Good Bye New Orleans, I Hardly Knew Thee

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Kharn:
... I don't understand why the national guard wasn't read(y) to go in immediately. ...
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Big hurricane, big destruction, big disruption.

The regional disruption OF EVERYTHING does have the 'nuke' scale that 'ban the bomb' types like to infer. All infrastructure, all public service agencies, all health services are NOT on line, not on the coast, not for maybe a 100 miles inland. Maybe more.

Planning. What we will witness is a response to crisis.


Water water everywhere and not a satellite phone to uplink ....

Water level in City now the same as Lake P.

Orleans Dome refugees will be moved to Houston Super Dome where there will at least be air conditioning, flush toilets, and a roof that doesn't leak.
Can build a Super Dome, most likely with a good measure of public funding. Need Super Domes for the ""bread and circuses"" of Western Empires. ....
Stack the super sand bags (3000 pounds) to beef up the levees beyond level 3 hurricane tide surges, well that, like Rome, can't be done in a day, much less a year since last season's hurricanes, and the scare the whole Gulf Coast had.

The veterans of recent hurricanes on the Gulf Coast and Florida implied one could drive out of the destruction zone, get supplies and get back to rebuilding.

NPR report. Pentagon planners openly said they had planned to assist, but are surprised by the scale of the damage. Also, early on, grumbling that National Guard equipment is not States side. Left in Iraq.

Left in Iraq.

Welsh:
The folks in New Orleans and the Gulf are telling him to stay away because they can't afford all the work or expense to give him a photo op.
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Crisis management tends to kick in the fight or flight responses of even the most entrenched bureaucrat, ... will burst out of their cocoon of entitlement, and arrive in time for the photo op ...

Sure hope that ALL the politicians and TV preachers salivating for these photo op 's will stay out until the situation stabilizes.

Let those that CAN, do.

Be ready to donate 10 or 20 bucks, early and often, to what ever quasi private crisis agency you support. Looks like the federal and state response will be a day or two behind on this one. Mobilizing this Homeland Security Agency may take some days.



We can let that sleeping dog of federal cuts in flood control that has occurred on this present governmental watch, we can just let that sleeping dog lie for now.

Let those that CAN, do.



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New Orleans mayor say death toll could be thousands.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9063708/

NEW ORLEANS - Authorities all but surrendered the streets of New Orleans to floodwaters, looting and other lawlessness Wednesday as the mayor called for a total evacuation and warned the death toll from Hurricane Katrina could reach into the thousands.

The grim estimate came as desperation deepened in the city, with gunfire crackling sporadically and looters by the hundreds roaming the streets and ransacking tiny shops and big-box stores alike with impunity.

“We know there is a significant number of dead bodies in the water,” and other people dead in attics, Mayor Ray Nagin said. Asked how many, he said: “Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands.”

That would make Katrina the deadliest natural disaster in the United States since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

With most of the city under water, Army engineers prepared to plug New Orleans’ breached levees with giant sandbags, and authorities drew up plans to clear out the tens of thousands of people left in the Big Easy and practically abandon the below-sea-level city. Most of the evacuees — including thousands now suffering in the hot and muggy Superdome — will be moved to the Astrodome in Houston, 350 miles away.

There will be a “total evacuation of the city. We have to. The city will not be functional for two or three months,” Nagin said. And he said people would not be allowed back into their homes for at least a month or two.

Bush: It's devastating
President Bush flew over the ravaged city and parts of Mississippi’s hurricane-blasted coastline in Air Force One. Turning to his aides, he said: “It’s totally wiped out. ... It’s devastating, it’s got to be doubly devastating on the ground.”

“We’re dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation’s history,” Bush said later in a televised address from the White House, which most victims could not see because power remains out to 1 million Gulf Coast residents.

The federal government dispatched helicopters, warships and elite SEAL water-rescue teams in one of the biggest relief operations in U.S. history, aimed at plucking residents from rooftops in the last of the “golden 72 hours” rescuers say is crucial to saving lives.

The Pentagon announced Wednesday that it would dispatch 10,000 more National Guards to the storm-stricken region, about one-third of them military police to help keep order. The deployment would bring the total number of guards to 21,000.

