It's fair to say "game journalism" is an oxymoron. Who cares about this shit...why would anyone want to read a "game journalism" opinion anyway. I prefer to seek the knowledge of people in such places as NMA...they're beyond corruption. 
Game journalism is a disgrace
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.Pixote. said:It's fair to say "game journalism" is an oxymoron. Who cares about this shit...why would anyone want to read a "game journalism" opinion anyway. I prefer to seek the knowledge of people in such places as NMA...they're beyond corruption.
It doesn't have to be that way, it shouldn't be that way, and eventually I hope it will change. I care about this shit because it affects the industry and the games that are made. Whatever you want to call them, journalists, reviewers, sell outs, it doesn't matter, the "job" is in high demand and tons of people are simply doing it wrong. Fledgling gaming sites are squashed by facepalming absurdity from IGN, Gamespot, and Kotaku, while we sit and moan about how much it sucks. By being honest with reviews you will inevitably piss people off, but that comes with the job. I propose a coordinated purging of all the popular gaming sites..only from the ashes can we finally have a chance of setting things right.
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Formerk said:
I can't sleep. The cause is too important.
TheWesDude
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these gaming sites are going the wrong way.
i dont give a shit if you let bethesda fly you from poland to the US to preview their next game.
what i do give a shit about is what you say about the preview.
i dont give a shit if you accept a Halo 4 themed xbox 360 elite and halo 4 and some swag.
what i do give a shit about is if you then give the game above a 7.0.
the games industry is reading this the wrong way.
these gaming sites need to come up with a set of criteria for each gaming genre, and then perfect examples of each of those criterias.
and then judge every game and score each criteria. and then use that to come up with your overall score.
remove bias from your scoring, bring objectivity back. if i see a game score 9.0, there is no way in fucking hell i should see a monster hit another, and then that smaller enemy fly into the ground, and then BOUNCE so high they hit the skybox.
i dont give a shit if you let bethesda fly you from poland to the US to preview their next game.
what i do give a shit about is what you say about the preview.
i dont give a shit if you accept a Halo 4 themed xbox 360 elite and halo 4 and some swag.
what i do give a shit about is if you then give the game above a 7.0.
the games industry is reading this the wrong way.
these gaming sites need to come up with a set of criteria for each gaming genre, and then perfect examples of each of those criterias.
and then judge every game and score each criteria. and then use that to come up with your overall score.
remove bias from your scoring, bring objectivity back. if i see a game score 9.0, there is no way in fucking hell i should see a monster hit another, and then that smaller enemy fly into the ground, and then BOUNCE so high they hit the skybox.
Surf Solar
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.Pixote. said:It's fair to say "game journalism" is an oxymoron. Who cares about this shit...why would anyone want to read a "game journalism" opinion anyway. I prefer to seek the knowledge of people in such places as NMA...they're beyond corruption.
This. I don't get the whole fuss about this shit, everyone knows those gaming sites are useless, biased, bought or everything combined. When I want to inform myself of a game, wether I should buy it or not, I read fora and opinions of people who actually played the game. That's much more useful to me than some random asshat working in the industry writing "Reviews" where you could just replace the title of the game and slap the same article on everything they review.
"9.8 - IGN
It's okay."
This might have been necessary before the internet, when we had printed magazines. Now with the internet everyone who hasn't a potato for a brain can just look up (mostly) unbiased user reviews on fora.
I know we all love our games here, but lets be realistic, "games" are just games, nothing more...no it's not art, nor is it life and death, it's just a clever form of entertainment. Sure there's a lot of money in entertainment, but I feel like people do get slightly carried away with their gaming. Just saying. 
Now if you don't mind I want to listen to some Tom Waits.
Now if you don't mind I want to listen to some Tom Waits.
.Pixote. said:
Them's fight words.
where is wooz when you need him!
The "it's not a big deal" defense is weaksauce. Pretty much any problem in life has a worse problem that makes it seem insignificant. It's still an issue, even if we're just talking journalism of people's hobbies. The industry won't improve by upholding this system, and this industry presently is in a bit of a crisis, and a horrible employer.
Maybe we should Kickstart a website that does nothing but research and call out shill journalists.
Maybe we should Kickstart a website that does nothing but research and call out shill journalists.
It'll end up like that one lady who started up that kickstarter to examine sexism in games.
