AlternatePFG said:
Well the events of Lonesome Road are supposed to become legendary across the Mojave wasteland.
Well the events of Lonesome Road are supposed to become legendary across the Mojave wasteland.
DevilTakeMe
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
Courier said:
In this case, it's not like other DLC where people can't find a way into the area. Sierra Madre, Zion Valley, Big MT all have treacherous terrain or some other impassable obstacle and can only get in or out with the help of a plot device. The Divide is simply on a lonesome road near Death Valley (which is not an impassable area, just one you don't want to really go through on foot).
As you can find out yourself, some other people have stumbled their way through the Divide. Others, if they're smart, will return with what they know of the place, find records of the Courier going through. It wouldn't be impossible to find some records of who launched/stopped the missiles.
Tales of what happened there can spread. One of the Couriers (I'll let you guess who) might even relate what happened with travellers.
outofthegamer
Still Mildly Glowing
No, Dr. Zero never says anything like that.The Enclave 86 said:
And Muggy specifically states that Dr. Zero made him because he was insanely jealous of Mr. House -- so he made a completely useless, miniature securitron with a rediculous addiction to mugs.
Courier said:
Wait...how? There are no (sane) witnesses, no one has any reason to talk about it, Ulysses is dead or will die there. If he survived I guess he could talk to explorers, but it's not guaranteed he survived.
Really? Is that (statement in the spoiler mark) true? That'd be disappointing.
AlternatePFG
First time out of the vault
Actually, if you return to the Lonesome Road area, you find Ulysses not too far from where you enter. He'll give you some stuff from time to time, teach you some recipes and he has more stuff to talk about.Brother None said:
On a side note: Has anyone been to Courier's Mile? Holy shit, is it tough, but you get an insane amount of ammo.
AlternatePFG said:
Yeah, I said as much. I assumed he's not there if you fight him? I haven't gone back to test that path.
AlternatePFG said:
Plus you need it to hunt achievements. Heh.
AlternatePFG
First time out of the vault
To detonate all the warheads, correct?Brother None said:
I missed quite a few cool items along the way. I only have the basic riot armor, according to the wiki there are two more types can be found. I just found the nail gun, that's quite cool.
I found the Elite, it's up a few floors on one of the collapsed buildings on a dead NCR sniper. It's pretty friggin great.
Brother None said:
According to the ending of Dead Money at least, if a schizophrenic loner nightkin can hear about your battle through the grapevine then anyone can.
Courier said:
Yes, but how? Who from? This wasn't a very large-scale battle, and it happened underground in a facility with no one around. There's a certain disjoint here. You can't just say "it became legend", things become legend for a reason, and depending on the choices you made this didn't necessarily.
Sabirah said:
As I mentioned previously, my Courier is near the end of the Yes Man path and thus cannot complete any NCR main quests.
So has anyone tried LR on VH/HC? Tunnelers are downright evil on hard difficulty.
Edit: All this talk about alignment poses an interesting question: What happens if your Courier is neutral to all parties involved? Assuming s/he doesn't encounter the NCR guard north of Primm, it's possible to access LR without meeting any involved factions.
DevilTakeMe
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
Ophiuchus said:
It seems that your answers when talking to Ulysses affect which path you take as far as the coat left for you is concerned. On my first playthrough, I used some of the answers marked [NCR] even though I was down the Yes Man path (I also had access to some [Legion] answers, but did not use them), and that gave me the NCR jacket at the end.
Brother None said:
Unlike the Courier (and most anyone else for that matter), Dog and Christine are both capable of traveling to and from the Sierra Madre, and thus, might be able to pick up news from the outside world (unless they use radio, of course).
Again, every other DLC location is isolated due to things like a forcefield in the Big MT or impassable labyrinth of broken terrain like Zion (which you can fix with a proper map). The Divide, on the other hand, is just on a road, where travelers come every so often. And since the accident, there are signs people have been there since, and have tried to scout a path through the Divide.
