to play with hordes of bugs around ye'.
Of course it was because they had to release it "RIGHT NOW" but oh well - It wasn't their only failure at this level... Maybe they should hire more testers? >.>
The fact is they're not best at programming. But it's pretty young developer studio without much experience so I can wait for patches fanpatches, and fanfanpatches.
Some dude said:
Exploding heads and flying limbs?
There was nothing interesting about it's predecessor.
100LBSofDogmeat
It Wandered In From the Wastes
SmartCheetah said:
Some people are just horribly unlucky? I never really have any glitches or problems with my computer games, including KOTOR 2 and AP. I've had one or two that just refuse to start up, but that's about it. Oh, and having some older games work on newer systems. But I am always amused and amazed by people's horrendous luck with these things.
Stanislao Moulinsky
Vault Fossil
Terrible reviews, but I guess it was to be expected. Any info on the stability of the PS3 version?
How could I hope to evaluate the worth of Fallout 2, a full-price game that's practically identical, both graphically and mechanically, to another game that was released years ago?
Any info on the stability of the PS3 version?Lazlo said:
How could I hope to evaluate the worth of Fallout 2, a full-price game that's practically identical, both graphically and mechanically, to another game that was released years ago?
Deelron
First time out of the vault
Eternal said:
G4's review also rips on the writing "That said, the quality of the writing in New Vegas – which is to say, the degree to which these stories will compel you as you play through them – is only a scant shadow of what players have come to expect from Fallout 3."
I almost fell out of my chair laughing.
Zeronet said:I died a little inside.
How could you not? I'm not a blind hater of Fallout 3. There were aspects of it I loved. However to say anything else about the writing/story except it being - at best - mediocre, is either a lie or a revealing character flaw of the reviewer. I choose the latter. Completely voids the review of any worth.
SmartCheetah said:
Obsidian has a ridiculous amount of experience. What they don't have in surplus like other developer studios is money, people, and power. The first is why they take whatever work they can get, making sequels and such for other developers' games. The second is why the games are so buggy. The third is why they get bullied around by bigger publishers to release games early.
Combine the three, and you can easily see if that every Obsidian game was given another 3 months for the sole purpose of bug squashing that their reputation wouldn't be marred.
Obsidian is a highly talented and experienced but smaller developer that attempts to do too much in its games with too few people to test things properly and also lacks the reputation and wallet that allows more well known developers like BioWare to tell people like LucasArts and Atari to fuck off until they finish making their game.
LionXavier
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Hah! it's funny to see the difference between Beth's PR machine working at full potential and just working at half-potentialBrother None said:
Was the same way with Fallout 3 and Oblivion. At the very least, it nipped load times in the ass.cogar66 said:
Also, I seriously am wondering how Fallout 3's story was "deep" to G4. "oh noes dad is gone. oh noes, he's trapped in a rip-off of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream! oh yays I found him! oh noes, he killed himself! oh noes, the enclave is doing the same thing they did last game! oh noes, I am captured! oh yay, I killed them all! oh noes, I must sacrifice myself or another and make an arbitrary good or evil decision! [Insert repetitive lecture on the Book of Revelations in between all of these]" G4 also did this to Metro 2033. I find them excessively stupid.
cogar66 said:
On that note, with FO3 I noticed that the game would lock up severely when there wasn't very much HD space left on the console. My 360 is one of the 20 gig varieties, and ultimately when one of my FO3 save games got to about 10-20mb, just loading it up would cause massive, unplayable slowdown when the HD only had a few gigs left.
I'm not sure how it works or whether it's a direct consequence, but freeing up HD space helped out.
So yes, with Xbox 360 owners I agree with installing onto the HD and freeing up several gigs if you can spare it for best performance
TailSwallower
First time out of the vault
I think the guy from Joystiq has no idea what he's talking about in regards to the music. I'm sure someone at Obsidian has already said that there are more songs in New Vegas than there were in F3, and the Joystiq guy claims to have never been able to get sick of the music in F3. What the fuck?
I wanted to have the radio playing in Fallout 3 to add to the atmosphere, but after about 3 hours I was going crazy from hearing the same 5 songs over and over again (not to mention the idiotic banter of Three Dog).
