Fat kid goes MMA on a Bully

DarkCorp said:
Second, I doubt a bully would give his victim free shots to the face and gut without immediate retaliation.
Why not? A bully, say a bigger bully, would give the scrawny small kid a few free shots, knowing that the small kid can't harm him and to cause the small kid further humiliation when he decks the small kid with one move.

Not saying that is what happened here, but many of you seem to have some closed minded ideas as to what a bully can do and does.
 
But the little guy did some playful blows to the big ones body. A significantly smaller victim never plays like that with its bully.
He clearly feels superior and does not expect a response.
 
Verevoof

Ok, bullies will do that. But, in that scenario, the victim is either too scared to fight back or completely snaps.

As Hass said, Ritchard was clearly toying with Casey which does not fit with the scenario above.
 
I do like how these stories are always spread with assumptions though. You guys remember Amber Lamps? Weren't so funny when we found out it wasn't the black guy provoking the old man but that the old man was an overly agressive psycho, was it? I know images make for stories but don't just assume.

Also man all y'all got some personal ties with this bullying thing. Am I the only one who never got bullied? Hell I got called into the prince's office once for bullying. But it was harmless, I just meant it as a joke, sir.
 
Brother None said:
I do like how these stories are always spread with assumptions though. You guys remember Amber Lamps? Weren't so funny when we found out it wasn't the black guy provoking the old man but that the old man was an overly agressive psycho, was it? I know images make for stories but don't just assume.

Also man all y'all got some personal ties with this bullying thing. Am I the only one who never got bullied? Hell I got called into the prince's office once for bullying. But it was harmless, I just meant it as a joke, sir.

I was bullied in a pm earlier today, I'll be okay though... :cry:
 
Brother None said:
Am I the only one who never got bullied?
I was never really bullied, I can only think of two instances and both were just verbal attempts and never took. And there was one moment when I was the bully, again, verbal. If it is your desire to found out more, then read on Reader.

The first incidence occurred on the second day of my first year in middle school. I and another girl were sent to the "guidance" office, because I had called the girl a "bitch," rightfully so, since she wouldn't stop saying much worse things to me about me (I said, "How about you stop being a bitch," and she immediately got up and said "I'm telling!" Ha! What a hoot!). From that day on, she had the idea that we were somehow friends for the rest of our 3 year middle school sentence. Side story: It was from her that I learned the meaning, and existence, of "dildo," and it wasn't until high school (we went to different high schools) that I found out from others that she "came out of the closet." Which then made me wonder if she was attracted to me, but only for a second since I could not be bothered with such silly notions.

The second was again in middle school. This boy would say what he thought to be hurtful things to me, but I said something back (I forget what), and he never spoke to me again.

For Voof as Bully, we'll have to travel further back in time. It was in elementary school that, for one recess session, I took on such a role. I don't even know why I did it, but I did. The gist of the story is that a friend of mine was just rejected by group of girls that she had been a part of. I had no connection to the group. All day my friend kept telling me how much she dislikes her former group, how mean they are, and was basically making fun of their ringleader behind their backs. To cheer up my friend, I made up a short jingle of a defamatory nature about the leader, and my friend thought it was hilarious. So at recess, after listening to even more of my friend's complaining grief, I decided to go up to the group and sing the jingle. Again, no idea why I did. I can still see my friend's face, shaking her head "No" as I approached the group with such dumb indifference. I sang it, the leader cried, I walked back to my friend expecting her not to be... hmm... what's the word... shocked at what I had just done. It was only until I registered my friend's negative reaction that I felt bad. Then one the group members came up to me and my friend, angrily informing me of the wrong I had just done. So, I went back to the group, she was still crying with her friends comforting her, and I apologized. Felt like crap for awhile after that. Guilt. I suppose it is good to know that I'm not a sort of sociopath.

Congratulations, you read the whole thing. I have nothing to offer you as a reward, but I'll take real good care of your time that you have given me. Real good care...
 
Brother None said:
Hell I got called into the prince's office once for bullying. But it was harmless, I just meant it as a joke, sir.

:o But that's the worst kind of bullying! You can't even bodyslam someone if they're so casual.
 
I made fun of the smelly kid once but really we were friends or so I thought. It was like "Hey you smell like pee all the time! Oh no! Why are you crying!"
 
