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Interesting how Bogota is smack in the middle of the country. Usually the big cities and capitals are on coastal areas and Colombia has plenty of coasts to choose from. Bogota is also surrounded by mountains and jungles, that's very exotic. I look out the window and see just a snowy wilderness, with a howling wind blowing across the frozen tundra. In the distance I can see the gleaming eyes of a wolf or something. It's like The Long Dark, except real.
 
Supreme Shah Ismail said:
Hey remember when Panama was part of Colombia and the Americans literally forced them to separate so they can take advantage of the Panama canal?
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I learn something new every day!

Btw, do you live in the ghetto Walp?
I saw a movie recently, mostly set in Colombia, Norwegian movie about an adopted kid. It was an okay movie, which of course went right ahead with the massive culture shock a Norwegian would experience going to Colombia.

You know, over here, things don't happen to you.

Like... you won't get robbed. You can walk around, at night, in the "worst" (lol) part of town, with a top hat made of money, and nothing. You can repeat this, night after night, and eventually just become "that guy with the top hat made of money"

We go vacationing in South America, and I can allready count incidents that I've heard of first hand, of Norwegies just wandering straight into dark alleys, one mass-robbed by little children in Peru, one guy bicycling for his life chased by children in Santiago, Chile, one chick arguing w her boyfriend in fucking Rio de Janeiro, for then to angrily wander off in the ghetto "I'M GOING!"
All these were people with SOME connection there, family etc, so they weren't in touristy places, but in "the hood"
My family in Peru, whom I have never met, live in some fucking barrio in Lima, I've seen footage filmed by my grannie, there's like dead street punks grafittied on walls. They wear firearms there, my relatives that is

A guy in my class when I was a teen, he also had family in Lima, and was invited to go see them. Also right in the ghetto. His dad gave him rules "don't ever stop your car for red lights, just blast through, or they'll GTA your ass and shoot you in the face. Have fun!"
He told me he had been emailing a cousin there, who was called "El Toro" in the streets. Shit man, couldn't be something... more like... "El Sombrero" or something, dude, so I told him "ask if they carry guns" (I was morbidly curious)
he reported back to me a few days later, he had asked, and been told "don't worry about that. You'll be with brothers."
He almost shit himself :D
 
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I livein the capital in an ok place. If I lived in a ghetto do you think I would be able to travel abroad on my savings? I haven't gotten robbed once in my life actually, and I have had to go through pretty ugly parts of the city (from my time as an industrial design student, all the workshops and places where you buy materials are for some reason right next to the demacrated part of the city).

All those stories he told you seem to be mostly pulling your leg, like australians with Dropbears, that or maybe he live through the Pinochett regime, I don't know, never been to Lima. Sounds more like your friends just have no sense of self preservation if they actively go into dangerous places at night as tourists, it's not like you can get into those by accident.
 
Yep. I have some connections to Mexico and Spain. Having had some connections there, I've become a bit more aware of some of the prejudices that exist towards folks from those parts, and I guess from Latin America in general. Nice folks. Still need to learn more about the history and of course the languages.
 
Walpknut said:
I livein the capital in an ok place. If I lived in a ghetto do you think I would be able to travel abroad on my savings? I haven't gotten robbed once in my life actually, and I have had to go through pretty ugly parts of the city (from my time as an industrial design student, all the workshops and places where you buy materials are for some reason right next to the demacrated part of the city).

All those stories he told you seem to be mostly pulling your leg, like australians with Dropbears, that or maybe he live through the Pinochett regime, I don't know, never been to Lima. Sounds more like your friends just have no sense of self preservation if they actively go into dangerous places at night as tourists, it's not like you can get into those by accident.
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Like I said, most of them didn't really have a choice, since they were visiting relatives who sortof live where they live... :D

I fully realize a normal tourist would have no trouble avoiding such places, but this is one of the main reasons I have never been eager to visit my relatives there. They live in a run down part of Lima. I mean... I'd be like a walking, breathing gamble. Pale as hell, reeking of tourist, with my tennis socks and vacation sandals. I wouldn't last a day

My step-ma surprise invited my dad to go there, he's from there, and his first reaction was seriously "god no! what have you done!", she is REALLY naive, I say that lovingly, she's very very cool, but she has NO experience with big places... even in Norway she comes from a small oceanic island
He admitted to me, most of the trip he had been constantly nervous :D she had been waving expensive cameras around, snapping pics of the run down poverty, you know, "foreign culture", I joked "you expected someone to motorcycle past and snatch the camera?"
"No. I expected someone to motorcycle past and snatch her."

