Muslim Poster Kills Himself While Online (?)

It's just the conventional "Here's the room of those who care" from Spamvault. If the guy's dead, then nothing can really be done (other than conquering and occupying the Arab world to weed out Islam and prevent such situations). If he was joking, then fucks to him.

Anyway, I feel obliged to commend CCR for his effort, but I fail to see the importance of such a discussion here.
 
And why is that? This is a part of the whole board for socialising, community-building and discussing other things that aren't covered in the other parts of the board. This is a very valid topic.

Also, you joined today, and made a couple of mistakes. What makes you think you know what is appropriate here?

CCR: It's understandable that you feel somehow involved here, but you should realise that you did everything you could to stop him, that he made this choice himself, and that there is no way you could have stopped him. He made the choice to do this himself, he could have done other things, but he didn't. Respect that.
 
Predictable. It's for real, I know that. He threw up a hell of a lot, and is now considring how to get the fuck out of Ishfahan without being caught. Going with his cousin, it sounds like. Trying to find a way to Tehran so he can get to either Europe or Canada.

All very unlikely. He'll have to find a fake passport, and fake a South Eastern Iran Arabic accent.
 
Fawkon said:
I agree, i really dont see as the type of forum where we should discuss such things...
This one is actually a very mild conversation. Considering John's (CCR, stop changing nicks dammit) usual M.O. when debating anything that touches religion. I'm impressed that it hasn't gotten any worse.

On topic: That sucks that the kid thought he didn't have any other options, but I'm not going to sympathize. He made his choices.
 
John Uskglass said:
Predictable. It's for real, I know that. He threw up a hell of a lot, and is now considring how to get the fuck out of Ishfahan without being caught. Going with his cousin, it sounds like. Trying to find a way to Tehran so he can get to either Europe or Canada.

All very unlikely. He'll have to find a fake passport, and fake a South Eastern Iran Arabic accent.

After reading this whole thing... I am relieved to hear that. Some would call this a curse. I am 100% compassion. If I could kill myself for a drug addict to live and maybe make a difference in someone else’s life I would. Call that crazy if you will but that is me and always has been. I cry for those who have died with no name I bleed for those who have no one but themselves. I am VERY glad this kid lived and decided to take flight over fight. If he can land himself in an embassy he has a chance of asylum. Please keep me updated
 
Maphusio said:
After reading this whole thing... I am relieved to hear that. Some would call this a curse. I am 100% compassion. If I could kill myself for a drug addict to live and maybe make a difference in someone else’s life I would. Call that crazy if you will but that is me and always has been. I cry for those who have died with no name I bleed for those who have no one but themselves

Really, then why are you still alive? That kind of bleeding would kill a man. That kind of crying would dehydrate one to death.

Stop being such a hypocrite. It's easy enough to shout empty words into the void, but how much have you really done for your fellow man?
 
Kamikaze said:
one question:why?
Because This isn't the first of these suicide logs and surely not the last one. These kind of topics bothers me a lot, not because I would care if some anonymous person committed suicide... I don't see any reason why to take this case here to discuss. There are allready one topic about this particular case http://70.84.159.180/~languish/forums/index.php?showtopic=19308&st=45 go there if you have something to say. I am sorry, but I think NMA just have to wait his own suicide topic. Then you guys can romp freely.

Kharn said:
Also, your name is an abbreviation in Dutch for the school subject called "Cultural Art Schooling", or sumfin'
Oh that's hmm interesting. It's also abbreviation from Caravan Kari Väätänen ky, but mine nick abbreviation comes somewhere else.
 
Come on Kharn, go easy on poor Maphusio here. I mean, just look at him, no wonder he's so sad... :lol: (j/k)
 
Just because we care for otehrs we don't know but can't do anything for does not mean we're hypocrits.
 
uziel said:
Just because we care for otehrs we don't know but can't do anything for does not mean we're hypocrits.

And yet it does. Do you spend every morning digging through a large number of newspapers to see who died, where and how? Do you read all the obituaries and pause at every one thinking "oh, how sad?" Heck, do you even try to alleviate people's suffering where you can?

If the answer to all or any of the above is "no", then you are being a hypocrite by saying you're a sensitive person and we're insensitive bastards just because you say "oh, how saw" when someone shoves a death (suicide attempt) in your face. 'k?
 
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John Uskglass wrote:
Predictable. It's for real, I know that. He threw up a hell of a lot, and is now considring how to get the fuck out of Ishfahan without being caught. Going with his cousin, it sounds like. Trying to find a way to Tehran so he can get to either Europe or Canada.

All very unlikely. He'll have to find a fake passport, and fake a South Eastern Iran Arabic accent.


After reading this whole thing... I am relieved to hear that. Some would call this a curse. I am 100% compassion. If I could kill myself for a drug addict to live and maybe make a difference in someone else’s life I would. Call that crazy if you will but that is me and always has been. I cry for those who have died with no name I bleed for those who have no one but themselves. I am VERY glad this kid lived and decided to take flight over fight. If he can land himself in an embassy he has a chance of asylum. Please keep me updated
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Maphusio wrote:
After reading this whole thing... I am relieved to hear that. Some would call this a curse. I am 100% compassion. If I could kill myself for a drug addict to live and maybe make a difference in someone else’s life I would. Call that crazy if you will but that is me and always has been. I cry for those who have died with no name I bleed for those who have no one but themselves


Really, then why are you still alive? That kind of bleeding would kill a man. That kind of crying would dehydrate one to death.

Stop being such a hypocrite. It's easy enough to shout empty words into the void, but how much have you really done for your fellow man?






