Gun Control

Bro, nobody's even bothering checking them out. Might as well post the lyrics, or something.
Fun thing is that I even know the song and the episode because I watched and enjoyed the show myself. Nothing wrong with that, but it's funny how much he's pissed when he gets made fun of :D
Given that he was literally advocating for a classless, stateless society, he was more anti-gubment than even the US.

Libertarians need to get on this guy's level.
But then they'd have to edit all the blaming of Marxists from their texts. So much work to find a new scapegoat.
And you'd need to actually read and understand Marx to understand all of that, and when you read Marx you catch Lurralaids and thus the texts are taboo. Thoughtcrime IS death.
 
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I would have always guessed that those brownies would be in favour of communism.



"An equal society without discrimination" ... turns out they are leftist luberals.

Oh boy ...

 
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Fun thing is that I even know the song and the episode because I watched and enjoyed the show myself. Nothing wrong with that, but it's funny how much he's pissed when he gets made fun of :D

But then they'd have to edit all the blaming of Marxists from their texts. So much work to find a new scapegoat.
And you'd need to actually read and understand Marx to understand all of that, and when you read Marx you catch Lurralaids and thus the texts are taboo. Thoughtcrime IS death.
*sigh*

What's the point in talking to you when you're all "Hurr durr ur mad! U get so mad when ur made fun of!" and "Teehee he only dislikes marxism and mexicans because they're his scapegoats"?

I've gone this long without asking, but... are you genuinely too stupid to understand any of my arguments?

Every time, with you liberals. Some post bullshit lies, others insult those who debunk them, others think "Ur just a troll, we don't wanna talk 2 u!" is an argument. None of you are interested in honest discussion because your shitty talkshow propaganda shows convinced you you're already right. Defending terrorism and pedophilia while blaming the human freedoms you hate for the continued evil of terrorists you endorse.

The absolute state of modern leftism.

By the way, throwback thursday: http://archive.is/sgafL
 
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The guy you're talking about studied physics and is currently conducting research in laser technology and material studies while bitching constantly about the chinese workers entering his company. He even made his own Fallout Zippo with a laser!

I think the issue is clearly not on his side of the argument.
 
The guy you're talking a about studied physics and is currently conduting research in laser technology and material studies. He made his own Fallout Zippo with a laser!

I think the issue is clearly not on his side of the argument.
Cute.

Now go back a few pages, and read the posts of his you're defending here.

Tell me there are no problems with a crybaby who thinks "Haha u have a pony avatar", "Typical right-wingers just use marxism as their latest strawman like liberalism. at least they aren't blaming jews any more haha!", "Haha I made u so mad!!! XDDDD" and "U made no arguments, u have da big dumdum" are more valid arguments than "If gun-free zones worked, there would be no school shootings".
 
Serious question though, are you mildly autistic? It seems that you're kinda oblivious or unaware that most of us here are just more or less messing around with you. Most of the time it's kinda funn to read your ramblings.

Just saying.
 
Anyway, back on topic:

Remember last year when protesters marched down emancipation park literally chanting "Blood and Soil", spraying counter-protesters with mace?: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-with-torches-encircles-counter-protest-group, remember how two days later a neo-nazi drove his car in to a crowd of people injuring 19 and killing 1? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/12/virginia-unite-the-right-rally-protest-violence

I guarantee you that every one of those neo-nazis has been sizing up the left. These people are falling for propaganda day by day telling them that leftists are here to wipe out their race, and on the same note they are portraying leftists as being weak "beta" "soy boy" "cucks" who won't fight back.

I'd argue that really, for their own safety, leftists, especially ones from minority backgrounds, need to get armed. The far right has been growing at alarming rates recently, and how long will it be until something like Charlotsville happens again? These people probably believe they can attack and provoke the left all they want, and the left, being unarmed and anti-gun would be unable to do shit about it.

Now, obviously the left shouldn't be the ones to fire the first shot, but sending a strong message that if the far-right tries to make things violent we have the capacity to shoot back seems paramount to make sure that nobody else gets killed.
 
*sigh*

What's the point in talking to you when you're all "Hurr durr ur mad! U get so mad when ur made fun of!" and "Teehee he only dislikes marxism and mexicans because they're his scapegoats"?

