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I would prefer a 3D engine to a 2D one.
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[Roe said:
And you wish to post flawed examples...why?
I did. You first went on about how poor the game was made into, then bitch because it wasn't presented in the manner in which you like. Aside from the fact that you implied you were playing the PS2 version, it really doesn't take much imagination that if you're playing the console version, it would have been made for the console. However, the game was made to work differently on both. I merely pointed out how flawed your analogy was.
That being said, it sounds like you hate the entire series through your statement about "Like I said... I don't like 1st and 3rd person shooters or action games..."
Which is it, or are you too busy tapdancing around?
Yes, this is a forum, and certain things should be observed. The foremost one is that if you post ignorance, people will not be hesitant to point it out to you.
Sorry, but you're the one who stuck his finger into the Light Socket of Netiquette. Don't bitch about getting what you receive in that case.
Then keep it to yourself, along with any other crappy half-ass analogies you wish to share as well.
Opinions posted as an example cease to be an opinion unless you are talking about yourself only or another opinion.
Let's not forget the stupidity involved when you post opinion as fact:
"When I play GTA 1 or 2... I can't compare it with anything else AND THAT is what makes it different and unique..."
So because of your feeble familiarity for other games, that is what makes it "different and unique". Egocentric, much?
Do you really want me to comment on all the stupid things you've said in the entire thread, versus just a couple of points? I could very well do so, there's a lot of material there. Either that, or I could ask Kharn to flog you into paying attention to what you've written.
Good, because you certainly aren't helping yourself otherwise.
So, [Roe] Snake, you like the FOT engine because it's shiny. Hold still for one small moment...
Let me put it clearly for the other people who are stroking themselves off on FOT's engine.
1. Buggy to an extreme, especially with the burst fire and other aspects.
2. Unfinished.
3. Has many errors inherent with it that are result from trying to put RT and TB into the same game.
4. The graphics are hardly representative to Fallout, as MicroForté had repeatedly fucked up the setting more often than not. The only person there who had any obvious clue was Gareth (Section8 here).
5. The design of FOT, from a squad-based strat, is shit. Pure shit I'd expect from a 10 year-old as it's a simplistic rat maze with some token side paths for characters of other skills.
6. It sometimes runs on Sloth mode, even for the most modern of computers. Oh, they don't know why, either.
7. It sometimes doesn't run at all on some computers, for the same reason as 6.
8. MicroForté owns the Phoenix Engine, so for Interplay to re-license it would be a really foolish thing to do since they'd not only have to wade into the general mess of the game's code, they'd have to try and get the bugs out. While that is possible if you have some competent testers and programmers, Interplay has little hope of even licensing said people from another company at this point.
9. Most 3rd-party developers aren't interested in having anything to do with Interplay, mainly because nearly everyone who has ended up screwed in turn or having to take Interplay to court.
10. About the DeathClaws, they were from Jackson's Chameleons and were not hairy at all in the finished design. Saying that they had hair initially in design and using that as some method to validate their hair in FOT would be like saying that Stallone is a good Terminator since Cameron looked to him first but Ahnold got the part and added his own touches to the character. This goes back to book authoring and screenplays. Nothing else matters except for the presented material and that which directly relates to it, since that is what is (duh) presented as a finished piece.
11. There's far better engines out there that could be modified for the Fallout uiniverse than trying to make FOT or anything like FOT into a full blown CRPG instead of merely a post-apocalyptic dungeon crawler. From a development perspective, far more work would have to be done with the FOT engine to make it work for a real Fallout CRPG title than taking another engine entirely. The structure design has holes in it, and I'm talking about deep down how the building pieces are handled in the engine (rare shooting through corner tiles of enclosed buildings, anyone, or was that fixed in one of the pathes?). There's many other gripes that I've seen from many of the FOT modders, mainly the gripes are that they can't get rid of these bugs and they want to.
EDIT: [Roe] Snake, if you keep doing this and also posting flamebait over in the F
OS forum, then you will earn a special new rank I've just made. The avatar that goes along with it is just as irritating as you are.Role-Player
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Roshambo said:
Stallone is a good Terminator since Cameron looked to him first but Ahnold got the part and added his own touches to the character
While i'm not apologizing for MF or anything (far from it), i wasn't very much against the DC's in Tactics being furry, due to the afforementioned design docs; but i understand what you mean with the final presentation being more important than elements that were left back in the design stages.
