Lakota indians declare independence from US
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xdarkyrex said:
Are you really serious about this? An independent country landlocked in the heart of the US, remaining wealthy off of the US economy?
xdarkyrex said:
Really, with what currency, exactly? They're not a US country, so they can't use dollars, and their citizens are no longer citizens of the US, meaning they can't access their bank accounts. And where are they going to spend their money? They can't enter the US...
Why would they need to remain wealthy off of the US economy? They just spend every dime of their money on goods before this is official, farming equipment and building manufacturing plants, and then they withdraw from the united states when they have no stakes in it left, printing out their own money shortly after, which, in a fiat system, would actually create money out of thin air, which they can internally circulate. They can buy the means to be self sufficient, they can produce the water and power and food, and have plenty of land to recycle and remove waste on their own. I'm not saying that they won't lower the standard of living a tiny bit, and it is not a smooth road ahead, but this is entirely doable, since Bush can't touch them if they don't lead a violent revolt.
Money doesn't quite work like that.
Any country can have money in any currency, just how China has tons of American money. The Lakota peoples money would still be good, and their businesses with banks wouldn't be frozen. You don't have to be a united states citizen to have a bank account.
Brother None said:
Money doesn't quite work like that.
Any country can have money in any currency, just how China has tons of American money. The Lakota peoples money would still be good, and their businesses with banks wouldn't be frozen. You don't have to be a united states citizen to have a bank account.
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With what population,trade,infrastructure,skilled labor?
Was this not the crux of their reason to begin with?
PUBLICITY STUNT
xdarkyrex said:
Was this not the crux of their reason to begin with?
PUBLICITY STUNT
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People will migrate there, I guarantee it.
Also, the reason they are leaving isn't because of the low standard of living, it is because of the rape of the land that is supposedly theirs, against their will, despite what treaties say.
If you looked back and saw that picture I posted, you'll see 3 different colors of land.
The red is their current land.
The yellow is the land that the treaty they signed with the united states gave them. (The orange is what they had after the united states encrached upon them the first time, taking the Black Hills, a mere 10 years after the original treaty, without their consent, might I add. It was forcibly taken.)
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Seriously, it is a publicity stunt nothing more. What they are spewing is infeasible at best. What next Soviet Russia building short range nuclear missle sites in Lakota country, USA WILL RESPECT THEIR INDEPENDENCE!
xdarkyrex said:
You don't have to be genius to freeze their bank account, stop them from coming over the border, or make the transmitting of currency over the US-Lakota border illegal
I thought you were just joking, anyway, but you're actually serious, aren't you? I'm sorry, but the original question still was about them being "self sufficient", and now we're discussing them leeching off the US, the antinym of self-sufficiency.
You're actually taking this seriously? Tell me you're joking.
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xdarkyrex said:
Sigh, I knew it was gonna be about this from you.
Goodbye reason, hello pity.
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There is very little point in taking this seriously anymore, there have been many mistakes commited by this country in it's past, but really this is now not then. Feel guilty if you must, but come on lets get back to reality now.
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Gee, I wonder why that is? They should have enough money to fund a new country but, most of them live in abject poverty, why?
Anyway, going out with all da blacks got it made is ridiculous, shoulda intagrated niggaz.
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Would you rather the natives in the US be like the ones north of the border, I'll give you a hint, I walk down main street winnipeg and you got the solvent abusers, the sniffers, the lysol drinkers, and the average drunks hanging around soup kitchens.
There are those that work for a living and I respect them as I would any other working person, but they got ostracized from their own people, being called 'apples' because they're red on the outside and white on the inside.
It's a sickening state letting them live the way they are, the government throws money at them to hope that they go away and leaves them to rot on their reserves, which in my opinion should be at least culled a bit, there are too many small ones that most of the money given to them is spent shipping up a roll of toilet paper!
They expect to receive government money nearly from birth, they expect every hard working Tom, Dick, and Jane, to put food on their plates no matter what the truth of the matter really is, and social assistance does nothing for their pride, or their wellbeing, it's just a party cheque to them!
Once again there are exceptions to that and I fully admit to them, but everything I see in this wasteland of a city shows these guys living it up and blowing out their minds by having 5 kids and living off treaty and welfare rights.
It's a sickening state and it's souring my mood, so I'm stopping here.
There are those that work for a living and I respect them as I would any other working person, but they got ostracized from their own people, being called 'apples' because they're red on the outside and white on the inside.
It's a sickening state letting them live the way they are, the government throws money at them to hope that they go away and leaves them to rot on their reserves, which in my opinion should be at least culled a bit, there are too many small ones that most of the money given to them is spent shipping up a roll of toilet paper!
They expect to receive government money nearly from birth, they expect every hard working Tom, Dick, and Jane, to put food on their plates no matter what the truth of the matter really is, and social assistance does nothing for their pride, or their wellbeing, it's just a party cheque to them!
Once again there are exceptions to that and I fully admit to them, but everything I see in this wasteland of a city shows these guys living it up and blowing out their minds by having 5 kids and living off treaty and welfare rights.
It's a sickening state and it's souring my mood, so I'm stopping here.