I've gone this long without asking, but... are you genuinely too stupid to understand any of my arguments?

Every time, with you liberals. Some post bullshit lies, others insult those who debunk them, others think "Ur just a troll, we don't wanna talk 2 u!" is an argument. None of you are interested in honest discussion because your shitty talkshow propaganda shows convinced you you're already right. Defending terrorism and pedophilia while blaming the human freedoms you hate for the continued evil of terrorists you endorse.

The absolute state of modern leftism.

By the way, throwback thursday: http://archive.is/sgafL
And I'll ask you again: Are you dense? Are you retarded? Do you have autism the likes of which not even God has ever seen? I'm not going to argue against you for gun control because I'm against gun control. I've made that clear, but apparently that doesn't get into the sorry little peanut of your brain. I'm also not a liberal, at least not in the modern sense of the word. You'd probably call me a libertarian for the most part, if you actually bothered to use your brain every once in a while.
My part here is just to make fun of you because you are genuinely an idiot who just makes an ass of himself, and I hope that at some point you'll just go away on your own. You're a complete mental dungbeetle, and while I for the most part agree with you on gun control being pointless, that doesn't keep me from recognizing that you are a mental dungbeetle.
Again. I'm against gun control. I stated that often and clearly. As much as I have stated that I hate modern "liberals". But I suspect you have a problem with telling people apart. Maybe that's why you like ponies with easily recognizable features and marks imprinted on them? Because with them everything is clear cut and easy to distinguish?
Are humans too hard for you?
 
I'd argue that really, for their own safety, leftists, especially ones from minority backgrounds, need to get armed. The far right has been growing at alarming rates recently, and how long will it be until something like Charlotsville happens again? These people probably believe they can attack and provoke the left all they want, and the left, being unarmed and anti-gun would be unable to do shit about it.

Now, obviously the left shouldn't be the ones to fire the first shot, but sending a strong message that if the far-right tries to make things violent we have the capacity to shoot back seems paramount to make sure that nobody else gets killed.

No, I don't think (we) leftists should ever arm our selfs in a democratic society. If anything leftists should stay on a more pacifist and moderate path holding up democratic values and virtues while always keeping a debate going, staying true to progressivism and an open and inclusive society. Getting weapons in case that the right is coming for us, will only lead to more polarisation within the society. There is no scenario where that is going to end well for the left in the US. But that's just my opinion. If the right ever gets so powerfull that they can openly attack anyone without fearing the authorities, than it's because they have become the authorities. Fighting the right on their ground if you so will, will never be a winning move for the left and will only serve the right to gain even more power and influence, because now they would actually have a somewhat legitimate reason. There is a historical context in which the nazis took over the Weimar Republic and how they managed to make so many centrists and conservatives side with them up till it was to late.

The least thing you want to end up with is a society that resembles the Weimar Republic in its last days, where extreme leftists and rightwingers eventually start to fight each other in the streets, it really doesn't matter in the end which side shoot first. Dealing with viollence has to be left to the authorities, and if they do not manage it correctly then it has to be exposed to the public. We can take civil rights movements as example here, which achieved their largest victores in the US at least, not trough viollence and arming themselfs, but by marching to washington with 100.000 of people supporting them as a peacefull protest or exposing the pure viollence and hatred of the other side by marches like in Selma and showing it to the public.

Charlotsville for example was a huge setback to the alt-right movement and extreme right in particular, characters like Richard Spencer have spend a lot of time to gain acceptance with more moderate groups and infiltrating the so called 'sceptics-community', which is now so far up in the right winger spectrum, that they start to defend the 'jewish question' against any kind of criticism and where morons like Sargon of akkad don't even realize who they support and why they attract so many anti-semites. Turns out the public doesn't like it much when people screasm "Blood and Soil!" or "Jews are not going to replace us!" while wielding torches. All this dogwhisling and making the alt-right and their concepts appear more moderate is their entry into the general public, that's their tactic how they want to become more mainstream, spreading their messages trough memes and convincing people that's it's 'OK' to question the Holocaust and doing other things that would be usually seen as morally bankrupt like separating children from their parents for illegal border crossing. But the answer often is, it's just beeing a sceptic after all! Hell Richard Spencer himself said it several times that this is exactly their tactic how to convince people of their more extreme positions and how Charlotsville was a mistake for them. And then suddenly you find your self siding with race realistis, white supremacists and groups advocating the ethno-state. I find it very interesting how often people siding with the right describe them selfs as sceptics and informed but never apply the same standards and scepticism to their own sources and bias as they do with informations they find contradicting to their own world view.