Sander said:Just ignore megatron if you must, he's the local spammer.
Yeah because
Sander [2.39% of total / 7.09 posts per day]
Megatron [0.45% of total / 1.00 posts per day]
OMG TEH SPAMMZORZ!
Back 'on-topic'
Snake: You're a fucking moron, speaking in contradictions and bullshit. I don't judge people based on there opinions, so long as they back these opinions up. It doesn't even matter if they fail at that, so long as they don't babble like whatever the fuck you were spewing out.
Also following up your pathetic flame post directed at me based on lack of sleep. How original, I've never heard that excuse before. Perhaps you should just go to fucking sleep if you can't handle it. I also find it a little amusing that you use more and more '...' to space out your sentences when you get emotional.
Cheers.
Gwydion said:
Hehe...he did play an android, more than once.
Now he's playing the inspiration for the Bishop models:
Alien Vs. Predator (2004) (filming) .... Charles Bishop Weyland
Weyland, as in Weyland-Utani. All I can say about the movie is it's about damn time, it's been thrown about so much.
Another role he's going to appear in is this one, one of my favorite horror series ever (although I've only seen up to IV), especially for the lines, character designs, and a bit of the storywriting behind it:
Hellraiser: Hellworld (2004) (V) (post-production) .... The Host
Everyone who has watched the Hellraisers should know the Eulogy of Pain:
Pain?!
How dare you use that word.
What you think of as pain is only a shadow;
Pain has a face, allow me to show it to you.
Gentelmen, I...am...pain.
Then another fave:
The Priest: You'll burn in hell for this!
Pinhead: Such a limited imagination!
I rather enjoyed most of the forms and transitions of the movie, but the sadistic side of Pinhead is what draws out the character most, even if it adds a little camp. You can hardly have a horror character be taken truly seriously anymore if they speak, though there are some exceptions. The series and writers never took it too seriously, which is a good thing, since Pinhead is one of the more creatively made villains, which makes it easy to cheer him on. Pennywise is still the best, I think.
[Roe] Snake
It Wandered In From the Wastes
You people aren't old enough to talk about these things... you just keep on flaming other people for their own opinion... You have nothing better to do I guess !
Good luck !
Good luck !
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Worst. Comeback. Ever.
megatron said:Sander said:Just ignore megatron if you must, he's the local spammer.
Yeah because
Sander [2.39% of total / 7.09 posts per day]
Megatron [0.45% of total / 1.00 posts per day]
OMG TEH SPAMMZORZ!
Irrelevant. You are a Spammer because you never add any thing useful to any debate, every post you make is either garbage or flame.
Again, untrue. At least I attempt to add to the discussion everytime, even if it's with a short comment after the silliness. I'm not bothered about post-count, I can easily get at least 100 posts a day. If I wanted to annoy you all you'd probably know about it? Instead people just ignore me and I post.
So shut up thnx.
So shut up thnx.
I agree with Meggy.
His words may sometimes be laced with a little "tuff luv", but he almost always has something constructive to say along with those lines as well.
And believe me, you would know if he was spamming or trying to be nothing but an annoying troll. You're talking to the DaC legend who made Goatse seem like Sesame Street material.
His words may sometimes be laced with a little "tuff luv", but he almost always has something constructive to say along with those lines as well.
And believe me, you would know if he was spamming or trying to be nothing but an annoying troll. You're talking to the DaC legend who made Goatse seem like Sesame Street material.
No, I'm not saying that at all.
I'm saying that this is him being mild. And it's not anything that I find to be too extreme anyways. He posted some relevant information, and he just added some flava to it.
[Roe] Snake, on the other hand, posted bullcrap and expects us to respect him about it, which is pretty darn foolish. Then he lectures us about nettiqutte, which if you look up clearly states that flaming is a natural and healthy online activity. If he can't handle the heat, then he shouldn't whine about it, no matter how politely he does it.
I'm saying that this is him being mild. And it's not anything that I find to be too extreme anyways. He posted some relevant information, and he just added some flava to it.
