Gun Control

I'm reading some of these stories about the El Paso-shooting, just terrible stuff. Seems the shooter specifically targeted Latinos, so...yea. He was a Trump fan carrying out Trump's orders.
I'm reading Dayton shooting stories, just as terrible stuff as El Paso shooting. Betts was self-described on twatter as a diehard leftist, anime fan, and U.S. immigration administrative hater loathing U.S. customs enforcement agents as a "monsters". Pretty much @Walpknut calibre lunatic, who kept spamming these "rape cages" stories all over TO and NMA recently. Walpknut is new Betts, possibly hoarding guns and preparing himself for killing spree right now while watching some weird weeaboo stuff and drawing shitty art.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/d...-labeled-self-a-leftist-on-twitter/ar-AAFp4qm
 
I won the gun control thread and you come in to fuck it up so more. You're dumb.


Why read stories about shootings when you can participate in your own?


Ever had a fear-based gore boner?
 
Weak. You should watch the Russian tank brigades go into Georgia on liveleak.
 
Fuck its just so hard to leave this thread alone. So far I am waiting to hear how that guy in the midland/Odessa shootings even got his gun. He was denied earlier for failure to pass his criminal background check.
 
If you see Gun Control as Fun Control it actually makes a lot more sense why some people are arguing so vehemently against it.
 
Fun Control
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If every citizen owned one of these pistols...well there would be less gun violence for sure. Nobody wants their fucking arms and legs blown off.
 
Fuck its just so hard to leave this thread alone. So far I am waiting to hear how that guy in the midland/Odessa shootings even got his gun. He was denied earlier for failure to pass his criminal background check.
He got it from a private seller it seems. In some states they are not required to do a back ground check.
 
I fear this is the kind of direction this will take and it is only the beginning.

It will be at the very least interesting to see what cultural changes will happen in he next few decades. A lot of high school students which grew up with drills regarding school shooters and sensitized for the issue will make their way in to this society. They will vote, become members of companies and political groups they are a growing demographic. Policies will be formed eventually. On the other side you have gun supporters with strong political connections and influence and many citizens which agree with them. This will divide the country in some respects, well more then it already does now.
 
Is there really a "right" and "left" in America I wonder? Don't forget to separate real polarisation from perceived ones. For example the left plays almost no role in American politics, policies or decision making. Culturally it looks a bit different I admit particularly when you're looking at certain artistic circles and a few groups out there. But I have yet to see a famous democrat that really shares my values as a leftist out there, like the nationalisation of Facebook or Google for example or seizing the means of production. And even Hollywood, which is known for driving multiculturalism, leftist values and so on as some say is much more about money and sales. I mean com on it always was. They are not pushing for diversity because of some moral or ethical obligation they do it because their business model changed because the American market is not the largest growing market for entertainment anymore. They want to sell movies in Asia, South America, Russia, India and so on. Markets with billions of people out there. And that simply doesn't work that well when every movie is about AMERICA! FUCK YEAH COMING TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING DAY YEAH! Money, most importantly trough investors from China decides for the most part what goes on in Hollywood these days. And that's hardly a secret.

Don't get me wrong. There are for sure topics where Americans and the population are divided, no doubts about it. But when we look at some issues the opinions are not that far apart here as it might seem. Not with guns for example. Depending on who you ask and what poll you have the range between the answers can be huge. Then you take a different poll and they can be very close together. For example if you asked people if semiautomatic rifles with high capacity magazines should be banned or if you ask if people with mental issues should have access to guns. I am pretty sure the first question will show a very wide range of different answers and the second one will have a large majority of people agreeing that some people shouldn't have access to weapons. Like those with severe mental issues or those with criminal records. However when you look at it some have a real benefit from this "there are two sides here!" thinking. Like those that sell guns. Gun sales often spike after each mass shooting. And not just with pro-gun citizens. It happens with a lot of groups actually. After the massacre in a gay club the number of LGBTQ groups which bought weapons skyrocketed. Is it really so far fetched to believe that some companies out there profiteer from this polarisation and rather contribute to it than actually advocate for more reasoning, less panicking and sensible solutions?


And this is the thing with gun debates in politics. I feel we hear for the most part only the fringe positions, the extremes and they are held up like the dominant opinions or that this is a case with a clear black and white scenario, like are you pro or anti slavery! Decide! Are you for or against fascism! Decide! But when you talk about guns, gun culture, gun laws and regulations this isn't necessarily an issue that can be described in such a simplistic manner. Even without the issue of mass shootings which is after all a relatively new occurrence. Sadly this is way to often forgotten in such debates.
 
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