To solve problems like this, one must be the any that bides its time as it climbs up the bear.
While the other ants sting at the bear's feet and are squashed, the patient ant climbs up to the bears neck and kills it with a well-placed sting.
So we need some killer ants.
To solve problems like this, one must be the any that bides its time as it climbs up the bear.
While the other ants sting at the bear's feet and are squashed, the patient ant climbs up to the bears neck and kills it with a well-placed sting.
So we need some killer ants.
actually, thats an awesome ideaBrother None said:
bees, I think bees are the answer, they can do the job much better and a lot more efficient.generalissimofurioso said:
Crni Vuk said:
I think a global plague would be better, something like Captain Trips from the Stand.
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.Pixote. said:I know we all love our games here, but lets be realistic, "games" are just games, nothing more...no it's not art, nor is it life and death, it's just a clever form of entertainment. Sure there's a lot of money in entertainment, but I feel like people do get slightly carried away with their gaming. Just saying.
Now if you don't mind I want to listen to some Tom Waits.
Gaming is the one thing I have done consistently since I was 4 (other than the obvious). Not everyone feels like scouring forums for hours to try an get a clear view of what the game might be like. "Reviewers" don't have to be as shitty as they are, so why not try to improve things? The medium isn't going away anytime soon, it's obvious lots of people care about it, and games do matter to lots of people. Trivializing the impact that they have on many peoples lives is silly, since you're, like, posting on a forum filled with people obsessed with a game from 1997. Pixote, me thinks you are only pretending to be a gamer, and are actually a spy sent to destroy the foundations of NMA from within. You haven't played many titles which are considered "required" by the Board of Awesome Gamers, and I hereby revoke your gaming permit.
People getting carried away with gaming!? Seriously dude, gaming is large part of my life, along with sex, movies, and good food, what more do you want in life? Tom Waits!? Pfftt. I scoff at your clever remarks on how much better music is. Give games a couple hundred years to play catch up with "art" and "music" (both of which are in many games btw). Games not art? Haven't played the right games obviously. Pixote, I challenge you to a fight to the death. Them are fightin' words my friend. I can't have you debasing my lifestyle bro. It just won't do.
Lets put it this way, if you are going to do something, you might as well do it right. There is no reason to do something half ass, if it can be done right, then do it right. Why settle for mediocrity and say, "It doesn't matter", when it matters to people that matter? If it didn't matter then we wouldn't be talking about how much it matters? So what's the matter? Surf Solar, I am truly disappointed. Surely you get why people care, as much as you devote to defending the cause of the righteous NMA hordes. User reviews are often crap, so why not demand better quality reviews? I mean, look at this shit review right here: http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62445
I demand better.
UncannyGarlic
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I love the idea of a journalistic website which investigates the media and reports on ethics violations and illegal activity.Brother None said:
Ideally there would be some organization with prestige that licenses journalists. I envision something like BAR (USA law licensing organization) only instead of controlling whether or not they could be a journalist they would empower journalists with legal protections and pull their license for ethical or legal violations.
generalissimofurioso said:
Indeed, but you forgot these ants need to also be incorruptible straight arrows that always tell the truth. Ants with the personality of yes man. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure the world is in short supply of those... if we didn't make them go extinct already.
At that age you should have been chopping wood, and collecting water for your family.TorontRayne said:
It's true I have spent 1000's of hours working on Fallout over the years, but this obsession must stop. I find it more enjoyable making games, rather than playing them, so you can revoke my game "playing" permit, but please not the game "making" permit.TorontRayne said:
There is so much more to life than gaming, yes sex and good food out score gaming any day, along with good literature, fine music, meaningful conversions, etc.TorontRayne said:
How about Pong at 20 yards.TorontRayne said:
Sure, I have no argument here, those games that stand out were acts of love by people who truly cared about what they were doing. And with Kickstarter we might see a few more of those types of games again, but I don't need games so desperately that I go out and buy a game the day it's released. I can moderate myself, and I prefer to let the mania die down before I investigate a game. I will say I do appreciate your game reviews TorontRayne over at 100 RPGs per Hour.TorontRayne said:
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Well played sir. I'll get back to you on the Pong match. I agree with others on the Kickstarter thing. No amoral reviewers allowed. BN, make it so.
Brother None said:
Count me in.