Instilling a sense of guilt in a child is the only way to prevent them from being a bully really, isn't it? I guess this would be a consequence of properly administered parental admonishment/punishment earlier on. There's really no better preventative measure than having a kid feel like shit for being a bully (as opposed to feeling empowered), or better guarantee that he won't do it again.

I wasn't bullied myself but I was a straight A student and once I hit puberty my musculature went bananas for some reason (testosterone probably, which is probably also why I started balding prematurely) so I was in prime position to be a bully. What stopped me though was not fear of punishment - I simply felt like shit when I did it.
 
Brother None said:
I do like how these stories are always spread with assumptions though. You guys remember Amber Lamps? Weren't so funny when we found out it wasn't the black guy provoking the old man but that the old man was an overly agressive psycho, was it?

I remember the old man being homeless, and not shying away from an occasional fight, but that didn't make him wrong in that particular situation.
 
Brother None said:
I do like how these stories are always spread with assumptions though. You guys remember Amber Lamps? Weren't so funny when we found out it wasn't the black guy provoking the old man but that the old man was an overly agressive psycho, was it?

Revisionist history much? The old man was repeatedly baited by the punk dumbass and his buddies were taping it hoping for an old man asswhupping.
 
His point stands regardless, you can't just watch two minutes and know definitively who the bully and who the victim is.

Context, it's missing here.

But yeah, there's obviously a lot of people who are emotionally invested in watching who they deem to be a bully get his comeuppance.

Some sort of vicarious thrill for the inner bully victim of yore I reckon.

Myself, I was bully-proof. Daily beatings by jock older brothers ensured that I was impervious to my own peers. Good thing that. Your older siblings didn't prep you for bully defense?

I did get hazed a lot in playing sports up through uni, but that's different and somewhat voluntary.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
Myself, I was bully-proof. Daily beatings by jock older brothers ensured that I was impervious to my own peers. Good thing that. Your older siblings didn't prep you for bully defense?

I'm one of five brothers. When we moved to a new town, we asked all around the neighborhood who the bully was and then all five of us went and beat the shit out of him and his crony.

They decided they didn't want to fuck with any of us.
 
DammitBoy said:
Revisionist history much? The old man was repeatedly baited by the punk dumbass and his buddies were taping it hoping for an old man asswhupping.

The video was taped by a college student. We don't know if he was repeatedly baited because the video comes halfway in. We do known now he has a history of violence and, uh, being crazy. He has been on contact with police before, we don't know if the black gentleman has been.

Thanks for proving my point though. With all these meme videos people make assumptions that might be right but are usually based on their own lives more than what they see. We assume this is a bullied kid finally fighting back. We assume Epic Beard Man responds to being baited and beleaguered by (a group of) black men because that fits into our personal context more than him being a crazy man looking for a fight.

So it goes. You might be right. You might be wrong. One thing that's odd about it is people getting emotionally invested either way.
 
Brother None said:
Thanks for proving my point though. With all these meme videos people make assumptions that might be right but are usually based on their own lives more than what they see. We assume this is a bullied kid finally fighting back. We assume Epic Beard Man responds to being baited and beleaguered by (a group of) black men because that fits into our personal context more than him being a crazy man looking for a fight.

So it goes. You might be right. You might be wrong. One thing that's odd about it is people getting emotionally invested either way.

That is a pretty huge problem with the media and news coverage today
 
Brother None said:
DammitBoy said:
Revisionist history much? The old man was repeatedly baited by the punk dumbass and his buddies were taping it hoping for an old man asswhupping.

The video was taped by a college student. We don't know if he was repeatedly baited because the video comes halfway in.

Maybe you should watch the unedited full length version?

I'm not 'emotionally vested', that video was just plain funny. The old guy obviously had mental issues as obvious as the baiting that took place. It was set-up looking for a reaction. Still funny though.
 
DammitBoy said:
Maybe you should watch the unedited full length version?

Why do you lie? This is the only video of it. Again, the person holding the camera does not know the black man. The video starts with the white man starting the verbal confrontation. The black man appears to be alone. Everything you said following "revisionist history much" was an outright lie, looking to, ahem, "color" facts the way you like em.
 
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