Favorite CONSOLE Rpgs

Brother None said:
I don't get this thread. What the heck is a "console RPG"? Do you just mean Japanese RPG? If so, say so.

/doesn't play jRPGs
Given his listing of Shadowrun for the SNES, I think not. I think he merely means RPGs for consoles rather than those for PC. It's not as if there weren't port of PC RPGs to consoles even back then and now it goes both ways. Heck, even JRPGs sporadically splash onto the PC. It's a pretty useless distinction in my mind as all it does is remove all (or some, depending on how you divide it) PC games from the mix and talk about all genres of RPGs for any console.
 
I much prefer to play console games on a PC through an emulator…not only do they look better, but I can save the game at any stage I want, etc. I will admit some games are easier to play with the proper controller compared to the keyboard, but I can live with the keyboard orgy. The sad facts are many of these games are not easily available anymore, nor the original consoles. But I never played on a console before the PS1, and the reality is that many of the greatest games came out before 1995.
 
Final Fantasy 3 (6 in Japan), Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy Tactics, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Chross, Super Mario RPG, Breath of Fire 3.

There are a number of other great rpgs, but these are the ones I played the most. I played Shadow Run a bit as well, although not as much as the others. I'd like to have another go at it some time.
 
UncannyGarlic said:
Chrono Cross is a bloody mess. The design goal of the game was to make a game with 64 characters which they ended up having to reduce to 45 because they ran out of time. They sacrificed character depth (if I remember right, only Kid, Serge, and Harle have more than 1 section that delves into their character) and uniqueness (a lot of spells/skills are shared) in order to do so. This includes sacrificing Magus as a character as they knew they didn't have enough time for his back story (he was changed to Guile). Then there's the experience system which limits how many levels you can gain at any point, with a use it or loose it system.

Great story, combat, and massive variety in who you can bring along in your party, multiple endings and new game +... with limited character development. Wooh. It's one flaw, and a very minor one when you're dealing with that many characters. Square games typically have very little character development outside of the main character/love interest(s), but that doesn't make them any less awesome.


.Pixote. said:
I much prefer to play console games on a PC through an emulator…not only do they look better, but I can save the game at any stage I want, etc. I will admit some games are easier to play with the proper controller compared to the keyboard, but I can live with the keyboard orgy. The sad facts are many of these games are not easily available anymore, nor the original consoles. But I never played on a console before the PS1, and the reality is that many of the greatest games came out before 1995.

Trying to play console games with a keyboard sucks. Go get a Cordless Rumblepad 2 and you'll never look back. Playing N64/PSX games with a proper controller that has analog sticks/rumble completes the experience.
 
I haven't really played many console RPGs. But Shadowrun for the SNES seems to get a good reception from you guys here. How is it?

I might buy a copy off eBay or something.
 
I think Vagrant Story was one of the best RPG ever for the PS1…it is certainly one of the most challenging and beautiful. I could never complete it…:look:

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.Pixote. said:
I think Vagrant Story was one of the best RPG ever for the PS1…it is certainly one of the most challenging and beautiful. I could never complete it…:look:
Neither could I. The checkpoints are just too far away from each other. I was frustrated of playing like an hour searching for the next save point, and I die before because of some stupid enemy.
 
The Genesis had some nice ones.

D&D: Warriors of the Eternal Sun
Shadowrun
Sword of Vermilian
Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday

I also played Star Control on the Genesis, for the first time.

Other console RPG favorites of mine:

Vagrant Story
Skies of Arcadia


And, as much as most on this board are going to want to bash the next choices, the multiplatform Xbox & Xbox360 RPGs, particularly from Bioware & Bethesda (Morrowind/KOTOR/JadeEMpire/Oblivion/Mass Effect/Fallout/Dragon Age) are the RPGs I've enjoyed on consoles most since the games in my list above.
 
Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude said:
Great story, combat, and massive variety in who you can bring along in your party, multiple endings and new game +... with limited character development. Wooh. It's one flaw, and a very minor one when you're dealing with that many characters. Square games typically have very little character development outside of the main character/love interest(s), but that doesn't make them any less awesome.
I liked the main plot but the other character's plots were all over the place in quallity. That said, many were detatched from the main plot and none really went anywhere. As for Square normally ignoring all but the two protagonists, I disagree. They usually have at least a couple points per character where their background comes to the forefront in quests and more in dialogue. Chrono Cross merely offers a single quest, which is really a character earning quest, and then does nothing with the character. Sure they talk in plot portions of the game but they are built up to no more than a shell of a personallity.

The combat was pretty good (nothing spectacular), though not as good as Chrono Trigger (among others) and the amount of overlap between characters defeated any reason to have so many. They could have had a quarter of the characters and had each be far more interesting and unique to play with. The combination large number of characters and leveling system made the amount of grinding too great to be enjoyable for me as I had to actually grind up a character if I ever wanted to use them. Had the game had a different leveling system it would been much better, for infact, had each time you gained a star your characters gained the levels to be at the right power level instead of lost them, it would have had a quite good system. Also the encounters were better than in some games but still didn't feel as handcrafted and hand placed as Chrono Trigger.

