Is smoking tobacco a human right, or should it be banned?

No, habits do not become addictions. They only become reinforced habits. Addictions, on the other hand, are habits that are reinforced by the addiction. Draw out your ven diagram. It's all whether it involves a chemical dependency, NOT a preferred chemical balance. One is a matter of choice, one is a matter of physical bodily function. Wanting to experience that thrill of the n00b pwnage is not the same thing as depleted levels of endorphines because of going cold turkey on an actual addiction.
 
I never said you can't make classifications. Like between chemicals and habbits.

But Like I said, the general concencus seems to be that they are both REAL addictions.

http://alcoholrehab.com/addiction-articles/physical-and-psychological-addiction/

http://www.alleydog.com/glossary/definition.php?term=Psychological Dependence

No one ever said that there isn't a difference. However, like I said, I would not go so far to denny people that they are suffering from an addiction just because it's not about a chemical substance. The traits people dissplay in psychlogical addictions are different to psychological dissorders - take depressions for example. And I am sure that you also heard about things like conditioning or the next step, skinner box - which is very much how gambling works! To say that those are not addictions feels to me like downplaying the issues that can come with it. Like oh! Naaaw, you're not having a real problem, it's just your imagination, go home!
 
valcik said:
BigBawss said:
Tobacco has no withdrawal side-effects that effect your physical body whatsoever.
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That's not true. Nicotine molecules attached to receptors in your brain are altering the way your neuron synapsies are transmitting informations, it's very physical thing.
https://sites.oxy.edu/clint/physio/article/CellularandSynapticMechanismsofNicotineAddiction.pdf
Together, these studies emphasize that a limited exposure to nicotine is sufficient to induce lasting changes in the circuitry of the mesolimbic reward system.
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edit: Also, there's genetically affected tolerance mentioned in this article, which means nicotine is racist as feck! One person suffers with serious withdrawal symptoms while the other might be completely immune.
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I meant things like shaking, puking, aching, etc. I wasn't trying to break it down on a cellular level anything.

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BUT like alcohol, its addictive properties are very mild.
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What? Dude, alcohol withdrawal can get really bad. I've seen people (my grandfather, and a friend of mine) shaking and throwing up uncontrollably because of the withdrawals. Some people say at the ASAP clinic say alcohol withdrawal is worse than that of heroin.
 
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Addictions, on the other hand, are habits that are reinforced by the addiction.
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Nice circular reasoning. [INTELLIGENCE] So you're saying an addiction is an addiction?

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Addiction is defined by BEING a physical condition, not a mental one.
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Where can I find that definition? In the arbitrary half-knowledge dictionary? SnapSlav. SnapSlav never changes.
 
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We could have a nma party where we could slug it out with our differences. People could cave in each other faces with fists.

Beaushizzle where you at? :lol:
 
Let's be honest if that happened we'd just end up ganging up on some Bethesda fanboy and ritualistically sacrificing them to appease the fallen warriors of Black Isle.

...or something like that.
 
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I dunno if smoking should be illegal, but selling cigarets should definitely be.
It might be your choice to throw yourself into the grand canyon, it is the duty to any witness to try to stop you. If they try to advice you how to jump, take picture of you and sell it somewhere, they are murderers in a way. (and it will send them in jail in many countries)

You can argue that it is your own choice to eat/drink poison, but the people who build it and sell it to you are directly responsible for your death and should be held accountable. (i would apply the same to every illegal drugs/poison. If you can build it for yourself and use it only on yourself, there is no point preventing you to do it)

Beside, the speech about smokers being responsible for their fate is a big joke. Most smokers start pretty young, when they have no idea of what they are doing, and the product is addictive. Even if you want to stop it at some point, you are already trapped by the addiction. Should they remove all addictives factors, we would have an entirely different discussion.
 
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I smoke tobacco and I believe that it's up to a person, of course, everyone knows that it's bad for your health but there are so many things that are bad for your health too. For instance, take a coffee, a lot of researches proved that it's bad for your heart, however, people keep drinking it because they enjoy it. So how's tobacco different? If you know that it's hazardous for you but you still enjoy it then go for it as long as you don't disturb other people.:grin:
 
I'm aware of the observation that a vice is a human compulsion to escape staleness.

Whatever it is there will always be something. Especially if someone is mortal.
 
I think the issue with making cigarettes illegal is that when you block off something that many people use, deaths actually increase. Bribes too. The Prohibition is a good example of this I think.
 
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