Bradylama
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Probably not. But it is silly.
John Titor, megafraud
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You must equip the ring.Ozrat said:
Ashmo said:
Well, the basic idea of quantum theory is that all particles behave like waves - they are assigned a wave function (usually written as psi(x,y,z,t) ) whose absolute value squared (absolute value being necessary here because the wavefunction can take complex values) represents the chance a particle will be found at (x,y,z,t). It follows that you may know the *chance* a particle will appear at a particular volume in space at a certain time range (by integrating |psi|^2 in that time and volume), but you'll never know in advance it willl indeed be there (unless you evaluate that chance with the volume being the entire universe).
That's one formalism, anyway.
Perhaps infinite timelines do exist, but not on the account of human choices, but rather "particle choice" - another timeline created for every quantum state the universe can choose at any given moment. And that's assuming that indeed quantum theory represents reality and is not merely a very good approximation (like Newtonian physics).
I remember that from a University course, oddly.
Bradylama
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I'm not sure I can trust a physics lesson from a guy with a Saiyan Fusion avatar.
Bradylama said:
It balances out with the Gauss signature
:idea: I finally understand your name change to Fyu-jon as 'Fusion' would be written so in katakana. It's a wonder it hasn't occured to me before.
Corpse
Mildly Dipped
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I'm surprised no one has brought string theory into this.
Yes, that's Heisenberg's uncertainty principle your talking about.
I think everything plays a part in the grand cosmic scale so in a way human choice could affect a timeline as much as the position of a rock at a given time could; choices though are most often a reaction and subject to the current situation and environment.
In my view time cannot be linear but as chaotic as looking at an infinite network of capillaries each branching from another; after all the universe seems to follow a chaotic pattern where fractals and attractors are the ruling pattern.
As to this crackpot's claim to have travelled back in time well...
Don't know if I should feel sorry or laugh at anyone gullible enough to buy his books or go to his seminars.
Anyway, if time travel was possible it would have to be done in space; this is because every object in the universe moves.
Supposing you could transport yourself (like in back to the future for example) you would not exit at the same point in space where you entered, but most likely would end up somewhere in space depending on how far in time you moved in either direction.
Calculon00 said:
I'm surprised no one has brought string theory into this.
Ashmo said:
Yes, that's Heisenberg's uncertainty principle your talking about.
Fyu-jon!!! said:
I think everything plays a part in the grand cosmic scale so in a way human choice could affect a timeline as much as the position of a rock at a given time could; choices though are most often a reaction and subject to the current situation and environment.
In my view time cannot be linear but as chaotic as looking at an infinite network of capillaries each branching from another; after all the universe seems to follow a chaotic pattern where fractals and attractors are the ruling pattern.
As to this crackpot's claim to have travelled back in time well...
Don't know if I should feel sorry or laugh at anyone gullible enough to buy his books or go to his seminars.
Anyway, if time travel was possible it would have to be done in space; this is because every object in the universe moves.
Supposing you could transport yourself (like in back to the future for example) you would not exit at the same point in space where you entered, but most likely would end up somewhere in space depending on how far in time you moved in either direction.
Probably because you weren't always an annoying Swede with an identity crisis.Luke said:
The Vault Dweller
always looking for water.
Ratty said:
Whoa so the current Luke is some sort of time traveler from an alternate period when the Japanese had Sweden ceded to them after they won WW2? Finally this thread gets back on topic to time travel.
Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
Corpse said:
Whoa, you mean it doesn't work like in ST
oyager where if you travel in time you always end up where the ship is, regardless of where in the enormous Delta Quadrant that happens to be?Then again, given that so many people like to believe that the cosmos is tailor-made to allow for various sf scenarios like John Titor, someone's probably turned out a major webpage already that explains all about why this is so.
www.nutcase.com said:
The Vault Dweller
always looking for water.
Marek said:
I thought Luke drank a lot though? Not to say he isnt a great man. Oh wait...your Swedish so I guess you would know by comparing to other Swede's.
Uh...I hope I didnt offend you or him. Suddenly I feel like Ive forgotten what this threads about.
Oh ya time travel...no wait its about the hoax that is John Titor. I think. Who knows...maybe...Dark Matter knows? This thread is looking like a sequel. Dont me hyping it stop the spam/discussion/wisecracks/facts though.
Onward!,
The Vault Dweller
The_Vault_Dweller said:
He's not Swedish.
Fyu-jon!!! said:
In other words: The only decent formula we have to predict particle movement only produces "likely" outcomes?
Seeing how "likely" outcomes (rather than "definite" outcomes) are usually the result of lacking certain variables I'd say that this is more of a proof for our lack of understanding of certain behaviors rather than proof for the existence of "randomness" in those behaviors.
It doesn't prove that one of multiple events might occur, it just proves that we are unable to predict which of them will occur.
I think no matter how many possible events have a chance of occuring, there will only be one among them which will actually occur, no matter the chance. The chance is only a prediction of the future based on our (incomplete) knowledge. Thus, I don't believe in the existence of an infinite "decision tree" but only an infinite "timeline".
I'm not saying we will at some point be able to figure out all missing variables to predict the future accurately tho, because we couldn't possibly figure out the current state of every single particle and whatnot in the universe at any particular point of time (although there might be a chance for that event to occur, I don't think it actually ever will, even if time is infinite).
The_Vault_Dweller said:
You love me, you really love me
. And I don't really drink that much, but when I do drink it has according to my observations *very* little effect on my personality. Mainly I just get a tad bit merrier, which I would say is only partly due to the alcohol when in good company, and my perception gets slightly dimmed of course - many others go totally nuts. If I do get too much, which is very rare, I don't barf of anything but just retire to my dreams somewhere since I just get too tired.
Ditto, except that I get sick if I drink too much (or the wrong kind of things).
If I stick to one thing (beer, in particular, unless it's some kind of exotic weirdo beer like the brandless stuff they sold on that one event in England where they weren't even estimate to say how much alcohol there might be in it), it takes a lot of beer to get me to that point tho.
I also don't suffer from blackouts unless I drink past the "back to sender" point, at which point I stop drinking anyway, though.
It's not too bad as long as people don't want me to move when I've gotten that far. Like a pidgeon I usually end up home at some point though, however *unlike* a pidgeon I don't tend to get killed half-way through.
If I stick to one thing (beer, in particular, unless it's some kind of exotic weirdo beer like the brandless stuff they sold on that one event in England where they weren't even estimate to say how much alcohol there might be in it), it takes a lot of beer to get me to that point tho.
I also don't suffer from blackouts unless I drink past the "back to sender" point, at which point I stop drinking anyway, though.
It's not too bad as long as people don't want me to move when I've gotten that far. Like a pidgeon I usually end up home at some point though, however *unlike* a pidgeon I don't tend to get killed half-way through.
calculon000
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Perhaps one day a computer simulation will be incepted that will simulated a limited area, like, say, the solar system, that will use very advanced scanners to determine the location and velocity of every atom and be able to simulate that area into a accurate prediction, taking into account the chance of outside interference.Ashmo said:
(Heisenberg be damned!)
Paladin Solo
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Europe sucks
Woops, wrong thread.
Hahaha, sorry, after reading Baboon's flamable post in the first page I had to say it.
All I know, whatever happens this year, will be nothing compared to the great disaster to come in 2012. Hell, what did you think that recent tsunami was, an accident, or a warning?
Woops, wrong thread.
Hahaha, sorry, after reading Baboon's flamable post in the first page I had to say it.
All I know, whatever happens this year, will be nothing compared to the great disaster to come in 2012. Hell, what did you think that recent tsunami was, an accident, or a warning?