First Impression of Fallout 4

Mr Fish said:
So I'm reading through this fine piece of writing by Jim Fucking Sterling-San
And here's a quote of what I think speaks volumes about the way he looks at games:
"The phrase “dumbed down” is coming up a lot in these. Some of us prefer the term “streamlined” but, y’know, different strokes!"

Yeah it doesn't fucking matter what term you prefer Jimmy-o, dumbed down and streamlined are two completely different things and trying to negate any criticism of a game being dumbed down by saying it was "streamlined" just goes to show you don't have any arguments to counter the criticism with.
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The fat cuck thinks that the fact that you can "romance" multiple partners in Fallout 4 is a statement on polyamory and not just Bethesda not wanting to do something so henious as force players to make a choice outside the end-game.
 
Played a bit more, and after one quest (which I mostly spent hiding behind him and his immensely tough Power Armored behind while he gunned down hordes of robots) the BoS Paladin I mentionned ealier gives me his unique laser rifle and offers that I join the BoS. I am level 9 and my best weapon is a hunting rifle. Jeez, recruitment standards have fallen that low already?

I also already possess 3 suits of Power Armor myself, one off the very first quest, one just found in the wilds close to a fusion core, and a third looted off a Raider that died way too easily and also had a Fat Man, because why the hell not.

And I'm already the uncontested General of the Minutemen. Which I am promptly going to ignore because the job that comes with the title apparently means building freaking beds for everyone and their mother in the Wasteland, and fuck that noise.

I'm not sure if whoever designed this game knows the meaning of the words ''pacing'' and ''progression''.
 
No there's no pacing. Fallout 4 is one giant Wild Wasteland Perk.

The reason why there's so many power armors is that apparently they are coveted by many and all. I just got attacked inside my town by a villainous radroach and since I chose to run away rather than fight the beast, brave Sturges took it upon him to rid the world of it.

By swiftly picking up MY GODDAMN POWER ARMOR. :shock:

Yes, he got out after the fight but WTF? It's mine. I found it (more or less) and brought it there. Take your filthy hands off my property.

Now you had to reenter it and bring it back to the station to modify it.
 
Ilosar said:
Played a bit more, and after one quest (which I mostly spent hiding behind him and his immensely tough Power Armored behind while he gunned down hordes of robots) the BoS Paladin I mentionned ealier gives me his unique laser rifle and offers that I join the BoS. I am level 9 and my best weapon is a hunting rifle. Jeez, recruitment standards have fallen that low already?

I also already possess 3 suits of Power Armor myself, one off the very first quest, one just found in the wilds close to a fusion core, and a third looted off a Raider that died way too easily and also had a Fat Man, because why the hell not.

And I'm already the uncontested General of the Minutemen. Which I am promptly going to ignore because the job that comes with the title apparently means building freaking beds for everyone and their mother in the Wasteland, and fuck that noise.

I'm not sure if whoever designed this game knows the meaning of the words ''pacing'' and ''progression''.
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Are you playing on Easy? That particular Raider which I'm guessing is the same that I fought, took forever to defeat. Before I knew he was there I got nuked. Reloaded and tried sneaking, destroyed me. Third time used Codsworth to distract the 6 or so raiders and it took half of my ammo to down the big guy.

Also the pacing is up to the player, and the first power armor is just a straight up tutorial for it basically.
 
Battlecross said:
Ilosar said:
Played a bit more, and after one quest (which I mostly spent hiding behind him and his immensely tough Power Armored behind while he gunned down hordes of robots) the BoS Paladin I mentionned ealier gives me his unique laser rifle and offers that I join the BoS. I am level 9 and my best weapon is a hunting rifle. Jeez, recruitment standards have fallen that low already?

I also already possess 3 suits of Power Armor myself, one off the very first quest, one just found in the wilds close to a fusion core, and a third looted off a Raider that died way too easily and also had a Fat Man, because why the hell not.

And I'm already the uncontested General of the Minutemen. Which I am promptly going to ignore because the job that comes with the title apparently means building freaking beds for everyone and their mother in the Wasteland, and fuck that noise.

I'm not sure if whoever designed this game knows the meaning of the words ''pacing'' and ''progression''.
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Are you playing on Easy? That particular Raider which I'm guessing is the same that I fought, took forever to defeat. Before I knew he was there I got nuked. Reloaded and tried sneaking, destroyed me. Third time used Codsworth to distract the 6 or so raiders and it took half of my ammo to down the big guy.

Also the pacing is up to the player, and the first power armor is just a straight up tutorial for it basically.
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Playing on Hard. Two shots from my Laser Musket and he was down for the count. Perhaps because the Raider PA has bad energy defense, mind you, but still.

And I get that it was meant as a tutorial of sorts. But it's still ridiculous that I'm in a PA shooting my Minigun at a Deathclaw coming out of nowhere barely an hour into the game. It damages the sense of progression of the game. That would be like allowing me to kill a dragon at level 4 in Skyrim... oh wait.

Anyway, on a more positive note, I forgot to say I found a fun location. It's the General Atomics Galleria, east of the something Bluffs settlement. There are loads of defective Mr. Handys with some nice dialogue, and a mini-quest to take over the place from the Director robot. I haven't been able to because he asks for an ID that I failed to find, trying to bluff him fails, and since he's level 25 he guns me down immediately if combat ensues. I guess I could go fetch my PA and try it again but I like the fact that a quest in the game asks more of me than hitting it until it falls over.

What's funny is that this quest isn't marked on the log except in the ''misc'' category, and yet it seems to have more thought put into it than any of the ''main'' quests I did thus far.
 
