Good Bye New Orleans, I Hardly Knew Thee

This is got to be the saddest damn thing I've ever seen.

I passed by the Reunion Arena in Dallas on my way in to work today, and saw a horde of activity (rare at 6:00 in the am), I also saw several large passenger vehicles/buses. So either they've started shipping in refugees, or they're preparing to go get them

I just can't believe the base naturity of humanity at times.
 
Maphusio said:
bahahahha And im sure if you look closely you can see Mini Driver out there in the water all wet with nothin but a T-shirt on.

Where? Where? :shock:

*drool*
 
...god

Pope the Viper ineed they have started dropping them off in Texas. The stadium there is full and they are looking for other locations to drop of 25,000 other people

And thanks for that live journal and those pictures. Those help alot
 
Pope Viper said:
This is got to be the saddest damn thing I've ever seen.

I passed by the Reunion Arena in Dallas on my way in to work today, and saw a horde of activity (rare at 6:00 in the am), I also saw several large passenger vehicles/buses. So either they've started shipping in refugees, or they're preparing to go get them

I just can't believe the base naturity of humanity at times.

Houston is full, so they are redirecting people to Dallas and places in Alabama. No warm meals, baths of quality medical facilities in the Houston arena at this point.

Baton Rouge looks like Somalia. The Mayors interview was incredible, won`t someone listen to him?

Again let me point out this link
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/

Can someone clers me if that´s smoke on the webcam pics? Because canal street has some fires now, but i can`t watch the stream, giving a registry screw up i`m having.
 
When New York had a black out back in the 1970s there was massive looting- but New York was very poor and on the borderline with bankruptcy, lots of social/racial issues, and crime was a mess.

Then when New York had the blackout a few years ago, the evacuation was orderly and generally peaceful. There was some fear of a terrorist attack, but generally folks work together.

Likewise, when San Francisco had its last big earthquake, there was little problem of looting and crime.

But this is New Orleans- lots of crime, lots of povery, serious social issues. And these folks were left behind because they were too poor to own cars or otherwise pay for evacuation. Yes, the looting is done pridominantly by blacks, but not completely by blacks. I have seen some white folks looting too.

New Orleans is a great town to visit, but its had big problems for a long time.

And why wasn't something done about this before, when in 2001 someone said that it was inevitable that New Orleans would be hit by a Hurricane?

Apparently funds were needed to rebuild Iraq instead.

So yeah, this is a huge fuck up. People are dieing because of exposure to the heat and no water or food. People are dieing in hospitals because they are running out of medicine, have no electricity, and are running out of food and water.

This is a huge fuck up and even the media is getting very critical. The hurricane hit on Monday morning and it's Friday and things are still fucked up?
 
Hit right on Welsh. Accept it has been said this would happen over 50 years ago. Yet little to no preparations were made for the reason (as I have heard on the "Dave Ross Show" www.710kiro.com) was the funds to do so were needed for the war.
It indeed is VERY nice to see the media being critical... at least when it comes to mass tragedy in the homeland.


UPDATE: I just heard the mayor for my first time. "The government said they are on their way -BS, Where is the beef?"

My hero.

Sri Lanka just donated 25,000 USD for this... Wow thats... thats well lets just say we better be nice and invade them next to "straiten" out things there.
 
demonslayer said:
New Orleans will be renamed to Old Orleans.

I think the French got there first. :roll:

And why has Bush taken five days to get there?
 
Mikey said:
And why has Bush taken five days to get there?

Because he was/is on vacation! You can't bother the CIC with such a thing as a tragedy like this if it doesn't involve airplanes flying into buildings! :seriouslyno:

I mean really, Bush could be blamed for an ill-prepared and -conceived response, so where is he? In Crawford of course, as far (figuratively) from events as possible!

And yes, I know he cut his vacation off and flew over the scene (at 30,000 feet probably, lot of good that does) to respond, but where the fuck is the first response?! FEMA?!

God this pisses me off. I haven't been this mad with Shrub since April of 2003.
 
Brutulf said:
Baton Rouge looks like Somalia. The Mayors interview was incredible, won`t someone listen to him?

Again let me point out this link
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
...

What do you mean with "looks like Somalia"? There hasn't been a natural disaster there recently, has there?

My roommate works for Securitas (a security company as a security officer). He just volunteer to take a temprary work assignment in Baton Rouge for 3-4 week to provide extra security assistance there and is leaving tonight.

Maphusio said:
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Sri Lanka just donated 25,000 USD for this... Wow thats... thats well lets just say we better be nice and invade them next to "straiten" out things there.

dude, that probably emptied their treasury... ;)

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Side note: they should have never developed the city of new orleans as it stands, it was "asking" to be a lake.
 
Yean that probably did empty their treasury Rev. Layle. I am still tickled by that. I have been listening to the radio all day while doing cable installs and I heard so much crap. What I was impressed with was how much the people listening to 710kiro.com donated. Over 100K in a few hours. For the most part they only people listening were in the Puget Sound Lowlands. So there sure as hell better be a TON of cash flowing in here. I am thinking more than is going to be needed. Many other countries are giving aid oddly enough many of them cant afford to do so like Sri Lanka and Mexico.

I refuse to see Bush and this administration get off the hook on this one. And I am REALLY IMPRESSED with the Mayor of the Big Easy. That man I would vote into office. A politician that speaks his mind? No answers with questions?
 
"Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag." Michael Moore

lol I know most despise him here, his most recent newsletter had some good ol' sarcastic points regarding this whole mess.
 
