Doctor 0
Still Mildly Glowing
Yeah, most here have been searching for the ending days ago to see how shit it is. The people who will be rustled by this are located at Beth forums, Fallout subreddits, Twitter, ign comments section, etc
I Think We Need To Realize Something
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Still Mildly Glowing
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Basically where Bethesda rulz!
Pretty much.
Tuesday is gonna roll around and all of a sudden people are going to announce it's the greatest thing since canned bread.
Tuesday is gonna roll around and all of a sudden people are going to announce it's the greatest thing since canned bread.
Practicat
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
Bethesda, besides being master marketers, are master manipulators. Even the the most staunch of Bethesda fans dismissed the intro script leaked by Kotaku as fake, as they believed that it was so poorly written even for Bethesda. Now we have seen it is actually the final product, and the same such people have no complaints with it.
Chromevod
Nope.
Hold on, let me look through my Youtube history, someone here posted something that will satisfy all your desires...
Let's see here.
Ah, here we go.
Hope this helps!
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Dr Fallout
Centurion
Bravo mate! What a bloody stupid video!
I love the ending, reviewers give 'informed' decisions. AKA, BUY BETHESDA OR ELZ!
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Chromevod
Nope.
I'm not sure who posted it first here, but it's rather telling. I can understand if people don't like being spoiled. That's totally fine. This sort of... moral outrage is pushing it a bit though.
Poor Bethesda.
I'm sure their execs are having trouble sleeping on their piles of money, surrounded by many beautiful women/men because of all of this.
I'm sure their execs are having trouble sleeping on their piles of money, surrounded by many beautiful women/men because of all of this.
phipboy
Newly elected overseer
Oh yeah looking back I found one of those videos through the recommendations for the other. That's why I thought they were the same. Both look pretty cool but damn that Ground Zero project looks pretty freaking good for a mod made by a couple of guys.
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PossibleCabbage
Vault 22 Survivor
Research has actually shown that being spoiled on the ending does not actually harm people's enjoyment of something, in fact in some cases it enhances it. A lot of "spoiler aversion" is simply the irrational belief that being spoiled will harm your enjoyment of something. I mean, generally for stories the value is in "how we get to the ending" not "what happens in the end"; the latter is pretty much the sole value only in moralistic fables and the like.
Chromevod
Nope.
Well I'm the type of person who reads the last page of a book first, then goes back to read the rest from start to finish. It usually works out pretty well for me.
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TorontoReign
Guest
It's a bit like knowing Darth Vader is Luke's father before you watch the movie - the movie still delivers.
5545Trey
Underground Deviant
If those people get spoiled, that is entirely on them. No one forces you to be spoiled by leaks of a video game.
Chromevod
Nope.
@5545Trey
Well, yes. Part of that understanding is that if people don't wish to have things spoiled for them, and they feel this passionately about them, then they should probably take the necessary steps to avoid spoilers. The leaks are going to happen no matter what. I may think that perhaps those who are doing the leak streams and whatnot are rather reckless due to their actions perhaps bringing Bethesda... and Bethesda's lawyers potentially into the mix, but that's no skin off my back.
But the backlash from the leaks as seen in that video are something that I would have thought would be limited to Bethesda themselves, as a company. Not people who are just a little miffed because they had something spoiled for them.
Well, yes. Part of that understanding is that if people don't wish to have things spoiled for them, and they feel this passionately about them, then they should probably take the necessary steps to avoid spoilers. The leaks are going to happen no matter what. I may think that perhaps those who are doing the leak streams and whatnot are rather reckless due to their actions perhaps bringing Bethesda... and Bethesda's lawyers potentially into the mix, but that's no skin off my back.
But the backlash from the leaks as seen in that video are something that I would have thought would be limited to Bethesda themselves, as a company. Not people who are just a little miffed because they had something spoiled for them.
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5545Trey
Underground Deviant
That still does not excuse excessive anger and bricking. I can understand the annoyance of having leaks constantly popping, but it should take a minimum amount of effort to just ignore them.
WarAlwaysChanges
First time out of the vault
Ok, that may seem like quite a thrill to you (and maybe others) but can you few (and let's be realistic here you FO4 naysayers are the minoroty) at least understand why the majority of people find this manner of combat unneccaptable in this day and age?
I know most of you don't think bethsoft pays you enough fan tribute but you should be happy there's any. It's because of people like Todd Howard that the franchise retains any resemblance to the fallouts of old. I've heard that most of the big wigs wanted to take fallout out of the "future 50's", which for me would take away a great deal of appeal.
They put it on the other side of the U.S. For a reason. To not desecrate what you people hold so near and dear, and so you guys complain. (Unfeasible you say) Yet when they do have some sort of reference to the old game (I love Harold) or a character you guys freak out and hate it.
Story is a matter of opinion and machanics (combat) are a matter of taste.
Too bad your personal preferences are in the minoroty and Bethesda is considered (by most) one of the best RPG makers.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
People only find it unacceptable because they have been coddled into expecting instant gratification by the increasingly lazier AAA developers. Just like how the most repetitive mindless music is the most popular, it's popularity doesn't make it good music nor does it further it's medium a single bit. Justin Bieber is propular, People just can't get enough of the Kardashians, are they also amazing?
I don't see how a loot shooter with a dialogue wheel and no Skills could even be considered to hold any resemblance to anything Fallout ever stood for, the only things it retains are the names and nothing more, they are only Fallout sequels in the shallowest of senses. They are what the Syndicate FPS and the TPS Xcom were to their original series, and if those could push back I don't see why we have to just "accept it" because a bunch of people with no respect for the originals say so.
I don't see how a loot shooter with a dialogue wheel and no Skills could even be considered to hold any resemblance to anything Fallout ever stood for, the only things it retains are the names and nothing more, they are only Fallout sequels in the shallowest of senses. They are what the Syndicate FPS and the TPS Xcom were to their original series, and if those could push back I don't see why we have to just "accept it" because a bunch of people with no respect for the originals say so.
5545Trey
Underground Deviant
The third paragraph I just bolded perfectly captures how little you actually know about us, otherwise, you would not make such baseless judgements.
I doubt anyone here would actually give a hoot if we are "minority", or any other BS you want to throw at us. I sure do not, as I satisfy my own free time playing games made by developers who show much more compassion and love for their own IPs than Bethesda ever had.
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GlowHound
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
I really don't know how you can point to Harold in 3 as something we should have appreciated.
The writing and dialogue was worse. Harold's jokes were reduced to "I call my head tree the wrong name because I think it's funny"(he makes this joke no less than three times, in Fallout 2 he makes it once).
And they had the tree overtake his entire body, literally rooting him to the DC wasteland so he could never appear anywhere else ever again without a retcon. It was tasteless and selfish doing that to a character that the original devs and the fans considered to be very very special.
They didn't need Harold. It just wasn't necessary. His inclusion wouldn't be hated if they had handled him with any care.
The writing and dialogue was worse. Harold's jokes were reduced to "I call my head tree the wrong name because I think it's funny"(he makes this joke no less than three times, in Fallout 2 he makes it once).
And they had the tree overtake his entire body, literally rooting him to the DC wasteland so he could never appear anywhere else ever again without a retcon. It was tasteless and selfish doing that to a character that the original devs and the fans considered to be very very special.
They didn't need Harold. It just wasn't necessary. His inclusion wouldn't be hated if they had handled him with any care.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
We hate Harold in FO3 because it's not the Harold we know.