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Pete Hines was once again asked about Fallout 3 (and related topics) returning much the same answer as usual:<blockquote>We don’t want to say that the combat works like this, or this is what the interface will look like… we want to point and say ‘there’ [points at imaginary TV screen], that’s what it looks like and it plays like that. It’s easier for us and it’s easier for you. It’s easier to explain to someone when they can see the game being played.

Even with Oblivion, it was the same thing – we prefer the showing rather than the telling.</blockquote>360Gamer adds:<blockquote> Although Hines wouldn’t be drawn on a date for the first public showing of Fallout 3, one of our insider sources let slip that it was likely to be during the new format E3 videogame tradeshow in July, if not before.</blockquote>Link: 360Gamer talks to Pete Hines.

Thanks Briosafreak.
 
Even with Oblivion, it was the same thing – we prefer the showing rather than the telling.
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Why is it so difficult to explain such a simple combat system/interface without pointing on a screen? oO
 
Bunkermensch said:
Even with Oblivion, it was the same thing – we prefer the showing rather than the telling.
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Why is it so difficult to explain such a simple combat system/interface without pointing on a screen? oO
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That quote sort of gives an answer to the last paragraph of the "Glittering gems of hatred" article.
 
This is all about trolling (and ghei also), but from the deeper deeper bottom of my heart I seriously hope that Pete and Todd die the worst of the long, painful, horrible and terrorizing deaths of this world.
 
Me : Excuse me Pete, is this Kool-Aid cherry or grape?

Pete : 'There', that's what it looks like and thats what it tastes like. Explaining to you would just make things difficult. Drink it. Trust us. It’s easier for us and it’s easier for you.

Me : Pete, thanks for doing all my thinking for me! I hate getting all wrapped in that pesky "thinking" and "deciding" that I keep hearing about.


So is Peter like your name, or is that just what you suck?
 
Looks like this Hines fellow is doing to the public what Henry Ford once did, when asked about consumer choice - You can have any color Model-T Ford you want as long as it's basic black...
 
A post-apocalyptic RPG running on the same game engine as Oblivion and created by the same team? We’ve booked our ticket already.
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argh - what a bunch of cocksucking morons.
That's what I fear the most - the "great" Oblivion as a prototype for Fallout 3. If common expectations are going in that direction, great Fallout fan Todd will humbly satisfy such n00bish imaginations.
Where the fuck is written that every game has to become a clone of braindead Oblivion? Oblivionviously these stupid guys haven't any idea of what Fallout is.
 
Peter Hines says basically nothing in an interview (again), and people are still surprised and/or vitriolic about it?

Perhaps Bethesda have suddenly come up with a completely new way of implementing tactical stat-based combat that can't easily be described.... erm...

At least he's consistent.

I don't see why people are complaining about Peter Hines being so tight-lipped, because whatever combat system they've chosen is going to be in the game by now, given that it informs every element of game design. Whether he tells us now or later, it isn't going to change a thing.

Akudin said:
Looks like this Hines fellow is doing to the public what Henry Ford once did, when asked about consumer choice - You can have any color Model-T Ford you want as long as it's basic black...
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Any game is designed in a specific manner, with specific immutable choices about things like combat systems. Fallout 3 isn't going to offer any less choice than most other games; it simply remains to be seen whether it is a useful combat system with fidelity to the series.

If it is a crap game with rubbish combat, a poor story, and few elements of roleplaying, then nobody's going to buy it.... erm...
 
Bernard Bumner said:
If it is a crap game with rubbish combat, a poor story, and few elements of roleplaying, then nobody's going to buy it.... erm...
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Oblivion? Morrowind? Major commercial and "critical" successes. The console kiddies are whose driving Bethesda, not us.
 
