yfk12
Degenerate who belongs on a cross
But is it mandatory?
Gun Control
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HydroFlame
The Vanishing Act
No, it's optional. I'm not sure how many people would get on board with mandatory gun safety classes. There would probably be a revolution. Still nice of them to do that.
yfk12
Degenerate who belongs on a cross
Again, that kind of thing is required to get a driver's licence. I don't see why it's unreasonable to expect the same for a gun permit. Also, in my experience, the people who most need gun safety classes are generally the people least likely to make use of them.
HydroFlame
The Vanishing Act
Good point. I don't know how people are with guns in your state, but I'm certain not many people here would take gun safety classes even if they were offered and free of charge. And if there was a law that you couldn't own a gun without taking the classes... oh, boy...
I just see it as being smart and responsible. And for everyone that owns a gun, especially with kids, for goodness sake, keep them locked up or hidden away.
@DarkCorp Sorry for my ignorance. I'm trying to educate myself, ha ha. So for example, an AR15 is SEMI-automatic. One shot with each pull of the trigger. I don't have a problem with those types of guns, because as you said, they're basically no different than a standard hunting rifle. It's the ones that continuously fire when the trigger is squeezed that I'm skeptical about. Those are the ones that are illegal? I read somewhere that you could own this type of gun as long as it was made before 19-- I forget the exact year, but maybe my source wasn't reliable.
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R.Graves
Confirmed Retard
except lol no because a gun isn't nearly as compicated as a car or road safety. like wtf dude those things aren't nearly comparable. on one hand you've got a potential death machine (see truck of peace) that you're gonna be using nearly every day where you're gonna hafta understand traffic flow and adjust accodrdingly and signs and turn signals and blah blah blah and on the other you've got this thing you're barely gonna use in comparison where all you have to do to avoid an accident is not shoot people.
plbbbt. they wouldn't do it if it didn't work.
thats actually fair. but honeslty a small frisking procedure is a small invasion of privacy at best. they might find out you're carrying a condom big whoop.
If you want a hunting license in Germany (which is the easiest way to get a permit for a rifle, I guess) you do have to take a lengthy exam not only on hunting regulations, but also on gun safety and handling. Good luck on getting something like a concealed carry permit for handgun, you need to have good reason for that in order to get one, i.e. your job as a security guard or something like that requires it. So at best you can get a rifle and a shotgun for hunting, handguns maybe for sports shooting. Home defense is basically impossible.
yfk12
Degenerate who belongs on a cross
There are 400-600 reported accidental gun deaths and 14,000-19,000 injuries per year in the US. Obviously not nearly as high as for motor vehicles, but high enough to be a problem. So I'd still say it's fair to say that we significantly increase the steps to acquire a firearm. Thing like more thorough background checks, instruction on using a gun responsibly, teaching gun owners to properly lock up their guns, that sort of thing.
As for cars, I imagine that those statistics if we implemented simple measures like mandatory driver's ed, improving the quality of aforementioned driver's ed, and having harsher penalties for distracted driving.
Which is why many states don't do it.plbbbt. they wouldn't do it if it didn't work.
HydroFlame
The Vanishing Act
Not allowing guns for home protection seems a little strict. I just did a Google of mass shootings in Germany and Wikipedia lists killings there since 1945, and it's only at eleven. If that's accurate, good on your country if you really do have that few shootings!
R.Graves
Confirmed Retard
600? that's literally not a problem. 7 times more people die from choking each year. you wanna have classes on food safety too?
yfk12
Degenerate who belongs on a cross
Absolutely. Choking is a serious threat to our way of life that needs to be solved immediately.
Also, most chokers are old people who'll be dead soon anyway, when most accidental gun victims are kids. And the accidental shootings are a fairly small part of the picture. Most mass shooters either used their parents' guns or bought them from a store, so requiring people to apply for a license and teaching them to lock up their guns would go a long way towards stopping that.
R.Graves
Confirmed Retard
and kids are the worst people on the planet anyway so....
i actually agree with this here. you should be able to just walk into a walmart and buy a gun right then and there but having to flash a special identification of some sort would be sensible.
bleh if you own a gun for home protection then locking the guin up would be absolutely retarded wouldn't it?
"oh boy you're gonna get it"
"just let me open this safe here"
but seriously my grandad had guns all over the fucking house just chilling and there were no accidental deaths to speak of. wanna know why? because i wan't a retard that played with guns. and kid that does that just has natural selection coming to them.
DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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Of course I am for background checks.
One can own a fully auto 'machine gun', but it depends on a couple of caveats. The most important one is not being a 'prohibited person'. This is kind of your catch all felon, crazy, violent, etc. Then, it goes down to whether it is outlawed at the state level. Then, it also must be manufactured before 1986.
Thing is, these weapon rules are pretty much close to what you euros have. Prohibitive person. Full auto weapons here routinely run around $10K +. Combined with the taxes and government registration by the ATF, makes full auto weapons prohibitively expensive. Also, like Crni says, the 1986 ban will pretty much guarantee that full auto weapons will eventually vanish since there is so little of them in the first place and no new ones can be purchased.
Of course I am for background checks.
One can own a fully auto 'machine gun', but it depends on a couple of caveats. The most important one is not being a 'prohibited person'. This is kind of your catch all felon, crazy, violent, etc. Then, it goes down to whether it is outlawed at the state level. Then, it also must be manufactured before 1986.
Thing is, these weapon rules are pretty much close to what you euros have. Prohibitive person. Full auto weapons here routinely run around $10K +. Combined with the taxes and government registration by the ATF, makes full auto weapons prohibitively expensive. Also, like Crni says, the 1986 ban will pretty much guarantee that full auto weapons will eventually vanish since there is so little of them in the first place and no new ones can be purchased.
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You KNOW they could then just take them and use them against you, yeah?
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That's why you sleep with a gun under your pillow, it's easy to reach and nobody can get it before you when someone breaks in at night.
yfk12
Degenerate who belongs on a cross
And when the kid uses the gun to shoot up a school, is that also natural selection?
R.Graves
Confirmed Retard
no but it is when the kid kills himself. the shooting itself it just one of god's many forms of population control.
that's assuming they know where the gun is and that they didn't bring one of their own (because why wouldn't they?) and that's also assuming you don't have more than one gun. but what's your point? guns have no loyalty? he might use the gun against me? yeah and i might shoot him before he does. what a non argument.
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If you've got weapons hidden around your house in completely unintuitive ways isn't that not getting either the benefits of safekeeping or having them out in the open, considering it's hard for you to get them in a pinch and not impossible for an assaulter to come across them? And how would you exactly have the advantage of surprise on assailant, if I may ask? If they're not the thieves from Home Alone, that is.
R.Graves
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okay so lets ignore all your dumb "hide the gun nonsense" and lemme ask you a question
how does not having a gun within your reach help you with self defense? are you better able to defend yourself with or without a gun?
BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
Change your fucking avatar back. This is blasphemy.
R.Graves
Confirmed Retard
why does everyone always say that?