All in all, less characters with more depth and individuality (gameplay-wise)is better than many characters with little depth and individuality. The only games which effectively skirt this are TRPGs, which tend to have a fair number of characters who are well characterized through the plot and a number of grunts with no plot, and Valkyrie Profile 2, which did essentially the same thing.

.Pixote. said:
I much prefer to play console games on a PC through an emulator…not only do they look better, but I can save the game at any stage I want, etc. I will admit some games are easier to play with the proper controller compared to the keyboard, but I can live with the keyboard orgy. The sad facts are many of these games are not easily available anymore, nor the original consoles. But I never played on a console before the PS1, and the reality is that many of the greatest games came out before 1995.
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Actually console games tend to look better on TVs, though they tend to look better on CRTs than LCDs. The NES certainly looks better on my computer than it does on my LCD TV but my Genesis and beyond are the otherway around and I prefer using the proper gamepad.

I'm with Phil though, buy a controller or fight stick for your PC, keyboard is no way to play. I'm thinking of buying a Dualshock 3 to replace my logitech controller but since the d-pad is the main thing I hate, I'd really like to find a controller with a good, oldschool d-pad.

.Pixote. said:
I think Vagrant Story was one of the best RPG ever for the PS1…it is certainly one of the most challenging and beautiful. I could never complete it…:look:
Yeah I love that game, what I've played of it at least. Certainly one of my favorite ARPGs.
 
For anyone looking for an amazing RPG on the Playstation 3, hands down grab Demon's Souls.

One of the best recent console RPGs you can get.
 
Console RPGs? 16-bit era commands this one. I'll name a few of my favourites:

I highly recommend Shadowrun, both for SNES and Genesis.The latter having more sandbox and PNP elements, I prefer it. Although the graphics, sound and atmosphere of the SNES version compensate its lack of things to do outside of the main plot.

The setting of the Front Mission series is very interesting, making for good backstory. FM1 was a great TRPG regarding equipment, story and character progressing. There was another Front Mission for the SNES: Front Mission Gun Hazard, interesting concept: now a platformer, much like Metal Warriors, however retaining some backstory and RPG elements. Great graphics too, including lighting effects and beautiful architecture.

Rudora no Hihou for the SNES is another on my top list: world crisis backstory related to creation, and a magic system in which you type a word and according to the combination of syllabes it forms a spell of given power, element and mana cost. Worth a try.
 
.Pixote. said:
I think Vagrant Story was one of the best RPG ever for the PS1…it is certainly one of the most challenging and beautiful. I could never complete it…:look:

I like how it takes place in the Final Fantasy Tactics universe but most people missed that. :P

Apart from Grandia, Skies of Arcadia and Phantasy Star (oh and the mandatory FF ones) I haven't played many console RPGs.

Bomberman Tournament for the GBA was a pretty snazzy RPG... well it was Bomberman with an inventory, power up screen and lite story so pretty much an RPG.
 
I consider it more an action adventure but another one on the SNES I liked was Terranigma.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/terranigma

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Such messages make me sad... and want to kill the stupid gamer who proposed this and display his body in a gory way as an example to the others.

Perhaps the smell of their own dead ones will drive them away.
 
UncannyGarlic said:
Actually console games tend to look better on TVs, though they tend to look better on CRTs than LCDs. The NES certainly looks better on my computer than it does on my LCD TV but my Genesis and beyond are the otherway around and I prefer using the proper gamepad.

I’ve been stuck with my PC that is 10 years old, and the monitor, which is a flat screen LG CRT model - which has a pretty nice picture, so I’ve never actually played a game on a LCD monitor…apart from the scale what am missing, and yes the most recent/modern game I have played is Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines and Half Life 2, and that’s going back to 2004. But I have no need or desire to play recent games because there are literally hundreds of old games waiting to be played and enjoyed. I only play Zelda – A link to the Past about a year ago…20 years after its release, and what a wonderful game…time doesn’t seem to affect great games like that. :wink:

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You playing on the original SNES? Shit, mine must be in some damned orphanage.

I thought everyone just played these games with emulators nowadays. I mean, things like those neat filter screen effects, increased resolution, and most importantly save-states.

Curious fact, I saw a kid over here asking for MK3 for the Genesis the other day. :shock:
 
Dario ff said:
You playing on the original SNES? Shit, mine must be in some damned orphanage.

I thought everyone just played these games with emulators nowadays. I mean, things like those neat filter screen effects, increased resolution, and most importantly save-states.
Well I have a Super NES and I wanted the cartridge so I thought why not? My SNES games library is not really that big right now.
 
.Pixote. said:
I think Vagrant Story was one of the best RPG ever for the PS1…it is certainly one of the most challenging and beautiful. I could never complete it…:look:
Once you get a handle on the forging system, it's not that difficult. Also, you should go back and complete it. Cheat if you want, I don't care. I'd say the game has one of the best endings ever (up there with Torment and Fallout).

I like the rest of Matsuno's games, FF Tactics, FF XII, Ogre Battle, and Tactics Ogre are all quite fun.

Tales of Destiny (PS2) has a really solid battle system, basically making it a more RPG-heavy Guardian Heroes.

Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song is interesting for its Western influences, and a pretty neat turn-based battle system.

I also like the original Final Fantasy... for some reason. The spell system means there's still some level of strategic planning left in the game, but otherwise it's the archetypal JRPG.
 
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