Bernard Bumner said:
If it is a crap game with rubbish combat, a poor story, and few elements of roleplaying, then nobody's going to buy it.... erm...
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False! Oblivion sold a lot... :roll:
 
Pete Hines said:
… we want to point and say ‘there’ [points at imaginary TV screen], that’s what it looks like ...
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FO3 looks like a TV screen :shock: Cant wait to play it, all this time I thought it was gonna be on radio

Of course notice that it was an imaginary TV screen not an imaginary computer screen, thus we can safely say that FO3 will only be available on consoles ...
 
Wild_qwerty said:
Pete Hines said:
… we want to point and say ‘there’ [points at imaginary TV screen], that’s what it looks like ...
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FO3 looks like a TV screen :shock: Cant wait to play it, all this time I thought it was gonna be on radio

Of course notice that it was an imaginary TV screen not an imaginary computer screen, thus we can safely say that FO3 will only be available on consoles ...
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Don't overthink. Who wrote that particular sentence is probably a person very used to consoles and that kind of trash, so it's no wonder he said TV instead of screen... :roll: In other word's, those words are not Pete's.
 
Morbus said:
Don't overthink. Who wrote that particular sentence is probably a person very used to consoles and that kind of trash, so it's no wonder he said TV instead of screen... :roll: In other word's, those words are not Pete's.
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This makes me wonder if he was actually pointing at the concept art on a wall somewhere...
 
Uncle Pete said:
We don’t want to say that the combat works like this, or this is what the interface will look like… we want to point and say ‘there’ [points at imaginary TV screen], that’s what it looks like and it plays like that. It’s easier for us and it’s easier for you. It’s easier to explain to someone when they can see the game being played.
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Translation: After observing a mass of shit the size of New Jersey sailing through the air, in a graceful arc towards the fanblades, I concluded that that we should delay the official affirmation that Fallout 3 revolves around an Xbox360 user interface and a realtime twitch combat system until the 11th hour, at which time the potential for dissent-burying hype will have reached its climax and I can more comfortably tapdance around the lynch mobs.


360gamer said:
Created by Tim Cain and published by Interplay, the first two games in the series (part two game out a year later, in 1998) struck a memorable chord with RPG buffs, due to its post-1950s era design and, for the time, revolutionary character system.
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Competent journalism + the gaming media = synonym!!


Bernard Bumner said:
Any game is designed in a specific manner, with specific immutable choices about things like combat systems. Fallout 3 isn't going to offer any less choice than most other games; it simply remains to be seen whether it is a useful combat system with fidelity to the series.
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Let me rephrase Akudin's surprisingly lucid moment: you can have any Fallout 3 you want, as long as it's Oblivion With Guns*.



*Coming soon to Xbox360("But I'm not even going to hint at that!", exclaims a laughing Pete Hines). Get your preorders ready now, kids!!!
 
Bethesda is just waiting for the game to have been up for pre-order for awhile before they release any information that may sway buyers decisions.

Once someone has pre-ordered Fallout 3, Im betting the % of those who cancel it will be very low, regardless of what game mechanic is unvieled.

Whereas someone who hasn't pre-ordered it and sees something not to their liking, will just choose not to buy it.

Therefore, for Bethesda, the longer they hold out, the more pre-orders they get, cancellations become less likely, and they make more money.

As for whether or not the game is going to be turn-based or real time.

How can there honestly still be speculation about this so long after the announcement? Its obvious as hell the game will be real time, and available on many different platforms (xbox,nintendo,playstation).

This is a given, regardless of how much they dance around it. It's fucking BETHESDA people.
 
I'll be checking out this game, but I certainly won't be pre-ordering it... and I most likely won't be buying it, that is unless BethSoft manage to make FO3 a halfway decent cRPG... yeah right!

The thing is I don't mind some FPS's, I liked Half-Life 2 and FEAR. If BethSoft are just going to make an FPS why don't they call it Fallout FPS? If it was a good FPS I'd probably even consider buying it. But don't go and make an FPS with stats and an inventory and then go and call it FO3.

Mick
 
i vow to preorder it if ::gasp:: what Pete SHOWS me is turn based, special, top down goodness ... hhahahaha agahhahaha :(
 
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