There is an unmarked quest thing for finding 10 notes in the Divide - I've only managed to find a few of them. One of them is by a guy from the Hub trying to navigate the Divide, but he got caught up in a radioactive cave and never got out.
Ok, this is getting annoying. I wasn't asking about Dog and Christine going to the Mojave, I was asking how the Mojave would hear what happened in the Divide in the first place? The only sane people who know are the two Couriers, one of who might well be dead.
And does no one have the answer on
[spoiler:881b5cb669]What's needed to talk down Ulysses? Do you really need to go with the NCR options? I would figure listening to his tapes would do, and I'm fairly sure I did a 90% speech check.[/spoiler:881b5cb669]
And does no one have the answer on
[spoiler:881b5cb669]What's needed to talk down Ulysses? Do you really need to go with the NCR options? I would figure listening to his tapes would do, and I'm fairly sure I did a 90% speech check.[/spoiler:881b5cb669]
Just wondering if anyone can shed a bit more light about ED-E in Lonesome Road.
So he's a copy of the original one, but has more databanks that he reveals to you - maybe they're triggered - only in the Divide? I've been wracking my brain for the details as to how ED-E's personality made its way into the Hopeville facilities but it still doesn't make that much sense to me...and I get the feeling that it may have something to do with the engine not being able to handle bringing companions from the main world into DLCs (true?)... and so Obsidian needed to work within those limitations.
Would've preferred it if you, say, stepped foot into the Divide, then somewhere down the line the camera turns around and zooms into the real ED-E (with whatever upgrades or not on him from the Mojave) who's been tracking you the whole way, followed by 'ED-E, what are you doing here?' dialogue, or something.
And for me his sacrifice ending would've worked much better and been more meaningful if he was the ED-E from the Mojave and not a copy, and that if he died, he'd be dead... no pseudo-'Puppies!' perk ED-E waiting for you when you go back.
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Also, with the whole 'choice' thing re the Ashton Silo and how the Courier's Mile is caused, surely they were playing around with the topic of player agency (ala Bioshock), i.e. the courier inadvertently caused the Divide when he delivered a package because that was what his/her job was...and then similarly, you, as the player, inadvertently caused further destruction because 'the quest marker/game told me to'. It just comes across as odd or even out of place because 'this is Fallout' and should be all about choice, but in LR they take it away from you in order to highlight the PC's past and Ulysses' motives for hunting you and punishing your obliviousness.... I liked it.
Finally though, why does Ulysses hate ED-E so much again?
*Edit - removed spoiler tags, thread title already mentions it
So he's a copy of the original one, but has more databanks that he reveals to you - maybe they're triggered - only in the Divide? I've been wracking my brain for the details as to how ED-E's personality made its way into the Hopeville facilities but it still doesn't make that much sense to me...and I get the feeling that it may have something to do with the engine not being able to handle bringing companions from the main world into DLCs (true?)... and so Obsidian needed to work within those limitations.
Would've preferred it if you, say, stepped foot into the Divide, then somewhere down the line the camera turns around and zooms into the real ED-E (with whatever upgrades or not on him from the Mojave) who's been tracking you the whole way, followed by 'ED-E, what are you doing here?' dialogue, or something.
And for me his sacrifice ending would've worked much better and been more meaningful if he was the ED-E from the Mojave and not a copy, and that if he died, he'd be dead... no pseudo-'Puppies!' perk ED-E waiting for you when you go back.
~
Also, with the whole 'choice' thing re the Ashton Silo and how the Courier's Mile is caused, surely they were playing around with the topic of player agency (ala Bioshock), i.e. the courier inadvertently caused the Divide when he delivered a package because that was what his/her job was...and then similarly, you, as the player, inadvertently caused further destruction because 'the quest marker/game told me to'. It just comes across as odd or even out of place because 'this is Fallout' and should be all about choice, but in LR they take it away from you in order to highlight the PC's past and Ulysses' motives for hunting you and punishing your obliviousness.... I liked it.
Finally though, why does Ulysses hate ED-E so much again?
*Edit - removed spoiler tags, thread title already mentions it