lisac2k said:
I think, the stimpak in StarCraft is more realistic then the stimpak in Fallout.
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I think, the stimpak in StarCraft is more realistic then the stimpak in Fallout.
Antibiotics fight bacterial infection, which make the natural healing easier. It doesn't heal anything really, it doesn't even make the healing go any faster. It's just make the wound heal without any complications.Pope Viper said:
Sorrow said:
The same can apply to water and food. Without nourishment you won't heal as fast as you should if you had the strength to do so.
And as I said before... The point is that because it isn't in the original two games, you don't want it in Fallout 3.
Bullshit. It doesn't fit the setting. Again: verisimilitude.Salkinius said:
Vault 69er
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
Salkinius said:
Maybe stimpaks.. you know.. stimulate you. Make you feel healthier and able to fight while your body recovers naturally.
After all, super stimpaks give you a powerful healing boost but then reduce your health some time later.
That's why everybody wants another Temple of Trials. That's why everybody approves of the BoS on the East Coast. That's why people generally reacted negatively to the idea of a wrecked aircraft carrier in the middle of a city.
Oh, wait..
Vault 69er
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
Salkinius said:
And you're full of crap. Verisimilitude does not = everything that was in the previous games.
Just think to yourself, which is more credible as a healing property?
- A future drug of unknown ingredients
- Toilet water
Take your time, now.
And strike three for trolling.Salkinius said:
Banned.
OK, there's some more info about the stimpacks:
Starcraft:Stimpacks are capsules of synthesised adrenaline and painkillers. They are used by Marines and Firebats to temporarily increase their speed and rate of fire. If a limb is severed, their powered armour injects a dose into the area. Side effects include tissue hemorrhage, manifested as a -10 hitpoint penalty. A unit taking a stimpack cries out "Oh yeah!" or "That's the stuf!"
Fallout: A stimpack (short for Stimulation Delivery Package) contains many healing Chems. A soup of healing medication, if you will. By injecting the Stimpak, you drastically increase your own recuperative functions and restore lost hit points almost instantly.
It looks like stuff like stimpacks and powered armours were popular among the game devs in the late 1990's.
Starcraft:Stimpacks are capsules of synthesised adrenaline and painkillers. They are used by Marines and Firebats to temporarily increase their speed and rate of fire. If a limb is severed, their powered armour injects a dose into the area. Side effects include tissue hemorrhage, manifested as a -10 hitpoint penalty. A unit taking a stimpack cries out "Oh yeah!" or "That's the stuf!"
Fallout: A stimpack (short for Stimulation Delivery Package) contains many healing Chems. A soup of healing medication, if you will. By injecting the Stimpak, you drastically increase your own recuperative functions and restore lost hit points almost instantly.
It looks like stuff like stimpacks and powered armours were popular among the game devs in the late 1990's.
yevinorion
First time out of the vault
You guys know what the scariest part is? They are wide open to continue to make more sequels.....so expect a Fallout 4 and 5, and maybe even after that. Eventually, people will forget what the originals were like (as is becoming the case with Grand Theft Auto).
quietfanatic
Ancient One
They will survive thanks to the original fans, as there will likely always be some intelligent gamers who like PnP and will hear about Fallout, short of a 1984 situation. If it is a poor game but is still lapped up by everyone, it will discourage attempts to do things properly and remain true to Fallout's roots, and rather promote the trend to continually dumb things down.
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Sander said:
And the noble idea of recreating the tabletop roleplaying experience of computer will be forgotten, which really really sucks.yevinorion said:
The thing that is most disgusting about those previews is that they completely missed the purpose of creation of Fallout.
NukaColaClassic
First time out of the vault
You guys really need to lighten up. Hell, speaking of cult classics, I'm a huge fan of the Nintendo RPG series called "Mother" and Nintendo has yet to release the first Mother game and translate the new, year old Mother 3. There's a guarantee that Nintendo will make money off the games, no doubt. There's no risk involved, yet they don't do it. And it's been driving fans nuts. But most of the Mother/Earthbound fans I've seen aren't as spiteful as some of you guys turn out to be, and they've been waiting for a third game for THIRTEEN years.
