If Fallout 4 had actual proper alternate endings.

Risewild said:
Todd always said in the past how he grew up playing RPG games he loved like the original Fallouts and Ultima games and stuff like that, he definitely knows what a RPG is :look:.
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So in any case, that probably means he's either a corporate sellout for Bethesda, or he's actually the unlikely hero, salvaging what remains of an RPG it has, and without him Fallout would be in an even worse position. I don't believe the latter is true but then again I've been surprised before.
 
and without him Fallout would be in an even worse position
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To be honest that is hard to imagine as Troika and several other developer studios also showed interest in purchasing the Fallout franchise.
I never really understood the reasoning of trying to appeal a rather niche franchises to the masses.
Sure because of the money, but if people do it for that there are much more profitable franchises that appeal to the most common gamer who doesn't care much about non Hollywood style story driven stuff.

Bethesda would have been much better off creating their own Borderlands/Mad Max style Post Apocalyptic franchise which they can put in things like robots, vehicles, mutants, and so on.

I think this last decade has shown us how much the Hollywood style sequel/prequel/remake/reboot has failed from a production quality point of view.

Sure people talk about Star Wars and Star Trek again for example, but this is not the audience that is going to keep these franchises going on by purchasing the spin off products like toys, comics, duvet cover, commemorative plates and so on. (and that is how studios usually make more money as they get a percentage of all the sales on these)

Bethesda can only keep their Fallout games alive as long as they keep pumping them out and there are new gamers that want to play what Bethesda is offering them.
But the more Fallout games become like everything else the more gamers might start to wonder why they should play this open-sandbox-game with wacky characters instead of the other open-sandbox-game with wacky characters that are much more popular.

I am sure Bethesda will be able to put out a few more Fallout games but it is not a lasting video game name.
Open-sandbox-games are a trend right now as several have been announced (No Man's Sky), but trends come and go, we saw that with FPS and RTS games. There is still an audience for these but it is definitely not the size anymore that it once was.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
To be honest that is hard to imagine as Troika and several other developer studios also showed interest in purchasing the Fallout franchise.
I never really understood the reasoning of trying to appeal a rather niche franchises to the masses.
Sure because of the money, but if people do it for that there are much more profitable franchises that appeal to the most common gamer who doesn't care much about non Hollywood style story driven stuff.

Bethesda would have been much better off creating their own Borderlands/Mad Max style Post Apocalyptic franchise which they can put in things like robots, vehicles, mutants, and so on.

I think this last decade has shown us how much the Hollywood style sequel/prequel/remake/reboot has failed from a production quality point of view.

Sure people talk about Star Wars and Star Trek again for example, but this is not the audience that is going to keep these franchises going on by purchasing the spin off products like toys, comics, duvet cover, commemorative plates and so on. (and that is how studios usually make more money as they get a percentage of all the sales on these)
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The simple logic behind what you just described is, if you take an old series and reboot it as something completely different to appeal to a larger audience, why even bother? The result is that the old fans get angry, and the new fans (the larger audience) are likely unaware of the old series anyway.

Make it a whole new IP instead. The old fans of that series don't get angry and might even peruse your IP. That's more potential consumers of your product than trying to get advertising value out of a brand no cares about.

The Dutch Ghost said:
Bethesda can only keep their Fallout games alive as long as they keep pumping them out and there are new gamers that want to play what Bethesda is offering them.
But the more Fallout games become like everything else the more gamers might start to wonder why they should play this open-sandbox-game with wacky characters instead of the other open-sandbox-game with wacky characters that are much more popular.

I am sure Bethesda will be able to put out a few more Fallout games but it is not a lasting video game name.
Open-sandbox-games are a trend right now as several have been announced (No Man's Sky), but trends come and go, we saw that with FPS and RTS games. There is still an audience for these but it is definitely not the size anymore that it once was.
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They can still adapt the series to whatever trend is popular? That's the common path being taken, and it is working dangerously well for countless publishers.

This will probably make me sound pretentious or hipster-ish, whatever the term is, but "I liked open-world games before they were popular". My favourite genre of games throughout my childhood was the open-world game, and I kept wishing that there should be more of them, shortly before the big shift came. Today, I often skip over new releases if they are open-world, just waiting until it stops being the AAA standard go-to genre for instant cash-ins.

I find it baffling how whichever genre is being milked the least tends to have the best come out of it. Ever since gaming moved out of the FPS safe zone and into the open-world one, FPS games have been getting better and open-world games getting worse.
 
They can still adapt the series to whatever trend is popular? That's the common path being taken, and it is working dangerously well for countless publishers.
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I like to think that when Bethesda for example turns the Fallout franchise into a racing game or a dating sim and call it an official sequel that even the fans of Fallout 3 and 4 will complain to Bethesda that that is not the game series they supported over all these years.
You of course have a point that something like this could probably happen. Warcraft started as a RTS before it become an MMO, and since then there has been no indication that Blizzard will ever make a game in the main series again, treating WOW as the main series instead.


I've actually talked to a fan of Fallout 3 (before Fallout 4 was ever announced) and I told him that there's more than one Fallout game and he was actually surprised.
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He did realize it read '3' at the end right? If even that went beyond him I honestly think he should attend lower school again as I think he might also missed out on other basic education and knowledge.
'3' usually implies there is a '1' and a '2' before it.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
He did realize it read '3' at the end right? If even that went beyond him I honestly think he should attend lower school again as I think he might also missed out on other basic education and knowledge.
'3' usually implies there is a '1' and a '2' before it.
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He noticed that but never actually looked up what other Fallouts there were and never cared to. He said "Fallout 3 is the best game he's ever played."
 
