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SSgt Curious
First time out of the vault
Lewisite,
sounds like you will fit in real well with the marine core as they like retards who will say any dumbass thing before running in to get shot. As for a 96 on your asvab, doubtful as i'm pretty sure you failed the "not a cockbite" section and that takes off about 60 points, wich would give you a maximum score of 40 just right for the corps. have fun fodder.
sounds like you will fit in real well with the marine core as they like retards who will say any dumbass thing before running in to get shot. As for a 96 on your asvab, doubtful as i'm pretty sure you failed the "not a cockbite" section and that takes off about 60 points, wich would give you a maximum score of 40 just right for the corps. have fun fodder.
Wooz said:
Just wanted to say my apologies to Wooz for that off-topic in portuguese. I'll try to use English next time.
And damm!, that is a bad translation of Portuguese. I'll definitely write in English next time so that i don't have to see my language get murderer.
1Trevor1, I told you to stop spamming. If you don't have anything constructive to say, shut the fuck up.
Strike two.
Strike two.
ZiggyMeister
It Wandered In From the Wastes
My father was also on the colonial war, in Angola. I also heard some stories about all that fighting in the jungle.aXXo said:
And I guess that is one of the reason that I would only join the Army if we were at war and if Portugal was on the right side. That and the fact that, unfortunately, in that war we were on the wrong side.
But what the hell, if it were a war against Spain, like to claim back Olivença, I would join anyway
Rules are rules, but I'm guessing you used Portuguese to tease some Spanish people that may be passing by.aXXo said:Just wanted to say my apologies to Wooz for that off-topic in portuguese. I'll try to use English next time.
It seems like he used a automatic translator, because all the "mto" weren't translated...aXXo said:And damm!, that is a bad translation of Portuguese. I'll definitely write in English next time so that i don't have to see my language get murderer.
@aXXo
I've seen this nick in some other places!
Are you the real aXXo, the movie producer or something like that?
ZiggyMeister, you are right, Portugal was on the wrong side in the colonial war.
I think that if there is a war, both sides think they are the right side and that is why wars keep on happening. Not to mention that in any war there is people that die and from comes hates for others that didn't had anything to do with it and so on. Because hates generates hate.
By the way, you guess right when you say that i wrote in portuguese to tease the spanish. Too bad none responded (hehe ). But like you say, rules are rules and i won't make that mistake again.
About the axxo part, i don't have anything to do with that. I was just one day thinking of a name i'd like to use and "axxo" just flashed in my head. I don't know if i had seen the name before or not but i started using the name way before i knew that axxo existed.
Cumps.
I think that if there is a war, both sides think they are the right side and that is why wars keep on happening. Not to mention that in any war there is people that die and from comes hates for others that didn't had anything to do with it and so on. Because hates generates hate.
By the way, you guess right when you say that i wrote in portuguese to tease the spanish. Too bad none responded (hehe
). But like you say, rules are rules and i won't make that mistake again. About the axxo part, i don't have anything to do with that. I was just one day thinking of a name i'd like to use and "axxo" just flashed in my head. I don't know if i had seen the name before or not but i started using the name way before i knew that axxo existed.
Cumps.
Carib FMJ
Nuka-Cola Chaser
Ever knew a war that happened and the aggressor side said they were the bad guys?
ZiggyMeister
It Wandered In From the Wastes
I would say that both in World War I and World War II, the aggressors were on the side that was defeated.Carib FMJ said:
So, even if against their will, those countries signed a "guilty note" stating that they were were guilty for that wars and I guess that means they said they were the bad guys.
So I would answer: Yes, I know.
what sometimes happens is that a country goes to war (let's take the eample of germany in world war II), and you are in the army. You have to obey your superior officers or you get a court marcial and are stentenced to death. So maybe, during world war II there were soldiers that knew that what they were doing was wrong (not all but some) and had to do it anyway just to save their lifes. After the war they declared guilty.
The fun part is when the alternative is facing the wall and getting shot.
Sure, it would have been more moral to die rather than participate in the evil deeds expected of you, but when the alternative is dying, all morals end up being tossed out the window anyway.
Also, people do a lot of funny things if you convince them long enough that they are superior, no enemy is innocent and everyone's life depends on the victory. Even more so if you don't penalise excesses (prison experiment anyone?) and non-compliance results in death.
Not that many of them weren't acting deliberately excessive. No point in denying that.
The fun part about the Third Reich is that nobody's willing to take it as a lesson and learn from it -- it was a diabolic regime of inhuman monsters; acknowledging that one can learn from it is acknowledging that these monsters were entirely human.
Same problem with all bad people anyway. Even rapists are human. Understanding crime is necessary to prevent it.
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Oh, anyway, carry on.
Sure, it would have been more moral to die rather than participate in the evil deeds expected of you, but when the alternative is dying, all morals end up being tossed out the window anyway.
Also, people do a lot of funny things if you convince them long enough that they are superior, no enemy is innocent and everyone's life depends on the victory. Even more so if you don't penalise excesses (prison experiment anyone?) and non-compliance results in death.
Not that many of them weren't acting deliberately excessive. No point in denying that.
The fun part about the Third Reich is that nobody's willing to take it as a lesson and learn from it -- it was a diabolic regime of inhuman monsters; acknowledging that one can learn from it is acknowledging that these monsters were entirely human.
Same problem with all bad people anyway. Even rapists are human. Understanding crime is necessary to prevent it.
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Oh, anyway, carry on.
Carib FMJ
Nuka-Cola Chaser
I think do what they have to. I think the average Japanese soldier and German soldier probably wanted nothing to do with their countries grab for power but got drafted and fought to survive. I can't fault them.
Same with the Iraqi army. I know for a fact a lot of them didn't want to fight us and that includes members of the Republican Guard... but when your faced with being shot by your superior or your family suffering for your choice, I think you rather take the chance of getting captured by the Americans.
Same with the Iraqi army. I know for a fact a lot of them didn't want to fight us and that includes members of the Republican Guard... but when your faced with being shot by your superior or your family suffering for your choice, I think you rather take the chance of getting captured by the Americans.
Explains the Iraq War's initial happenings far better than the American "the Iraqis love us and want our chewing gum" theory.
Nigga please.
That has to be the oldest tale about authoritarian countries' army in existence.
The Vault Dweller
always looking for water.
Ashmo said:
I love you.
I grew up in a family religious, intellectual, and German. I was taught what you just expressed for a variety of reasons. I can't express how great it is to see someone else who realises that evil comes from people same as good and there is no such thing as "monsters".
People who don't understand this exist everywhere including here in the USA. I figured it would be the same in any other modern nation.
Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
I'm personally refused to do my military service (you can do that in germany and then have to do some social work instead), but i think it's okay for people who have no problems what they might have to do...
There is some need for military and such, even more for police (where you also might have to make hard decisions) and such.
But i guess it's nothing for me...
People can become monsters, when the 'right' circumstances arise.
So we really have to watch each others and speak out if somethings going wrong.
There is some need for military and such, even more for police (where you also might have to make hard decisions) and such.
But i guess it's nothing for me...
People can become monsters, when the 'right' circumstances arise.
So we really have to watch each others and speak out if somethings going wrong.
Bad_Karma said:
That's exactly right. Its just a shame that many people cannot see evil until its fully formed, or already been committed. Or perhaps they can, and just delude themselves into thinking "its not that bad"? Wasn't that what happened with the US prior to WW2? Isn't that what's happening now, to an extent, with the surge in Islamic terrorism? Maybe if we had a machine that could take us to the future, we could for once learn from the past.