Muuuuuuuslim Baaaaaan! But don't call it that!

valcik said:
Putting pogrom fueled by German national ideology commited on Slovak citizens by German authorities on the same level with random violent incident where criminal group worked as a catalyst? This caught me by surprise actually, never expected such stupidity here.
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I take that as compliment.

I am at least not a fucking racist when it comes to the Roma. Seriously, clean your house of all those biggots and racists, Valcik. And treat the Roma finally like people and not like second class citizens. At least I don't rationalize the killing of a nutjob, because some of the people he shoot have been 'maybe' criminals or people on wellfare.
 
Dr Fallout said:
Damn, maybe we need Iran to annex Saudi Arabia before committing mass genocide there.
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Lots of sand (aka useless land) and Arabs likely to become jihadists. Why would Iran want that? Its like wanting them to annex Afghanistan. Sure they speak the same language (farsi) but its a mountainous war zone filled with terror groups.
 
CT Phipps said:
The problem with that, Captain J is that the ban isn't actually about their religion but bans them from their countries which means everyone born in those countries is banned. Which means that it's racism since ethnicities are generally moved on national lines. Kinds of bigotry and prejudice are very often linked.
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If you are going conflate nationality with race, then every international policy is racist. Jus soci is racist. Jus sanguinis is definitely racist. Visas are racist. Tariffs are racist. Military alliances are racist. Trade agreements are racist.
Dr Fallout said:
OOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!
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I can't argue with that.
 
CaptJ said:
If you are going conflate nationality with race, then every international policy is racist. Jus soci is racist. Jus sanguinis is definitely racist. Visas are racist. Tariffs are racist. Military alliances are racist. Trade agreements are racist.

I can't argue with that.
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Dumb analogy is dumb given with the exception of Iran, which many Americans don't realize isn't an Arabic country, all of those nations are Arabic.

But I'm trying to figure out if you're kidding or not about not seeing systematic bias.

Just look up NSEERS.
 
CT Phipps said:
Dumb analogy is dumb given with the exception of Iran, which many Americans don't realize isn't an Arabic country, all of those nations are Arabic.

But I'm trying to figure out if you're kidding or not about not seeing systematic bias.

Just look up NSEERS.
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How many of those countries would let someone with an Israeli passport in? Also, if it is targeting Arabs, then why did you call it a Muslim ban?
 
Crni Vuk said:
And treat the Roma finally like people and not like second class citizens.
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We do actually. Every single gypsy here in Slovakia got free education, social benefits, medical care, and everything else granted by our constitutional law. Those who got it right are working, living in their own houses, law abiding citizens. Those who got it wrong would receive exactly the same treatment from us as any violent Moslem in Germany though:

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Absolutely.

Roma people suffer serious discrimination in Slovakia. Roma children are segregated in school and do not receive the level of education as other Slovakian children. Some are sent to schools for children with mild mental disabilities. As a result, their attainment level is far below average.[16] Amnesty International’s report "Unfulfilled promises: Failing to end segregation of Roma pupils in Slovakia" describes the failure of the Slovak authorities to end the discrimination of Roma children on the grounds of their ethnicity in education. According to a 2012 United Nations Development Programme survey, around 43 per cent of Roma in mainstream schools attended ethnically segregated classes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people_in_Slovakia#cite_note-17
 
Oh yes, Amnesty International.. They have forgotten to add the most important part. Many gypsy parents don't send their kids to the school in order to keep them occupied by organized criminality all day long, since underaged criminal gangs can't be prosecuted by our law. This often results in gypsy kids skipping class and ending with much younger white kids, and unless you've visited such class or have your own kids in such class you don't have the slightes idea what you're talking about.

Hey Vuk, one more thing - the family killed by Harman was white actually according to wiki, with some gypsy boyfriends/girlfriends/prostitutes/drug dealers mixed in. Your major plot about racial terrorist attack on innocent gypsy family was based purely on your leftist prejudices man. What a bigotry..

Google search for "škola Plavecký Štvrtok" to see more proofs how badly are gypsies segregated - the only city school destroyed by gypsy students, physically assaulted teachers lefting the place, and so on. Human rights my ass dude.

edit: Teachers asking for protection, other have to lock up the classes with younger kids since the older students tend to kick out the doors in the middle of the class in order to rob younger kids, teacher suing aggressive student for physical attack, you name it. Unless you live close to gypsies you know jack shit.

 
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So Trumpy Cheese's Alternative Facts staffer is even making up whole cloth "Massacres" to justiy the ban while "Nationalists" murdering innocent people go without a word by them. How can anyone keep defending this shit? Even if you are scared shitless of all that Muslim terrorism you barely experience in comparisson to all the other forms of crime in your country you can't seriously get behind this clown and his school of douchebag Facsist wannabes.
 
valcik said:
Hey Vuk, one more thing - the family killed by Harman was white actually according to wiki, with some gypsy boyfriends/girlfriends/prostitutes/drug dealers mixed in. Your major plot about racial terrorist attack on innocent gypsy family was based purely on your leftist prejudices man. What a bigotry..
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Look who's talking, using such big words like bigotry here and 'prejudice'.

valcik said:
Hartman killed them because they plagued whole apartment block by their criminal activities for many years - drug distribution, prostitution, you name it. What a strange coincidence that they also happened to be unemployed gypsies living on welfare, coincidence nonetheless. On the other side, there are countless incidents from the opposite spectrum - bunch of gypsies killing local resident in knife fight, plucking out the eyes of their victims, and so on. Clearly nasty racist terrorist attacks and not just random violent criminality, according to your logic, since the victims are ethnic Slovaks and not gypsies, right?
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Crni Vuk said:
Wrong link? There is nothing.

The requested thread could not be found.
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The link works perfectly fine. It's your post bringing up that killing spree basically calling it terrorism.
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Plz.
Doesn't mean your nation is free of terrorism in general.

PRAGUE — As Slovakia held a day of mourning Thursday to honor the victims of Monday’s violent rampage in the Slovak capital, Bratislava, a picture began to emerge of the killer, an unemployed loner who the police said had participated in shooting contests and may have harbored resentment against his Roma victims.

The killing spree, in which six members of a Roma family were killed — including a 12-year-old boy — has shaken Slovakia, a small and predominantly Catholic country. It also has spurred a national debate about the assimilation of the country’s 380,000-strong Roma community, who typically live on the margins of society, stigmatized by poor levels of education, alcoholism and an image of lawlessness.

A debate over xenophobia against the Roma, also known as Gypsies, has been raging in recent months across Europe, most recently in France, where the government deported Roma living illegally in the country. But the issue is particularly sensitive in Slovakia, a young country that was part of the former Czechoslovakia and is still grappling with how to integrate its ethnic minorities while forging its national identity.
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Police said the killer, 48-year-old Lubomir Harman, who shot himself after being cornered by the police, lived in the same building as his Roma victims. Single and living alone, he had been jobless since August 2008, and had legally acquired six weapons.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/03/world/europe/03iht-slovakia.html

That's as close to a 'suicidal killer' as it can get in my eyes.
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Hassknecht said:
The link works perfectly fine. It's your post bringing up that killing spree basically calling it terrorism.
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For a second the link wasn't working.

I sometimes wonder if alt righters fear of refugees taking over the land and massacring the natives and instate their religious rule is like their version of White Guilt? Projection? or are they lacking in self awareness that much?
 
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Yeah ... evil me for tricking Val into thinking for a second there would be... slovakian terrorists! With my unbeatable rhetoric and manipulative skills!
 
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