JO'Geran said:
Salem is just one house as far as I'm aware. Could do covenant tho.
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Salem was told to have been a big community and it's pretty obvious from the tons of ruined houses and marketplace.

You could say after the SS saved the old man there that Salem was rebuilt slowly but surely as the old man there became its leader, overseeing its rebuilding.

Maybe during the quest the man died and Salem died out slowly, becoming one more ghost town in the harsh wasteland.

Or if you never did the quest the man there fought valiantly but died after a long while, making the town a ghost town.
 
Knight In Leather Armor said:
Salem was told to have been a big community and it's pretty obvious from the tons of ruined houses and marketplace.

You could say after the SS saved the old man there that Salem was rebuilt slowly but surely as the old man there became its leader, overseeing its rebuilding.

Maybe during the quest the man died and Salem died out slowly, becoming one more ghost town in the harsh wasteland.

Or if you never did the quest the man there fought valiantly but died after a long while, making the town a ghost town.
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Good idea, I'll look in to it.
 
JO'Geran said:
Salem is just one house as far as I'm aware. Could do covenant tho.
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Here's an example.

"Weeks after the Institute was destroyed Barney Rook caught wind from traveling caravans spreading the news. He gave a chuckle and held Reba close, returning to his home. During his final days he spoke to many travelers and invited them to Salem. As Barney breathed his final breaths he looked out his window to a bustling, lively town he saw as a younger man, smiling, and passing away."
 
Sorry if it's cringeworthy but I was thinking that one of Curie's could've been like:

"After the sole survivor freed Curie from the secret lab inside Vault 81, she was put into a synth body where she became curious about living life as a human being. With help from the soul survivor she was able to experience some of those emotions after over 200 years of scientific research without human compassion, including how to care for someone close to her. Left behind was her life as just a robot and henceforth she began her newfound freedom as a new person."

Just wanted to give it a go, I'm not usually good at these things. :P
 
MercenarySnake said:
Sorry if it's cringeworthy but I was thinking that one of Curie's could've been like:

"After the sole survivor freed Curie from the secret lab inside Vault 81, she was put into a synth body where she became curious about living life as a human being. With help from the soul survivor she was able to experience some of those emotions after over 200 years of scientific research without human compassion, including how to care for someone close to her. Left behind was her life as just a robot and henceforth she began her newfound freedom as a new person."

Just wanted to give it a go, I'm not usually good at these things. :P
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I like it. I guess this would be the default f you finished Curie's personnal quest and didn't do much else. I was actually typing up her romance ending, something like this.

[Narration will be in Curie's voice]
"Curie had finally finished her research. After two hundred years of study and experiments she decided to lay down and contemplate on what she had done in her life. Then she began her research again, but not on the wasteland, but on a very special person in her life. She began researching topics which should be left to the mind and after a hard day of work, she slipped into bed with her lover, laying against him/her and never regretting leaving the Vault. For the Sole Survivor made her feel much more than just a Synth, he/she made her feel like a real human."
 
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Knight In Leather Armor said:
I like it. I guess this would be the default f you finished Curie's personnal quest and didn't do much else. I was actually typing up her romance ending, something like this.

[Narration will be in Curie's voice]
"Curie had finally finished her research. After two hundred years of study and experiments she decided to lay down and contemplate on what she had done in her life. Then she began her research again, but not on the wasteland, but on a very special person in her life. She began researching topics which should be left to the mind and after a hard day of work, she slipped into bed with her lover, laying against him/her and never regretting leaving the Vault. For the Sole Survivor made her felt much more than just a Synth, he/she made her feel like a real human."
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Haha you managed to write down a way better idea than me. Yeah I'm not really good with that stuff but I thought I would give it a try, it does sound kinda erotic but that's not a bad thing. Gonna make those synth lovers all hot and bothered. :lol:
 
MercenarySnake said:
Haha you managed to write down a way better idea than me. Yeah I'm not really good with that stuff but I thought I would give it a try, it does sound kinda erotic but that's not a bad thing. Gonna make those synth lovers all hot and bothered. :lol:
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It's meant to be erotic because a lot of Curie's passive dialogue (her just small talking with the SS when they pass by her in settlements) is a lot like "I cannot wait for tonight, my love."
 
Knight In Leather Armor said:
It's meant to be erotic because a lot of Curie's passive dialogue (her just small talking with the SS when they pass by her in settlements) is a lot like "I cannot wait for tonight, my love."
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Ah I see, I guess I also meant to say you really do know how to word that...uh stuff(don't know what to call it). It's really sad how Bethesda can't write for shit and yet people like you can write some nice sounding endings for these companions. They should've just let someone like Obsidian create Fallout 4.
 
MercenarySnake said:
Ah I see, I guess I also meant to say you really do know how to word that...uh stuff(don't know what to call it). It's really sad how Bethesda can't write for shit and yet people like you can write some nice sounding endings for these companions. They should've just let someone like Obsidian create Fallout 4.
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A stupid teenager who can't accomplish anything outside of a video game can do so much better than an actual writer?

Damn. Thanks.
 
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