John Titor, megafraud

What's weird to me is that people actually seem to be weighing factors for and against, as if they'd believe Titor was a time traveller if only his predictions would seem to add up well enough. Of course the whole concept is ludicrous and self-contradictory. If I had stated in November that I have clairvoyant powers and that there would be a great lamentation coming in Southeast Asia, would it suddenly seem likely that I can see you gasping with awe in front of your monitors?
 
Yes, Per, we probably would. Of course it's ludicrous, make no mistake, but the guy is still a cunt.
 
PARADOX TIME!

I read through his story halfway on the site. He says he was born in 1998. If thats true then the "young" John is alive and living in Florida...so why doesnt he find himself to prove he exists? While someone try's this why not kill the young John to see if the John "from the future" suddenly dissipates into a paradox of logic.

Whoa...I have a headache.

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The Vault Dweller
 
If a time traveler really had visited us he surely wouldn't have used his real name in order to protect his other self. Besides convincing his younger self would have been just as hard as convincing any other person.
 
Yeah.. Those damned random DNA checks.

Everywhere they are!
 
Colt said:
And there are DNA checks, of course. - Colt
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I was waiting for someone to write that.. How would you react if a "time-traveler" asked you to go take some DNA tests with you? I know what he would get from me.. Maybe a little chuckle and a healthy "sod off!".
 
The_Vault_Dweller said:
PARADOX TIME!

I read through his story halfway on the site. He says he was born in 1998. If thats true then the "young" John is alive and living in Florida...so why doesnt he find himself to prove he exists? While someone try's this why not kill the young John to see if the John "from the future" suddenly dissipates into a paradox of logic.

Whoa...I have a headache.

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The Vault Dweller
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The guy would be like 7 years old by now, and 1 or 2 at the time of writing. Like a 7-year-old would now be reading the internet, or a two-year-old baby would prove anything.

Not that I don't think this guy is full of sh*t, of course.
 
Marek said:
Colt said:
And there are DNA checks, of course. - Colt
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I was waiting for someone to write that.. How would you react if a "time-traveler" asked you to go take some DNA tests with you? I know what he would get from me.. Maybe a little chuckle and a healthy "sod off!".
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Who says anyone is going to be "asked"? The NMA Militia will simply kidnap this bugger, with Roshambo leading us, and make him tell us where to find the smaller version. - Colt
 
Well I've read all his threads, and he mentions that he met his parents, and of course "John Titor" isn't his real name. He also met his past self, but I don't know if he told him he was... him. And also he posted from his parent's computer. IP untraceable, of course.
 
The_Vault_Dweller said:
PARADOX TIME!

I read through his story halfway on the site. He says he was born in 1998. If thats true then the "young" John is alive and living in Florida...so why doesnt he find himself to prove he exists? While someone try's this why not kill the young John to see if the John "from the future" suddenly dissipates into a paradox of logic.

Whoa...I have a headache.

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The Vault Dweller
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Dude, there would be no paradox, your thinking of time travel is the one that most people accept. Here's how it actually works:

The universe we live in has 3 spatial dimensions: length, width, and height. Time is a fourth dimension. For ever decision that is made in the universe, the universe splits off into two parallel universes, one where the decision was decided one way, and the other where the decision was decided another.

So there's currently a lot of parallel universes, some very different, some so similar you can’t even notice the difference. This is the fifth dimension.

If you were to go back in time and kill your past self, no paradox would happen. You would just now live in a universe where you were killed. If you went back to the future, everyone would have the memory of you being killed when you killed yourself in the past. “You” are from a universe (parallel to the one you exist in now) where you were not killed.
 
I would just like to note that that is only one theory of how time actually works. We can't tell yet because, well, no time machines to actually try it out. - Colt
 
I would like to note that this kind of many-worlds metaphysics is pure fantasy and does not in any way follow from quantum physics. It's designed to look as if it answers something by invoking random physical entities but actually doesn't mean anything.
 
There's more than 4 dimensions, it's just that these are the only dimensions we notice. And the fact that it would split into two dimensions is as plausible as there being such a thing as a "time paradox". Also, the Universe might collapse. There's a lot we don't know, and it would be retarded to dismiss it as "Time travel is strictly impossible". In fact, it has been proven that time travel to the future is possible.
 
Baboon said:
There's a lot we don't know, and it would be retarded to dismiss it as "Time travel is strictly impossible".
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About as retarded as dismissing the fact that a purple octopus sits atop your monitor whenever you're not looking. It doesn't mean it deserves any form of consideration or recognition.

Baboon said:
In fact, it has been proven that time travel to the future is possible.
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With creative redefinitions of "proven", "time travel" and "future", sure.
 
Just what I thought, Dark matter 2.

And Per, there might very well be an octopus sitting on my monitor when I'm not looking. Maybe he teleports there every time, using the whole theory of time travel. I'm just saying there's no point in dismissing time travel. But then, I'm not saying it's possible, you just shouldn't dismiss anything that easily.
 
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