This is an example you dumb fool. dont you ever disrespect a man that lives for these people and would give his very life to save another. you dont know anything about maphusio nor do you know how he feels. if you werent a cold hearted bitch maybe you could actually do something for your fellow man or at least feel for them. its people like my friend maphusio here that can make a difference in the world. he actually works helps and does all the other stuff for people in need of help and i commend him for it. you however prolly never leave your house and just loaf here on your lazy fat ass doing nothing. if this post gets me banned so be it at least i was here and heard. i feel sorry for the guy who killed him self. sometimes people just need more then one person to make a difference and obviously he was hurting for attention which no one would give him. im a firm believe in religeon and the calling of god. maybe it was his time. maybe it was stupid but thats not the point. the point is most of you here care for no one but your damn selves which is why the world is as fucked up as it is. i tell you what. how about go join the islam army with your cold heated selves so i can come over there with our United States Navy seals and waste you all to hell. wait. no i wont. your not worth my time. later.
 
Kahrn, I think you are getting a bit extreme again.

You have drawn a division that either one is very emotionally involved in everythings (the ultimate bleeding heart) or one is emotionally cut off from the rest of the world except where one has some personal contact.

Anything caught in the middle you label hypocracy.

Yet we know people can empathize at different levels of guilt or compassion or sympathy. A person can hear the story of someone and relate to in in some abstract way, through their imagination or through analogy to their own circumstances. People give to charity, discuss tragedies, light candles in churches, hold vigilis, all sorts of activities.

Ok, so maybe we can write that all of to our own narcistic desire to have some notion of self that is caring and compassionate.

If so, maybe that's a good thing in that it makes us more humane as a people.

Afterall Kharn, there had to be a reason why you went to Russia to work with orphaned kids. Perhaps it was all selfish or maybe it was partially other-regarding. At least you did something. In that sense CCR is doing something similar in that he is showing some compassion for a very troubled person.

This case of making divisions is fallacy- a false choice between two extreme positions.
 
:lol: Looks like jz55 joined only to post that.

People go all emotional huffy-puffy "i cry for the world" and "im a sensitive man, when i bang i do it careful" not because some random guy died, but because you people pointed it out. Now he feels bad to know that another guy died and /rant.

Just don't upset the Weenie, it might backfire with a rant on how much he cares and how cold hearted the people with a bit of realism are.http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/weenie.htm
And as i said before, it's every person's own choice wether he wants to live or die, should i feel sorry for the fact the guy has at least some freedom over his own life (or death for that matter.).
 
WOW... that was a bit extreme... what can I say people love or hate me. And they go to extra lengths to do so.
 
jz5500 said:
This is an example you dumb fool. dont you ever disrespect a man that lives for these people and would give his very life to save another. you dont know anything about maphusio nor do you know how he feels. if you werent a cold hearted bitch maybe you could actually do something for your fellow man or at least feel for them. its people like my friend maphusio here that can make a difference in the world. he actually works helps and does all the other stuff for people in need of help and i commend him for it. you however prolly never leave your house and just loaf here on your lazy fat ass doing nothing. if this post gets me banned so be it at least i was here and heard. i feel sorry for the guy who killed him self. sometimes people just need more then one person to make a difference and obviously he was hurting for attention which no one would give him. im a firm believe in religeon and the calling of god. maybe it was his time. maybe it was stupid but thats not the point. the point is most of you here care for no one but your damn selves which is why the world is as fucked up as it is. i tell you what. how about go join the islam army with your cold heated selves so i can come over there with our United States Navy seals and waste you all to hell. wait. no i wont. your not worth my time. later.

Please try to quote properly, to use grammar, punctuation and the "Enter" key.

Interesting you didn't notice the guy didn't kill himself. Guess you cared enough for that, huh?

I find your statement about the Islam Army quite daring and slightly offensive. I think you need to think a little bit more before making statements like that. It's good to know the concept of love involves Navy Seals wasting people, though. Isn't it a grand age?

welsh said:
You have drawn a division that either one is very emotionally involved in everythings (the ultimate bleeding heart) or one is emotionally cut off from the rest of the world except where one has some personal contact.

Anything caught in the middle you label hypocracy.

No, that's not the point. I don't call CC a hypocrite for caring about this kid, I don't call people who say "that's a shame for this kid" hypocrites.

Hypocrites are the people who grab this chance of a single individual's suffering to proclaim their universal love and caring for mankind.

Almost every indivdual in the world, except for some nutcases on both extremes, care for a limited amount of people. Fine, that's great. They see on the news India got flooded, they give to charity to help the poor people. Excellent, more power to them.

But it would still by hypocritical of them to claim they "bleed for everybody's suffering". They don't. Nobody in the world has the time or the energy to cry over all fallen ones. It is hypocrisy because these people claim they care for everyone that dies, but they don't even bother to attempt to know about everyone that dies. How can you not call this hypocrisy? It is very simple, they claim to feel something that they don't, namely universal co-suffering with mankind. This makes them hypocrites and liars.
 
Hah well Maphusio i have nothing against you :). At least i did not say you were a hypocrite.

You see there is one universal truth and you need to put it into action.
You need to STOP caring.Just stop.
 
jz5500 - One should learn more about this site before attacking an admin. Consider yourself duely warned.

Kharn- I agree. Those who cry cheap tears from vicarious living need to pay some dues for their broken hearts.
 
I skipped half this crap because its too long. But I must say, all 16 year olds who "try to commit suicide" are just full of angst. There is nothing you can do to warrant yourself to want to commit suicide. I agree with Kharn, if this kid is pussy to live, pfft.

Also, when I was in high school, I met a few girls on the internet who did the same thing... talked to me online and on the phone while they were "commiting suicide"... and its all a cry for attention. It's lame.
 
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