Tha's not scepticism, that's simply living in an echo chaimber.
 
I guess "leftists should arm themselves" depends on how radical you are. Marx saw the left as a revolutionary movement that needed to overthrow the government. But now the left is in power more or mess, at least compared to Marx' times, so a pacifist way might now be the way to go.

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lol no one called you anti semetic
He believes I called him antisemitic even
though that was never my intention, which I made quite clear in my opinion. But just like the SJWs he loves to be a victim.
 
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*Shrugs* Societies and laws can change. There are many historical examples for it. The last 250 years have been a steady progress for inclusion, equality and improvements for minorities gaining equal rights. Who would have thought 100 years ago that homosexuals would not only get equal rights, but also legal marriage, nationwide. Things that seem impossible now, might become normal in 50 years.

We fought a war when the North tried to make us stop using Slaves because they were moving towards industrialization and the South was not. The war was based on slavery but parties behind the scene also made it about something else. Individual states wanted the right to govern how their territory would be changed. Some things impacted other states more than the rest. Namely slavery was a primary economical tool of the South, not the North, so of course they wanted to get rid of it. Why does this matter?

Because the founding of our country in 1776 led us to a never ending series of conflicts against Empires that were around a hell of a lot longer than ours. We struggled to survive and fought amongst ourselves on how best to do that, until we started killing each other. One side started to get too much power and the other side was afraid it was Britain all over again. We fought a Civil War based on abolishing slavery AND CIVIL LIBERTY. That last part is the key. Civil Liberty is what the GUN CONTROL debate is about today, based on similar values, and concepts established and fought over 200 + years ago.

So you go to Georgia and tell them to stop using these such-and-such magazines because you are from the North and you know better. Go right the fuck ahead. It will never happen. If Georgia does not agree to it. Fuck the FEDERAL government and their laws anyway. Weed is legal in California which is making billions of dollars, but the Feds come in and seize their shit. Is that good for CALIFORNIA or WASHINGTON D.C?

Neither. It's good for the assholes that confiscated the shit and got new night vision goggles and armored vehicles and helicopters as a result of it. Every party in this country is out for themselves; cops, politicians, poor, minorities, holy rollers, gangs...
Almost makes you wish for WW3 so billions of the Earth's population can be extinguished, fulfilling the elites long held dream of world domination :twisted:

Do you at least see how STATES RIGHTS tie into this though?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_era

You say "Well the Feds should come in and jack boot around a bit."

Gun control is not just about gun control. It never was. It is why politics gets dragged into the shit every time. The more I read about what we were taught in school about our history, the more I want to stay inside, lock the door, and never come out.
 
Hoo-ee, I sure love archiving pages.

I guess "leftists should arm themselves" depends on how radical you are. Marx saw the left as a revolutionary movement that needed to overthrow the government. But now the left is in power more or mess, at least compared to Marx' times, so a pacifist way might now be the way to go.

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He believes I called him antisemitic even
though that was never my intention, which I made quite clear in my opinion. But just like the SJWs he loves to be a victim.
*Laughs*

I said they both engage in identity politics, not that they both aim at the same targets or that it would lead to the same outcome. Mind you, people runing around complaining about bathrooms and screeching their lungs out about Trump, burning cars and smashing windows in and all that are silly and some are outright criminals, but they are not comparable with people that actually want a genocide or following an ideology that would lead to it, when you think it trough.