I also wonder if any of these reviewers on 360 thought to clear the memory cache seeing as how many of them are complaining about frame rate drops. Surely they must have remembered that the Engine had exactly the same issues in both Oblivion and F3? It's something that Obsidian and Bethesda should have taken the time to address (well, really, Bethesda should have sorted it out before releasing Oblivion) but it seems to me that a professional games reviewer should know enough to be able to clear their own cache and also advise their readers that they may need to do the same.
But, between Bethesda's obviously-buggy engine and Obsidian's history of releasing horribly-bugged games, it's good to see that nobody is comparing NV to the glitch-fest that was Alpha Protocol (a brilliantly written and fun to play glitch-fest, but a glitch-fest nonetheless).
Anyway, still have to wait until Friday, but I'm still very excited.
I wanted to have the radio playing in Fallout 3 to add to the atmosphere, but after about 3 hours I was going crazy from hearing the same 5 songs over and over again (not to mention the idiotic banter of Three Dog).
I also wonder if any of these reviewers on 360 thought to clear the memory cache seeing as how many of them are complaining about frame rate drops. Surely they must have remembered that the Engine had exactly the same issues in both Oblivion and F3? It's something that Obsidian and Bethesda should have taken the time to address (well, really, Bethesda should have sorted it out before releasing Oblivion) but it seems to me that a professional games reviewer should know enough to be able to clear their own cache and also advise their readers that they may need to do the same.
But, between Bethesda's obviously-buggy engine and Obsidian's history of releasing horribly-bugged games, it's good to see that nobody is comparing NV to the glitch-fest that was Alpha Protocol (a brilliantly written and fun to play glitch-fest, but a glitch-fest nonetheless).
Anyway, still have to wait until Friday, but I'm still very excited.
UncannyGarlic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Nothing like stating that you felt like you played the game wrong in order to review it and giving the impression that it's normal in how you review games.GamePro said:
All of the bugs sound identical to ones that shipped with Fallout 3.willooi said:The unanimous complaints about bugs doesn't sound too good, but hey, it wouldn't really be a Fallout game if it didn't ship with any, eh ehBut no, they'll get patched and the main thing is that these reviews so far at least sound very positive and impressed with the writing and the content.
I'm gonna go watch a movie as I wait for the enemies to finish moving... :p Oh I love Wizardry 8 but damn is it slow.Brother None said:
It's amusing because almost every review is saying that it's better than Fallout 3 and giving it a lower score. How predictable they are.Brother None said:AtomicSabotage said:Well it looks like review scores are averaging into the mid to high 80% range.
That's excellent!
Except that that is a pretty low score.
Well, not for a sequelspansion like New Vegas I guess. But if you're not scoring in the "MetaCritic 90s" you're anything but great. Any game can score in the 80s.
There are 75 games for the PS3 alone with a score of 86+ on Metacritic, be sure to hit that "All time" button. There are 21 games for the PS3 with a score of 85. All you really need to look at to see how balanced game reviews are is how metacritic had to shift their scale towards the top due to game publications giving markedly higher scores than reviews for any other media they cover. For everything but games a 61+ indicates generally favorable, with 40-60 being mixed, and 39- being generally unfavorable. With games it's 75+ and 50+.AtomicSabotage said:
Games
75+ _ 2606 _ 34.9% - Favorable cutoff
61-74 _ 2727 _ 36.5%
50-60 _ 1329 _ 17.8% - Mixed cutoff
40-49 _ 509 _ 6.8%
39- _ 296 _ 4.0%
Total 7467
Movies
75+ _ 1008 _ 15.5%
61-74 _ 1885 _ 29.0% - Favorable cutoff
50-60 _ 1362 _ 21.0%
40-49 _ 1055 _ 16.3% - Mixed cutoff
39- _ 1180 _ 18.2%
Total 6490
Of course that ignores multiplatform games so maybe with adjustments they are somewhat close but when only 10.8% of games use half of your scale, that half is pretty pointless and wasted. You then have 35% of games clustered in a 25 point range, makes it awfully hard to differentiate between how good they are compared to each other.
Did you really expect more? G4 is trash and useless for reviews. Back in the day of Tech TV you at least had Judgement Day which gave you two different perspectives on games and the hosts were the ones who actually wrote the reviews (I presume).Deelron said:
I'm pretty sure that they've had leadership/organizational/prioritization issues in the past which has been a major contributing factor to their games being riddled with bugs. They have a track record of taking on too much for the time limit they are given, resulting in many the problems that their games have.Mapex said: