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He's absolutely right. At least EA risks releasing a new and original game every now and then, while Activion... well...Wooz said:Reconite said:
In case you're wondering, one of the games the above quote refers to (that Activision "didn't pick up") is Tim Schafer's Brütal Legend. It was published by EA, incidentally.
SimpleMinded
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Scary how the world changes when EA is actually the good guy in the situation.
But aye, Valve seems to be the only one keeping gaming alive.
But aye, Valve seems to be the only one keeping gaming alive.
and killing it at the same time with STEAM.
How? Digital distribution is one of the only things going for PC gaming nowadays, because of that thing that always makes developers reluctant to put their games on PCs (you know what I'm talking about).Crni Vuk said:
If it's the Steam groups and the general shitty community I can see where you're coming from though.
SimpleMinded
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Aye, what's wrong with steam? It's opened up sales to a lot more indie games I bet and is a great medium for distribution.
steam is a great tool, really.
and I lol'd hard with the ramirez pics.
and I lol'd hard with the ramirez pics.
I never said it isnt a great tool. THe idea behind Steam is awesome. Its completition was a completely different matter. Seriously I just dont like it when a company is using its usual costumers/community as some kind of "beta testers".
But regardless of that you should sometimes take your time to read the licence of Steam. Its not just that its a form of DRM but they take a lot of costumer rights away from you (at least here in Germany).
But regardless of that you should sometimes take your time to read the licence of Steam. Its not just that its a form of DRM but they take a lot of costumer rights away from you (at least here in Germany).
yes they did, when you have followed Steam from day one you would know it.
Steam is working today. But the first half year of its release people went crazy as Steam was crashing their PC and causing a hell lot of weird issues like users not beeing able to play certain games on it, server issues and what ever else you can imagine. Granted it was one of the first platforms (not THE first platform though!), but still a crapy release is a crapy release. And without games like Half Life 2 or CSS they would not ever had that much consumers.
I am not saying Valve or Siera are bad developers. But they are no saints either.
Steam is working today. But the first half year of its release people went crazy as Steam was crashing their PC and causing a hell lot of weird issues like users not beeing able to play certain games on it, server issues and what ever else you can imagine. Granted it was one of the first platforms (not THE first platform though!), but still a crapy release is a crapy release. And without games like Half Life 2 or CSS they would not ever had that much consumers.
I am not saying Valve or Siera are bad developers. But they are no saints either.
moar like "Ramirez, you're a dirty spic so we send you at everything in the hope you die first", amiright?))<>(( said:
rcorporon said:
I don't think that holds up. As true as it is, its really non intrusive. Speaking as someone who regularly buys games off steam, i think its incredibly convenient. Now, if you bought HL2 off the shelf and it needed steam i could understand your frustration, but i think its a great service. Its more of a distribution platform to me as opposed to a required service. No one here has problems with DRM, its when its intrusive that it becomes annoying. Read; Ubisoft and SecuROM.
coliphorbs
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Uh, that's how it works, yes.
At any rate, I've never had big troubles with SecuROM. I've had lots of it with Steam.
coliphorbs said:
Yeah, im aware of that. It's just most of the guys i know run it anyway because its easy, so it was never an issue in the first place.
On SecuROM, its fine if its supported. I got Splinter Cell years back and i can't play it without a hack i had to get because the SecuROM Doesn't work with my OS.
Aphyosis said:
There's also the thing of, if you want, you can just remove Steam and you're done. With SecuRom and some other DRMs, they dig themselves into your computer and don't go away.
Just that you dont buy the games if you get them over steam but only the "right" to use them. Which means if they feel like it they could simply remove the games from you. Or if they want it they could charge money from you for playing. This sounds strange ? Maybe unbelievable ? Maybe now. But who knows how things will be in a few years. Its not like they do not think about such things. Microsoft might be a different kind of company but they had the idea to charge money for online gaming on the PC. Luckily people didnt accepted that. And why should they.Aphyosis said:
I heard about people that had a lot of trouble with their steam games cause they got their cd keys banned for no reason. Now try to prove that its a issue with Steam. Good luck with that. I have no clue how many times that happend but it was a issue for some time. Maybe all of them cheated ? I have no clue. But interesting is that I cant use my Microsoft XP cd code anymore which I purchased LEGALY in a shop with the CD a couple of years ago. I suspect that with a randoom code gen someone used my code and it was either removed and banned or what ever. Now every time I have to install my windows I need to phone call fucking microsoft to get my code from them over the phone. Awesome. But at least I have options here. How is it with steam ? What happens or what can you do when your cd code is suddenly banned ? Your account hacked eventualy ?
Its not just about DRM. Its about evolution in gaming. People get their rights taken away in a nice package and dont realise it even before they face the issues. Things work for you now nicely. But it hasnt to be that way for all of eternity.
Peopole bitch and complain about Ubisoft DRM and account. Yet buy their games and also log in to Steam.
iridium_ionizer
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Me in 2004. With dial-up. "Please wait 7 more hours while Steam decrypts the data you just installed on your hard drive from the CDs."Aphyosis said: