First Impression of Fallout 4

Wow! Who complains about having a lot of action at the beginning of the game!?

If "action" isn't what you're playing the game for, it's a reasonable complaint in case there exist other reasons to play the game other than "action." Like, it's not really a reasonable criticism to level at say Call of Duty or Street Fighter, but Fallout 4 is (or at least ought to be) a roleplaying game, and for a lot of people who like RPGs (myself included), the combat is just the thing you have to put up with in order to get to the good parts so "too much action" is totally a reasonable complaint.
 
I honestly don't no why anyone's bitching, the story's ten times better then Skyrim and Fallout 3. And people who say NV is better are fucking idiots that game was just sand with a stupid story that as almost no real choices because you can't continue after the end. The graphics are not bad at all, yes there's a shit ton better, but like it looks better then every other Bethesda game and seems to play better to and that's all I really need. Also I don't think Obsidian did a better job, it was all copy and past from fallout 3 with no green tint. It had no good environmental story telling (something Bethesda does very well) and then factions were meh at best. Also all of you keep forgetting about side quest (which are always better then the story) and the settlements, collecting, and huge replayability these games have. Also if you don't like the fact your character talks then why play any fucking game because at least this one like mass effect and dragon age let you be you in more ways.

Just saw this comment on a Youtube video and I thought you would like to read it.
 
The gunplay is definetely better than 3, more for previous chapter's lacks than for personal merits, but it has to be acknowledged.
 
Sorry what? I disagree, it's the same stand-and-shoot shit where you trade blows till someone falls down, AKA Fallout 3/Fallout New Vegas.
I'll definitely be looking forward to a realistic damage mod, RWD and PN made New Vegas so much better. I'd much rather be weaker, if it means my enemies aren't bullet sponges.
 
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For now I would give it a 7 as a stand alone action game, but a 4 as a Fallout game. Still can't make any absolute judgements on it, Maybe by the end of the week.

This is kind of my view as well. As a non Fallout game it might work but it would not really be my taste as I see it as a Borderlands-meets-Minecraft game
But as a Fallout game this just comes so short. I find the exploration of the map so far very unrewarding, the combat quickly becoming repetitive, and I don't feel any connection to the NPCs I have met.
So a group of them has decided to settle in my current base of operations, why should I build them houses and equip them with furniture and electricity when what I really want to do is proceed with game and get to somewhere interesting?


For now I would give it a 7 as a stand alone action game, but a 4 as a Fallout game. Still can't make any absolute judgements on it, Maybe by the end of the week.

What would you say about it considered as an RPG in no way related to Fallout? I'm not really into action games.

Sorry to butt in but in my opinion this is not really a game for you. The RPG stuff is very minimal so far.
The 'checks' seem to make more sure you can't craft certain stuff yet at the start of the game.
 
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For now I would give it a 7 as a stand alone action game, but a 4 as a Fallout game. Still can't make any absolute judgements on it, Maybe by the end of the week.

This is kind of my view as well. As a non Fallout game it might work but it would not really be my taste as I see it as a Borderlands-meets-Minecraft game
But as a Fallout game this just comes so short. I find the exploration of the map so far very unrewarding, the combat quickly becoming repetitive, and I don't feel any connection to the NPCs I have met.
So a group of them has decided to settle in my current base of operations, why should I build them houses and equip them with furniture and electricity when what I really want to do is proceed with game and get to somewhere interesting?

Planning to write a review in Sugarbombed... hehehe...
 
I got to play it at my friends house and... its simply a bad videogame.

Bland story/characters, laughable AI, bad dialogue, bad graphics, terrible frame rate. Okay it's better than Fallout 3 in some elements but fuck man... Fallout 3 is a 2008 game.

All this talk about player choice. Fuck, this is one of the most linear RPGs I have ever played even for Bethesda standards. Its like they looked at the last remaining features I enjoyed and removed them completely.

I guess this is Fallout's Skyrim... Bland as fuck but will make a ton of money.
 
I've squeezed in about 5 hours of playtime so far.

The good; graphics are decent, with great weather effects (albeit the fog is a bit over the top). Music is overall very good. The gunplay is an improvement over FO3/New Vegas (not very hard, but still). Power armor is very fun to use. Crafting and modding system looks to have quite a bit of depth and thought put into it. The BoS don't seem quite like white knights of the wasteland anymore. The armor system is sweet, I can reinforce my Vault suit with enough cobbled together parts to give it some very respectable DR and still rock the Vault look. I love dogs and I love Dogmeat. Character creator is fairly extensive and gies you a body adjuster, which I like.

The mediocre: Magic equipment returns. I got a leather armband that gives me +1 PER and AGI off a Legendary Radroach. Um, OK. Is this World of Fallout or something?

Writing is usual Bethesda blandness. It's only not ugly because I kinda like Cogsworth and Courtenay Taylor does a good job as the voice actress of my female character, especially considering the script she was provided. After the first half hour the main character seems remarkably unfazed that their spouse was shot, their son was kidnapped, and they are thrust into a 210 years old post-apocalyptic hellhole when yesterday (for them) they were living a nigh on perfect life. At least you got a dialog line when you talk about it with an NPC but it seems the MC's background is not used well thus far. Conversations are boring and uninspired for the most part too.

I am torn about the new perk system. I dislike the removal of skills (and some perks are just skills in disguise, like those that give 20/40/60/80/100% dmg increase to X weapons) but at least some perks seem fun and the higher ranks sometimes add new functionalities. So it's not as bland as Skyrim's perk system at least. traits would have been welcome though.

