Fireblade said:
Can someone please explain this person, his "predictions" etc without me having to go through his crappy site? I never heard of him.
Ok, so I made a "quick" summary of John Titor using info taken from
http://www.johntitor.com/
Keep in mind that all of John Titor’s predictions were made from November 2000 to March 2001. All before September 11 and the war on Terror. It's also interesting to note that after he stated in March 2001 he would be going back to his time, he was never heard from again.
Who is John Titor?
John Titor is a person from the year 2036. He was born, raised and lives in Florida in 2036 and was born in 1998 in Jacksonville. Works for the military and is in a time traveling unit who’s purpose is to go back in time and retrieve tools, equipment, and technology that the current government of 2036 needs but was lost in WW3. John Titor is a Christian.
Why did he come back to 2000?
The guy who made johntitor.com said:
The stated reason John was here in our time was to obtain an IBM computer built in 1975 called a 5100. The 5100 does exist and was manufactured and sold by IBM. It is historically remembered as one of the first portable computers ever mass-produced but it arrived before computers were marketed to the public and quickly passed away in the early eighties.
John claimed he was related to one of the IBM engineers or programmers who worked on the 5100 and that's why he was chosen for this mission. By putting the pieces of his posts together, it appears he journeyed to Rochester Minnesota in 1975 (where the 5100 was created and manufactured), met with his relative who worked on the computer, obtained a 5100 from him and had it altered in some way for use in 2036.
John mentions that the 5100 had some sort of inbuilt ability to translate computer languages that was unknown or unpublished before 2036. The computer would then have been used back in his time to translate or fix broken computer systems.
Based on his explanation, it would appear there must have been an easier way to solve this problem in 2036. If you can travel in time, why go back for a piece of old technology that we find useless? This may seem logical until you realize that even today, NASA scours the Internet looking for old computer parts to keep their systems running.
Apparently most/all of the servers for the government of the USA use UNIX, and I guess UNIX has a problem in 2038, but no one ever checked the UNIX problem out to see if he was telling the truth or not. John needed to go back into time to get a computer from 1975 that could translate the code UNIX uses into code that the future programmers can edit so they can fix the problem. On his way back, John says that he stopped by in 2000 for personal reasons. (He said that he was fascinated at seeing the civil was unfold before his eyes.)
He said that the civil war started in both 2004 and 2005, but I’m not sure which one he means. I don’t know which one of these two quotes came first, so who knows?
Someone with a question said:
John says the civil war leads to the world war in 2015. The civil war lasts for ten years?
John Titor said:
It's 2004. I apologize for a missed key (very observant - we all need good critics). Perhaps our definition of war is different. I would define it as a conflict where organized groups engage in maneuver and armed conflict. The first U.S. civil war lasted 4 years and the English civil war lasted 6. How long is too long?
John Titor said:
There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska.
Basically, the government of the USA started taking away more and more civil liberties in the name of security and many people moved to the countryside to escapes the oppression. The civil was between the Rural areas and the large cities, John being on the side of the rural areas.
The Second American civil war went from 2005-2015, ending in a quick and nuclear WW3.
Here are some questions John Titor answered about the future:
Someone with a question said:
What event started the war? Can it be stopped?
John Titor said:
The war is a result of faulty politics and desperation from Western
leadership during the US civil war. Yes, I suppose you could stop it.
Someone with a question said:
Does the continuing conflict between Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the upcoming war?
John Titor said:
Someone with a question said:
Does the current relationship between Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war?
John Titor said:
Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency. This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election. The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause.
Someone with a question said:
How and why do the Arabs Jews become entangled in the civil war of the U.S.A?
John Titor said:
They are not directly involved but political situations are dependant on Western stability, which collapses in 2005.
Someone with a question said:
Why do you keep telling us about the war? How do you know that will even happen in our worldline? Something may have already changed and it won't happen at all.
John Titor said:
Yes, you are correct! However, I am not confident things are different enough for you to avoid the conflict. You may also consider the possibility that a world with no war is far less desirable in the long run.
Someone with a question said:
John talks about a civil war being started between the Democrats and Republicans. Later, this escalates into WW3 and he mentions that it is a good thing for us.
John Titor said:
I don't believe I ever said the war was between Democrats and Republicans. If I am incorrect, please point that out. It doesn't exactly escalate as much as it opens the door for other aggression. Yes, I think the war would be good for society and I would be happy to debate that with you.
Someone with a question said:
Was a lot of the US 18-24 age group killed in the war because of a draft?
John Titor said:
Someone with a question said:
Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about the President then?
John Titor said:
The President or "leader" in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.
^^This doesn't sound aaaaaanything like Bush, oh no.
Someone with a question said:
Does the civil war start in such a way that those willing will have time to remove themselves to safer locations.
John Titor said:
Yes. You will be forced to ask yourself how many civil rights you will give up to feel safe.
Someone with a question said:
Will you readily be able to identify the enemy?
John Titor said:
They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.
Someone with a question said:
Will soldiers be asked to kill their countrymen?
John Titor said:
I'm not positive but don't they sign a small piece of paper now asking them if they would have a problem with that?
Someone with a question said:
You say you don't want to effect anything by giving information but you could change this worldline just by talking about the war, or anything for that matter.
John Titor said:
I don't believe that knowing a possible future makes it happen. You are capable of changing your worldline for the better right now. None of the things I have said will be a surprise. They were set in motion ten, twenty, even thirty years ago. Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?
^^Remember, this was made BEFORE Sept 11 or the war on terror.^^
Someone with a question said:
You say you were in the militia fighting the US Army. I would think civilians would have no chance of successfully fighting the military.
John Titor said:
You must realize that why people are fighting is more important that what they are fighting with. The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong.
Someone with a question said:
You say the civil war lasts from 2004 to 2008 and then the short big war in 2015. What do the years from 2008 to 2015 look like? How long does WWIII last.
John Titor said:
I'm not sure I said that exactly. By 2008, I would say the civil conflict is pretty much at everyone's doorstep. Western instability during the conflict leads to the attack in 2015. WWIII is very short with a longer period of mop up.
(John made other predictions, but I thought that the ones that were about the war that's supposed to start this year would be the most relevant.)
Arresting people and holding them with due process?
Sacrificing freedom for security?
Increasingly inconsistent US foreign policy?
All statements made before 9-11 or the war on terror?
A lot of John’s credibility comes from how a lot of this is eerily coming true.
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