[Roe] Snake, on the other hand, posted bullcrap and expects us to respect him about it, which is pretty darn foolish. Then he lectures us about nettiqutte, which if you look up clearly states that flaming is a natural and healthy online activity. If he can't handle the heat, then he shouldn't whine about it, no matter how politely he does it.
[Roe] Snake
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Ozrat said:
This is actually getting funnier by the minute... But ok, I can see your point... but I still think that if you say that I posted bullcrap, you should still agree with me that it is still my opinion and there is no reason to call me a an idiot for it...
I try to stay polite but I can not bite my tong...
And I don't care if anyone is a mod or a long term forum member... If anyone is flaming for wrong reasons and calling other people names then your status doens't matter... and I still wont bite my tong.
" I Don't dance unless I hear some music, I don't scratch unless I have an itch ! "
Saint_Proverbius
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Baboon said:
That's some mighty perception you have there, being able to look at the screenshots and see the music that was playing when they were taken.
I take it you haven't played Silent Storm. The Western part of Russia, last checked, was in Europe.
Now, I don't care much for Silver Style making "Fallout 3" either, but to say all European development houses and games suck is pretty damned silly.
Which part of the Big List O' Reasons I posted wasn't clear? BioWare has never made anything close to Fallout.. Remotely close. And they never will as long as they keep on their current path of recycling dialogue responses for multiple dialogue choices, inserting silly puzzles as well as the solution to those puzzles, not allowing the player to attack someone because they're super important to their idea of the story, and so on. Let's also not forget that instead of making an actual turn based game, they're just trying to re-write the definition of what turn based is to fit their games so they can claim they make turn based CRPGs. Then there's the whole Choose Good or Evil at the Very End so we can Show One of Two Ending Movies thing BioWare loves so much.
None of those things will work in a Fallout game, yet they're all par for the course in BioWare games.
BioWare isn't American, BTW.
[Roe] Snake
It Wandered In From the Wastes
You have a good point... But still doesn't explane why they can not do it... I have made several mods for several other games and they are all different types... so I can not see why the shouldn't try...
The thing that bugs me most is that there is no solid answer to the question if it will ever be made... and that's maybe why everyone is so on edged about this topic... (atleast... that's what I think)
The thing that bugs me most is that there is no solid answer to the question if it will ever be made... and that's maybe why everyone is so on edged about this topic... (atleast... that's what I think)
POOPERSCOOPER
It Wandered In From the Wastes
[Roe said:
or...perhaps...we...dont...like....people....who...dont...know...what....they...are...talking about?
[Roe] Snake
It Wandered In From the Wastes
POOPERSCOOPER said:
And you do ? Who are you do judge anyone ?
Smart remarks, can't find anything else to say ??? Get a life...
You know we all wubz you meggy.
Besides that, I might've said teh flamer or teh provocateur. Whatever it is, you're always making people get pissed off...which is why people who can't handle it might be better off ignoring those posts. Like [Roe]Snake.
PS: European development houses automatically being crap is the an incredibly stupid line of thought. *sigh*
[Roe] Snake
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Who likes to be called an idiot for just posting your opinion about a very good subject... but the subject got lost somewhere... and that's what pisses me off... People are just quoting each other, flaming the hell out of others... while I rather see people comment on the subject...
and yeah, I might get pissed at people for calling me names and saying I don't know what I'm talking about... Let me just tell you that I don't follow every word that hits the internet, I just give my opinion on what I know... and if people think they know more about something... well hell, let them... but that's not a reason to flame others because they just give their opinion based on what they do know...
Sure... I think if someone would have called you an idiot and a moron... you'd be reacting the same way... I guess !
Well, I hope we'll ever get back on topic cause I can use the idea's and opinions for my modding project on FOT.
Greetz
and yeah, I might get pissed at people for calling me names and saying I don't know what I'm talking about... Let me just tell you that I don't follow every word that hits the internet, I just give my opinion on what I know... and if people think they know more about something... well hell, let them... but that's not a reason to flame others because they just give their opinion based on what they do know...
Sure... I think if someone would have called you an idiot and a moron... you'd be reacting the same way... I guess !
Well, I hope we'll ever get back on topic cause I can use the idea's and opinions for my modding project on FOT.
Greetz