PiCroft said:
See, the bolded part is where I think many of the problems lie. This isn't just another game that offers absolutely nothing, its Fallout. And its for that reason that I think its getting such a hard time from people.
Bethesda's excuse for changing fallout 3 into a first person action game are because they wanted to evolve and innovate, yet there is nothing new to see in Fallout 3. Its obvious that it is just easier for them to make a slightly improved oblivion set in an adolescent's re-imagining of fallout's east coast.
PiCroft said:
I seriously doubt some of the complaints about it would even be getting tossed as much as they are getting here around if it were a stand-alone without the Fallout title. And given that assumption, it gives me reason to doubt the sincerity of a lot of the complaints.
Like I said, I like all genres of video games, but that doesn't mean I want a turn based rpg to become another real time action game. As another mindless fps fallout 3 would get a pass because there is no reason for it to have the same standard of turn based combat and intelligent, witty story/lore/setting/dialogue as fallout. You are correct that it would not get as much hostility but fail to understand why?
PiCroft said:
If this game had no connection to Fallout whatsoever, except the general theme, would some of the complaints here still exist?
That is pretty spot-on, Fallout 3 has no connection to fallout whatsoever except for the general theme, the fallout name, and as the 3rd canon game in the series. Bethesda's omission of everything fallout outside of a name is the problem.
PiCroft said:
A difference of opinion does not piss me off.
Really?
PiCroft said:
If someone thinks a game sucks because of a silly feature or particular "way" a game works, and they only complain about it not because the feature itself is bad (Hence my comment on them complaining about Afterlight's cartoonish character animation), but because the game is connected to pet game of theirs of which they are over-protective, then I think I am in the right to call them on it. I'm more than happy to tear a game apart based on its own merits. Which is not what they were doing.
You have just described a difference of opinion and why you got pissed off about it. You enjoying how certain "silly" features work, and then assuming everyone else enjoys them just as much but complains about them in spite, is astoundingly dense. Not everyone enjoys what you do, people have different opinions about what they enjoy in video games. You don't have to "call them on it" for not liking exactly what you do, most people acknowledge that we are all different, liking something that they don't isn't going to blow anyone's mind.
PiCroft said:
By the way, I have been called a liar and a fool in this thread and have recieved a strike for responding in heat to the liar accusations. I still apologise for my eariler behaviour, but am I to expect fair treatment here, or am I to expect favoritism against me due to my non-orthodox views?
Fair treatment has been given, you could have been the poster child for "complaining about complainers." It isn't the most productive thing to do especially when you are getting angry and saying the same things that have been noted and explained time and again recently in this very forum.