There is no KKK on the political left or even something that's remotely comparable with it as organisation, even if we take the Antifa, and sometimes people even compare BLM to the KKK which is absolute nonsense - not to mention that BLM isn't even a 'leftist' movement and just a civil rights movement at best. I mean, what would it mean if someone seriously tried to make the US into some kind of ethno state? If we follow some of the more popular right wing rhetoric/white supremacy ideas. Let's face it, there is no peacefull way to make that happen, regardless what some right wingers say or believe. This idea that it would be some kind of equivlance is missleading and historicaly grounded on extreme conservatives and right wingers building the left up as a 'scare-crow'. Hence why I usually like to get to the bare definitions of left wing and right wing ideology:

Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy.[1][2][3][4] It typically involves a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others (prioritarianism) as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished (by advocating for social justice).[1] The term left-wing can also refer to "the radical, reforming, or socialist section of a political party or system".[5]

Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal or desirable,[1][2][3] typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics or tradition.[4]:p. 693, 721[5][6][7][8][9][page needed] Hierarchy and inequality may be viewed as natural results of traditional social differences[10][11] or the competition in market economies.[12][13] The term right-wing can generally refer to "the conservative or reactionary section of a political party or system".[14]

Just to make this clear, yes there are shit heads, criminals, vandals and even terrorists on the left side and yes they do deserve the full punishment of the law, but I am not talking about individuals here but the ideology and the political spectrum. As a matter of fact, you will have a very hard time finding people advocating gay rights, same sex marriage, women's rights activists, anti-racists and civil rights activist to be on the right/far right campaiging for equality and social equality. It's stupid to call everyone a racist or all instutions racist, we're not living in the 1950s anymore, but it is also true that there are still a lot inequalities present and that discrimination is still a reality. It's simply silly to think there is some equivalency here, infact it's one of the oldest tricks in the book of the extreme right to paint the left as 'just the same' which they have to fight - aka: the extreme right is the answer to the extreme left!. For example, to be a leftist dictator you have to become authoritarian, where as authoritarianism is an inherent part of the right and they pose a much larger threat to our democracies, at least in the current political climate that's heavily polarized. I just want to remind you, that some right wingers voted against Paul Ryans health care 'reform', because it wasn't extreme enough for them, this is the kind of political spectrum we're really dealing with here, and neither Obama or Hillary are an represenation of the left or progressivism, Hillary is a neo-conserative and Obama a neo-liberal. Right now, the left has no real political representation in US politicas, the closest you might have are people like Bernie Sanders who rather qualify as Social Democrats. This alone highlights how far main-stream politics has moved to the right, where the Democrats today could qualify as the Republicans of the 1980s.

There is no equivalance between the political left and right and by just looking at the fringe groups within it and the lunatics on each side, it's completely distorting what those movements are where wel just end up with "The left is all for illegal migrants flooding us and the right wants secure borders!". But it's far far more nuanced than that, you can be a leftist and for secure borders too, but if people just want an excuse to spout their racist nonsense, well then they shouldn't be surprised if they are called out on it.
Throwback fucking Thursday.

 
We fought a war when the North tried to make us stop using Slaves because they were moving towards industrialization and the South was not. The war was based on slavery but parties behind the scene also made it about something else. Individual states wanted the right to govern how their territory would be changed. Some things impacted other states more than the rest. Namely slavery was a primary economical tool of the South, not the North, so of course they wanted to get rid of it. Why does this matter?

Because the founding of our country in 1776 led us to a never ending series of conflicts against Empires that were around a hell of a lot longer than ours. We struggled to survive and fought amongst ourselves on how best to do that, until we started killing each other. One side started to get too much power and the other side was afraid it was Britain all over again. We fought a Civil War based on abolishing slavery AND CIVIL LIBERTY. That last part is the key. Civil Liberty is what the GUN CONTROL debate is about today, based on similar values, and concepts established and fought over 200 + years ago..

If the south wanted to catch up to the north they should have kept up with the program instead of soley relying on imported slave labor for their economy and they should have tried diversifying it. I believe there is a saying to not put all of your eggs in the same basket or something
 
"Liberal" has a completely different meaning now in the US, basically the opposite of what it is everywhere else.
But it's good that the word exists, because it's good to have some variety in your rants about why shit's shit. Always blaming the Communists/Marxists is boring, and blaming the Jews is out of style at the moment. I mean, it's all the same in the end, but at least the word salad gets a bit of a different dressing.
Throwback Thursday.

Remember, nothing pisses off the lying leftists more than having evidence of them saying things they're currently claiming they never said.
 
If the south wanted to catch up to the north they should have kept up with the program instead of soley relying on imported slave labor for their economy and they should have tried diversifying it. I believe there is a saying to not put all of your eggs in the same basket or something

Efforts were being made to do that, but where in the South do you see a New York City?
 
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