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Wow, I didn't knew Jim was at such low level. So the way to combat butthurt metacritic reviews is to write an article full of butthurt. The guy is so blinded with hype that the ones that don't like it are blinded with nostalgia, according to him. All his argument is "Fallout 1/2 is old so who cares, Fallout 3/4 is new so it's the second coming of christ, get over it old men" . Bravo Jim, excellent points. You seemed smarter when you just wrote poetry with Yahtzee.

AngryDweller is angry (obviously) about the game’s lack of emotions. Bethesda needs David Cage on board, stat!
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Yes Jim, the best way to improve the writing of a game is to hire an even worse writer.
 
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Put in five hours so far, and I have no motivation to go forward into Diamond City versus continue to fix up the once livable neighborhood of my MC, likely because I know what kind of travesty the main quest will be and how much more interesting the settlement building idea was. t goes deeper than that, though. Walpknut? Remember your spoiler from post #355?

I'm going to try skipping past rescuing Valentine and getting Dogmeat in my next session to see how far I can get before walls get thrown in front of me for the Main Quest. From what the strategy guide is showing, it won't take long.
 
I've read that the difficulty on the game is really over the top? Like Rad Away is priced too high and too scarce etc. Any fallout veterans finding the game is too hard even on normal?
 
Yeah, it reminds me of the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and .skate Create-A-Park modes. Very limited in scope and location density.
 
I'm about 10 hours in, and my opinion is exactly what I though it would be, mixed. I know that it may be disliked by some here, but a lot of the simple gameplay additions I like. I appreciate having a usable gun system instead of what we got in 3, I like the weapon customization, I like the power armor system AND normal armor systems, and even the settlement building. I like the idea of the random junk actually having a use in the sense of being raw material to work with.

...The dialogue cross is exactly what most people here thought in that it's awful. I don't mind the performance the player character VAs give, but they're doing a job I didn't want done in the first place. But being surprised by what my character says annoys me to no end, which could have at least been slightly addressed by taking a note from Deus Ex. The stats system is completely dumbed down, SPECIAL feels meaningless because you can put points into them if you want each level.

And the big one is that the main quest is stupid. The worst part is that this is YET AGAIN a possible easy fix, just don't have the spouse pointlessly killed, have them be a fully fledged character in the story nudging you towards the end goal. That could have shown how the situation could strain a marriage, possibly ending in a separation or the relationship enduring depending on player actions. Maybe it would have actually made me care about the supposed "family." Yeah, it would require more recording, but what we got just feels so lazy.

Then there's a bunch more stuff that could be talked about, but these are the big things for me. I don't even want to touch on technical issues right now. Suffice it to say that my 144 hz monitor cannot be all it can be with this game.
 
retrocore9 said:
I've read that the difficulty on the game is really over the top? Like Rad Away is priced too high and too scarce etc. Any fallout veterans finding the game is too hard even on normal?
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I would say not really. I'm around 12 hours in, but only hanging around starting areas and I've got something like 40 stimpacks(that I don't use at all) 10 RadAways and a lot of other chems, more junk than you could pack on a freighter and nobody to sell my weapons to. I end up scrapping most of the stuff for materials.
The game pretty much hands loot to you at every possible opportunity. You even get guns just randomly lying around, though they are pipe weapons, so they are crap.

And the game is not hard at all so far, ghouls are laughably easy to kill, just blow off one leg and it can't do *anything* anymore, even legendary ones. But it seems like Synths offer some challenge, mainly because when you meet them there's lots of them and if they focus fire, you'll die quickly.
So far I really don't feel any incentive to actually roll out the Power Armor that you get right away at the very beginning of the game. It would just be an overkill.
 
Even tho I like the idea of the Armor body part reinformenet system, what I don't like is that all the parts look like ass. They don't really look like Reinforcements, they just look like I just hung a bunch of random garbage on my Vault Suit.
 
retrocore9 said:
I've read that the difficulty on the game is really over the top? Like Rad Away is priced too high and too scarce etc. Any fallout veterans finding the game is too hard even on normal?
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Maybe not on Normal and below but I'm on hard and round corners to nukes to the face, or 3 bloodbugs swarming and ending me in seconds, or 15 ghouls rushing me, etc. It is not easy. I came up to a couple "Gunners" on an onramp and got wrecked in 3 shots for example.
 
Oh, and on a technical level, it's a mess. Going above 110 FPS causes me to get stuck after leaving a terminal, unable to move around? How was something this gamebreaking missed in bugtesting? I've had to throttle my framerate down to 72 just to function. Bethesda that's... that's not cool, come on.
@Askorti
I must be ranging way too far then. I'm constantly low on stims, radaway, and ammo. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. I kind of like that though, being low on supplies. It makes every encounter a bit more interesting. The only thing I have an abundance of is fusion cores...

@Walpknut
I ditched the vault suit for road leathers pretty early on, or just a drifter's outfit because I like how that looks. I thought the armor parts looked pretty okay on the leathers though.
 
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Chromevod said:
I must be ranging way too far then. I'm constantly low on stims, radaway, and ammo. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. I kind of like that though, being low on supplies. It makes every encounter a bit more interesting. The only thing I have an abundance of is fusion cores...
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I have over 1000 .38 bullets, something like 250 10mm rounds and 170 buckshot with around 200 MFC lying in a chest at my crib. Aside from that I have some small amounts of other ammo. I guess that's because I specialized myself in single shot rifles and snipe my enemies from afar, it's good for ammo conservation.
But then again, I'm just fighting ghouls and raiders, so I bet I will have more trouble later on and my stocks might deplete.

btw I wear the road leather too, looks neat, it's a shame you can't upgrade it like the parts.
So far I find it hard to find decent clothes to put underneath your armor parts. My fashion-conscious hipster dweller is not amused at all. So far only his military beret and shades really suit him.
 
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