Yeah, a bit exaggerated I suppose, they were fine, but still, very different from Norway... :D

In fact, a commie friend of mine roadtripped through central America. I kept telling him "they're gonna murder you." he came back, and showed me a fucking sing-along he had managed to spontaneously prompt in a bar, singing "Nicaragua, Nicaraguita"
I wanted to punch him.
 
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When I went on a trip with my parents to visit the family like five years ago, we went from northern Mexico (Sonora Desert) to the US in San Fran direction. And we only got robbed in a californian car park, we went back to the jeep and they pinched the cameras, the passports and some souvenirs we were bringing. Out of "the bad neighbourhood", it's bullshit to say that in X there's more crime than in Y becouse "reasons".
 
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When I went on a trip with my parents to visit the family like five years ago, we went from northern Mexico (Sonora Desert) to the US in San Fran direction. And we only got robbed in a californian car park, we went back to the jeep and they pinched the cameras, the passports and some souvenirs we were bringing. Out of "the bad neighbourhood", it's bullshit to say that in X there's more crime than in Y becouse "reasons".
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What... ? Yes, reasons. Some places have more crime than other places - and there ARE reasons for it, that's just a known, world-encompassing fact...
Places are different.
There's also different temperatures in different places, because of reasons, as well as different fauna, different languages, and so on. Piles of reasons!
 
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What... ? Yes, reasons. Some places have more crime than other places - and there ARE reasons for it, that's just a known, world-encompassing fact...
Places are different.
There's also different temperatures in different places, because of reasons, as well as different fauna, different languages, and so on. Piles of reasons!
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For "reasons" I kinda meant non statiscally proved ones.
 
Arnust said:
For "reasons" I kinda meant non statiscally proved ones.
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But... okay? :D
I mean, sure, there's lots of bullshit reasons out there that some people like to perpetuate, like "some cultures have more crime in them" or whatever.
But real reasons are real, for example with Norway, some reasons are:
Low population (in general), VERY low population density
combined with high rate of welfare, practically zero crippling poverty (welfare system makes sure nobody "falls through the cracks") this all but eliminates muggeries out of desperation (Oslo still has some "ritualistic" muggeries now and then, w gang-kidz wanting to prove themselves and whatnot. Trondheim has none if it, whatsoever. Zip, zero, nothing)

These reasons culminate in a level of safety that is much greater than many other much more crowded places.
We still have crime, but its rarer, statistically.
If anything, we have a lot of drunken brawling, in the weekends. When visiting Spain, I was amazed at how a city of 2 million was much more quiet during a saturday night, than my town of 200 000, which is just deafening ruckus mostly cus of rampant drunkedness. I'm sure Spain has drunkedness like this too, but the ratio is different, there's no two ways about it.
 
I remember walking in the Paris old town on a sunday and it was pretty much deserted for block after block, empty parks etc. around the Pere Lachaise area.
 
So, I might be getting promoted after all, did well on my ergometry, so I'm cleared for the physical training part of the corporals course.

I also had a fight with my sergeant, so that's kinda shit.

Anyway, hows your sex life?
 
Ha! Neeeeerd!

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"some cultures have more crime in them" or whatever.
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Don't worry, I'll say it. Colombian culture is a cess pool, we have been forged by half a century of violence and corruption. Even the most innocent looking person can just spring out on you that they believe in the capital punishment en mass as a solution to crime, even tho one of the few bits of social progress we have accomplished is the abolition of capital punishment.
 
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Airlines too.
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Airlines are just douchy, Pharmaceutical companies actively kill thousands every year and stall medical advancements for profit.

An Airline wouldn't increase the prize of the ticket midflight and ask you to pay or get thrown off the plane with no parachute, while Pharmaceutical companies will withouth a care in the world make any drug they want cost 21 times more than it used to, even drugs that keep people with certain diseases alive, specially when the drug doesn't even cost them that much to produce.
 
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