As fires burned from broken natural-gas mains, the skies above the city buzzed with National Guard and Coast Guard frantically dropping baskets to roofs where victims had been stranded since the storm roared in with a 145-mph fury Monday. Atop one apartment building, two children held up a giant sign scrawled with the words: “Help us!”
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Some days I wish we lived in feudal Japan. Where that true, hopefully all the government types and politicians who fucked this up could commit seppuku and relieve us of more stupidity.
 
Ok I am seeing some authority figure from Louisiana ranting, raving and preaching about how awful the looters are. In my opinion she makes them sound to be the most vial things in her fair state... Does she and many others not realize these are people that not but three days ago supported her? These are people that have lost everything and are trying to get back what they had in some shape or form. Yes there are a few that are just taking advantage of a bad situation. But I honestly think those looters should be treated with a little more understanding. I have heard people say, "Why are they looting? They have insurance that covers all that."
Ahh reality check... Do you know what it costs for hurricane insurance in that area? Most rich people couldn't afford it.

Well, at any rate, 10K troops are going in to restore order and help evacuate as we speak.
 
Looting for food, water, usable clothes, and medical products is completely understandable (and some autority figures had said as such) - but when they start looting TVs, eletronics in general, and entertainment consumer products... that gets a bit out of hand... esp. when armed and shit.

If I was gonna loot and saw a few other people doing it (for the necessary stuff), I would get a group together to grab loads of necessary stuff and hand it out to who needed it.

BUUUUT, say that is easier said than done.
 
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Practically whole of New Orleans submerged? Bands of looters roaming the streets? Armed people shooting at hospitals and rescie choppers? This is just getting more and more surreal...

Am I the only one immediately getting associations to Fallout?
 
The black are stealing all the stores.
New Orleans will be renamed to Old Orleans. That site wont be the same again.
 
Seriously how did the federal administration left things go this far? I don`t get it. Really. Even for this administration, i still don`t get it.
 
The problem is most civilian rescue units are afraid to go in to help now because of all of the shooting and sniping and fighting going on. Remembah, this is tha SOUTH, whare guns are a' plenty and so are tha attitudes *sips lemonade*.

National Guard is being brought in to give it another shot.

People were warned of this very incident at least a few days before the storm actually hit. Many left, as they should have. At least half of who is left were stubbon people who didn't want to leave (the "i've been through bad storms before, I can make it throught this on" types or those who are too proud to leave their "homeland"). The other half (note these rations are purely subjective based on no real fact on me, just a guess) are homeless/poor/sick/no transportation, which is a higher than normal % compared to most US cities as there is a significant poor populace in New Orleans.
 
Remembah, this is tha SOUTH, whare guns are a' plenty and so are tha attitudes *sips lemonade*.
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So if the population of New York was suddenly isolated and flooded, with no food, water, or electricity, everything would just be honky dory?

No, all the homeboys in Compton would just leave their irons and line up peaceably for the po-po.
 
demonslayer - You thung what now?

Brutulf - Yeah its turning out to be just like that Morgan Freeman movie "Hard Rain" ... Really

Briosafreak From what I hear good ol' W and his admin thought it best to cut out 70,000,000.00 in levy funding for bigger and better things.

Bradylama well, yes... you saw the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"
 
Brady, Compton is not in New York.

Yeah, and did you see the movie "Cinderella" lol omg? Totally like New Orleans!

Christ. Who the hell let all those lab-monkeys free onto the boards while I was gone?
 
lol hey now those movies do have some relation to the situation. The plot is the same. Black dude wants cash. Citys levys flood. City goes under just as bad.
 
bahahahha And im sure if you look closely you can see Mini Driver out there in the water all wet with nothin but a T-shirt on.
 
Bradylama said:
Remembah, this is tha SOUTH, whare guns are a' plenty and so are tha attitudes *sips lemonade*.
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So if the population of New York was suddenly isolated and flooded, with no food, water, or electricity, everything would just be honky dory?

No, all the homeboys in Compton would just leave their irons and line up peaceably for the po-po.
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EXACTLY - Because we know NY is made of fluffy clouds and rainbows!!
 
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