The ugly: the dialog system sucks. Even when it was first implemented, by Bioware in ME1, it was better. Now Witcher 3, Deus Ex HR and Inquisition have showed us how to make a good paraphrase system, while Fallout 4 has a ridiculously bad one that barely informs you of what you're going to say at all. The ''sarcastic'' option sometimes end up with an harmless quip, but one time I called a BoS Paladin a looter to his face, for which I should have gotten a facefull of laser rifle. I had no intention of saying that.

The quests are bare-bones. At least FO3 tried to give you choices, even when they were silly (IE Metagon). FO4 cuts the middleman and simply asks you to go there and kill those bad things. One quest asked me to go to the Corvega power plant, and I must have killed at least 40 raiders to clean the place up completely. At some point I was beginning to be really sick and tired of gunning down the same mindless raider idiot again and again (the AI being of course abysmal).

Tied into the above, world design is usual Bethesda theme park. For starters, early settlements have 2-3 people, sometimes 5. Raider camps universally have double that, and as I said that power facility alone was home to more raiders than the number of friendly NPCs I had met thus far. Pre-war prologue included. After New Vegas took pains to craft a believable world, and even Skyrim saw improvements in this regard, this is quite a shame.

Performance is bad. My PC isn't the best, but I can run Witcher 3 at over 30 FPS in all but the most extreme conditions, on medium-high settings. Fallout 4 doesn't look anywhere near as good and I get lower FPS on it consistently; urban areas see a pretty big dip in framerate in particular.

Overall, not overly impressed. It's a fun run-and-gun simulator with some promising aspects, but as an RPG and Fallout game it leaves much to be desired thus far. Not a terrible game by any means, but it will have to improve to beat Skyrim in my books, and beating New Vegas already seems right out.
 
More impresions:
Ok so I am in Diamond City now, from the Leak streams I found the quests interesting and they actually seemed to have choices and consequences. SEEMED.

On one hand I actually tried to metagame my way through the main plot, sothis part is gonna be in a spoiler tag jut out of courtesy:
The guy who kidnapped your kid is a fellow named Kellog. He lives in Diamond city and the key to his room can be found on the Major's office.You would normally have to go through a mission to rescue Valentine the Synth detective who would point you to Kellog and his house. There you would find a secret button that would lead to a secret room and furthering the main quest.

So I tried being a sneaky sneak and got into the Major's office before even rescuing Valentine. I even found the key to Kellog's house there... So I went oppened the door and.... the button the Leak Stream showed would be there when you got into the house with Valentine was nowhere to be found. It was literary non existent. So I now have to forcefully go and rescue the Synth because the Main quest is a linear piece of shit.

On the other sidequests.
Did you watch the leak streams? Remember that one with the dude who shoots his wife's lover and then you find details on a drug transaction that you can stop? Remember how some people said the only reason he couldn't beat that without violence was because of Low Charisma? Well nope, I stopped the dude from shooting his wife's lover, this resulted in him telling us about the drug deal we went there, Combat started immediately and then the guy said that now he should just leave the region forever. I am being serious here, that's what happens. They just change the dialogue around but the Mission structure stays exactly the same. No brancing paths, no nothing. There isn't even a Pacifist option.

Same with the Quest where you help the DJ gain confidence.We thought that Vadim getting kidnapped only happened because the Streamer accidentaly killed the thugs in the fake fight. Nope again, Vadim gets kidnapped anyway and you still have to go rescue him with Travis. No Pacifist route of any kind either.

Combat is getting a little tougher but that might be just because I am an unarmed character and I am purpousely going into areas beyond my current level.

This game is just a loot shooter pretending to be an RPG.
 
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Planning to write a review in Sugarbombed... hehehe...
No offense but I'd rather have someone like Walpknut do a review of it. It sounds like you haven't played it yet and that would be a significant blow to any chance of them taking you seriously. Walpknut however is doing a fairly thorough playthrough so it'd probably be better if someone like him did it.
 
Planning to write a review in Sugarbombed... hehehe...
No offense but I'd rather have someone like Walpknut do a review of it. It sounds like you haven't played it yet and that would be a significant blow to any chance of them taking you seriously. Walpknut however is doing a fairly thorough playthrough so it'd probably be better if someone like him did it.

Oh I have played (only recently), but sure! I can ferry his review if he wants! In fact I'd love to, maybe with extra of my notes if he doesn't mind.
 
I honestly don't no why anyone's bitching, the story's ten times better then Skyrim and Fallout 3. And people who say NV is better are fucking idiots that game was just sand with a stupid story that as almost no real choices because you can't continue after the end. The graphics are not bad at all, yes there's a shit ton better, but like it looks better then every other Bethesda game and seems to play better to and that's all I really need. Also I don't think Obsidian did a better job, it was all copy and past from fallout 3 with no green tint. It had no good environmental story telling (something Bethesda does very well) and then factions were meh at best. Also all of you keep forgetting about side quest (which are always better then the story) and the settlements, collecting, and huge replayability these games have. Also if you don't like the fact your character talks then why play any fucking game because at least this one like mass effect and dragon age let you be you in more ways.

Just saw this comment on a Youtube video and I thought you would like to read it.
These stupid fucks...
 
I have no idea why people keep saying this game is hard to role play in. My crazed ex military control freak is doing just fine; building settlements full of paranoid traps and defenses, suffering from savior complex and constantly low on caps because of it, and secretly lusting after a ghoul.
 
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