Bush was in Washington based on the pretext of "coordinating" relief efforts. Something I suspect he doesn't have any actual control of. Of course, FEMA bit the bullet and couldn't handle things, so now the President feels like he has to go in there and make people feel better. Which I suppose he's done for somebody after watching him walk around with those two little black girls in Biloxi. You could tell it wasn't scripted, however, becuase he tells a white guy that they should find the Salvation Army and then the white guy says that it was blown away in the storm. So then the president asks him if they can go anywhere and the dude says there's a temporary shelter set up. Blah blah blah.

In other news: George Bush doesn't care about black people.
 
yeah no doubt, I wish that guy could have said what went on at the shelter and he was probably better off out there.

Lets vote the mayor of New Orleans into office. Things will rock... or partay
 
Kind of interesting to compare what happens when a Cat 5 hurricane hits Cuba, destroys 20K homes but kills no one.

While in the US, we are still looking for bodies, and probably will continue to do so for a long time.

The Two Americas
By Marjorie Cohn

Saturday 03 September 2005

Last September, a Category 5 hurricane battered the small island of Cuba with 160-mile-per-hour winds. More than 1.5 million Cubans were evacuated to higher ground ahead of the storm. Although the hurricane destroyed 20,000 houses, no one died.

What is Cuban President Fidel Castro's secret? According to Dr. Nelson Valdes, a sociology professor at the University of New Mexico, and specialist in Latin America, "the whole civil defense is embedded in the community to begin with. People know ahead of time where they are to go."

"Cuba's leaders go on TV and take charge," said Valdes. Contrast this with George W. Bush's reaction to Hurricane Katrina. The day after Katrina hit the Gulf Coast, Bush was playing golf. He waited three days to make a TV appearance and five days before visiting the disaster site. In a scathing editorial on Thursday, the New York Times said, "nothing about the president's demeanor yesterday - which seemed casual to the point of carelessness - suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis."

"Merely sticking people in a stadium is unthinkable" in Cuba, Valdes said. "Shelters all have medical personnel, from the neighborhood. They have family doctors in Cuba, who evacuate together with the neighborhood, and already know, for example, who needs insulin."

They also evacuate animals and veterinarians, TV sets and refrigerators, "so that people aren't reluctant to leave because people might steal their stuff," Valdes observed.

After Hurricane Ivan, the United Nations International Secretariat for Disaster Reduction cited Cuba as a model for hurricane preparation. ISDR director Salvano Briceno said, "The Cuban way could easily be applied to other countries with similar economic conditions and even in countries with greater resources that do not manage to protect their population as well as Cuba does."

Our federal and local governments had more than ample warning that hurricanes, which are growing in intensity thanks to global warming, could destroy New Orleans. Yet, instead of heeding those warnings, Bush set about to prevent states from controlling global warming, weaken FEMA, and cut the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for levee construction in New Orleans by $71.2 million, a 44 percent reduction.

Bush sent nearly half our National Guard troops and high-water Humvees to fight in an unnecessary war in Iraq. Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Paris in New Orleans, noted a year ago, "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq."

An Editor and Publisher article Wednesday said the Army Corps of Engineers "never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security - coming at the same time as federal tax cuts - was the reason for the strain," which caused a slowdown of work on flood control and sinking levees.

"This storm was much greater than protection we were authorized to provide," said Alfred C. Naomi, a senior project manager in the New Orleans district of the corps.

Unlike in Cuba, where homeland security means keeping the country secure from deadly natural disasters as well as foreign invasions, Bush has failed to keep our people safe. "On a fundamental level," Paul Krugman wrote in yesterday's New York Times, "our current leaders just aren't serious about some of the essential functions of government. They like waging war, but they don't like providing security, rescuing those in need or spending on prevention measures. And they never, ever ask for shared sacrifice."

During the 2004 election campaign, vice presidential candidate John Edwards spoke of "the two Americas." It seems unfathomable how people can shoot at rescue workers. Yet, after the beating of Rodney King aired on televisions across the country, poor, desperate, hungry people in Watts took over their neighborhoods, burning and looting. Their anger, which had seethed below the surface for so long, erupted. That's what's happening now in New Orleans. And we, mostly white, people of privilege, rarely catch a glimpse of this other America.

"I think a lot of it has to do with race and class," said Rev. Calvin O. Butts III, pastor of the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. "The people affected were largely poor people. Poor, black people."

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin reached a breaking point Thursday night. "You mean to tell me that a place where you probably have thousands of people that have died and thousands more that are dying every day, that we can't figure out a way to authorize the resources we need? Come on, man!"

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff had boasted earlier in the day that FEMA and other federal agencies have done a "magnificent job" under the circumstances.

But, said, Nagin, "They're feeding the people a line of bull, and they are spinning and people are dying. Get off your asses and let's do something!"

When asked about the looting, the mayor said that except for a few "knuckleheads," it is the result of desperate people trying to find food and water to survive.

Nagin blamed the outbreak of violence and crime on drug addicts who have been cut off from their drug supplies, wandering the city, "looking to take the edge off their jones."

When Hurricane Ivan hit Cuba, no curfew was imposed; yet, no looting or violence took place. Everyone was in the same boat.

Fidel Castro, who has compared his government's preparations for Hurricane Ivan to the island's long-standing preparations for an invasion by the United States, said, "We've been preparing for this for 45 years."

On Thursday, Cuba's National Assembly sent a message of solidarity to the victims of Hurricane Katrina. It says the Cuban people have followed closely the news of the hurricane damage in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, and the news has caused pain and sadness. The message notes that the hardest hit are African-Americans, Latino workers, and the poor, who still wait to be rescued and taken to secure places, and who have suffered the most fatalities and homelessness. The message concludes by saying that the entire world must feel this tragedy as its own.
 
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