But anyway, it's obvious that at this point Bethesda can do nothing to get you guys to give Fallout 3 a chance. So what's belly-aching and arguing going to do? Bethesda won't listen to you and they don't have to. I know, it'd be great if they took out the Fatman or made it more like Fallout 1 & 2, but it's just not happening.
All in all, life is too short to be pissed off all the time. Calm down, perhaps play your nearest and dearest Fallout 1 & 2 in different ways, or hell, make your own Fallout 3 if you think you can mod stuff. Try to get ahold of the Van Buren source code
But anyway, it's obvious that at this point Bethesda can do nothing to get you guys to give Fallout 3 a chance. So what's belly-aching and arguing going to do? Bethesda won't listen to you and they don't have to. I know, it'd be great if they took out the Fatman or made it more like Fallout 1 & 2, but it's just not happening.
All in all, life is too short to be pissed off all the time. Calm down, perhaps play your nearest and dearest Fallout 1 & 2 in different ways, or hell, make your own Fallout 3 if you think you can mod stuff. Try to get ahold of the Van Buren source code
NukaColaClassic said:
No, there's nothing Bethesda can do to get us to judge the game by anything other than our standards. I know that annoys them and it probably annoys you, but it's fact.
There's is no secret unswitchable "against" mode we're in. We form our opinions on what we see. We did with Tactics, BoS and Van Buren, and the last managed to sway our opinions just fine. Had you been around back then, you probably would've said the exact same thing as above. And you'd have been just as right
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Let's blacklist FINO3
I wonder what Beth will come up as Fallout 3 sub tittle, Follout: The Morrowwastes? Fallout: Oblivcalyopse?. Because I'm almost sure it is not going to be named Fallout 3 in the end. They know that they will loose out some money on the people who would be convinced that there is no point completing the 3rd game without playing the other two first (it might bring some good publicity to FO1 and 2, this would be ideal, but will it happen?). Then again, they will most likely, in their hype campaign, advertise that anyone playing so called FO3 will be just fine with out first playing 1 or 2.
The Mother comparison isn't really valid. You're waiting on a translation, whereas Bethesda has taken the Fallout franchise and appear to be royally fucking it up. Think if a new developer took Mother and changed into a side-scrolling action RPG. Would you be pissed?NukaColaClassic said:You guys really need to lighten up. Hell, speaking of cult classics, I'm a huge fan of the Nintendo RPG series called "Mother" and Nintendo has yet to release the first Mother game and translate the new, year old Mother 3. There's a guarantee that Nintendo will make money off the games, no doubt. There's no risk involved, yet they don't do it. And it's been driving fans nuts. But most of the Mother/Earthbound fans I've seen aren't as spiteful as some of you guys turn out to be, and they've been waiting for a third game for THIRTEEN years.
But anyway, it's obvious that at this point Bethesda can do nothing to get you guys to give Fallout 3 a chance. So what's belly-aching and arguing going to do? Bethesda won't listen to you and they don't have to. I know, it'd be great if they took out the Fatman or made it more like Fallout 1 & 2, but it's just not happening.
All in all, life is too short to be pissed off all the time. Calm down, perhaps play your nearest and dearest Fallout 1 & 2 in different ways, or hell, make your own Fallout 3 if you think you can mod stuff. Try to get ahold of the Van Buren source code
There's nothing constructive about complaining here, true, but at the very least it allows people a place to vent with like-minded folks. I for one am pretty grateful this place exists. I've lurked for a few years, but the recent previews of Fallout 3 have built up so much sheer rage inside that I felt the need to spill my guts to people who would understand what I'm talking about.
For the record, I enjoyed Fallout Tactics, at least the combat aspect of the game (with the TB option turned on). It failed at being a good RPG though. But as a TB strategy game, it wasn't bad.
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So?
Mori said:
Heh, they probably won't be stimpacks, but refillable hypodermics. You know, so you won't have to run to the nearest toilet every time you use up all your healing supplies.
Injecting toilet water in your veins for HP! Now THAT'S 50's for you, mwahaha.
Care to explain this? I didn't stumble upon something like this, though I might have overlooked it somehow...Mori said: