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quietfanatic
Ancient One
Sander said:
Troy was decent. Gladiator was excellent, but most new films are rubbish, just like most new music. Do remember that for every great film there are always plenty of poor attempts in the same time frame. If only more moments of genius emerged in all fields so that we would have truly great film. I belive that it is the talent of individuals more than their social context and current fashion that defines if a film is outstanding. It is not so much what you do, but more how you do it.
Azael said:
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6788
Kharn said:
Of course, the European version has been announced by now. Fuckers.
Paladin Solo said:
This attitude is exactly the problem. If we expect nothing more from movies than for them just to be popcorn-entertainment, why should they be anything more than popcorn-entertainment?
If you scroll up a bit you'll see a short argument by my hand talking about how movies weren't originally intended to just entertain, and that this is in no way a positive trend.
Truth be told I am weary of all these fun and entertaining superficial and often stupid flicks. I've had enough of being just entertained, and I'm fed up with thinking "oh, that's fun". I want to be *challenged*, I want to think for a second, or go "Jesus Christ that's deep". But ever since 9/11 (seriously, think back to that date movie-wise), it's been so scarce. Lost in Translation was pretty much the only film of the previous year that was not just superficial fun.
quietfanatic said:
Gladiator is a modern-day classic, it should not, *ever*, be compared to these massive epic pointless flicks which are just about mind-boggling special effects (nobody finds it weird that "great special effects" means having masses of ant-size people run around. As if that's so challenging)
Seriously, take the trailers from Return of the King, Troy and Stone's Alexander and put them back-to-back. Then try to figure out which one is which. All of them is just ant-size people running around fighting each other. BORING.
Also, the human mind always holds on to good memories more fervently, and thus the good old days always seem better.
Cinema worldwide is still going through a massive dryspell in this post-9/11 era, tho'
Malky said:
Yeah, that is what we're talking about, yes.
Kharn said:
The "Statue of Liberty" thread started as a derail in this thread - I left Malk's and Big_T's comments in here because they wouldn't have made any sense in the new thread......although I guess they don't make much sense in this thread either, heh.
Paladin Solo
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
here's a chick who would disagree w/you troy haters:
(she goes by 'bitch')
Troy - GOOD flick. Good job with the casting. Characters made you feel something. Even though you know what is going to happen (if you ever read the Illiad) it's still very well done. It has been quite a few years since I read the Illiad so I couldn't tell you HOW close it follows. I'll probably pick the book up here in a month or so..just out of curiosity and because sick as I am...I enjoy reading Homer. Oh and MAJORLY hot guy and fairly hot guy.
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(she goes by 'bitch')
Troy - GOOD flick. Good job with the casting. Characters made you feel something. Even though you know what is going to happen (if you ever read the Illiad) it's still very well done. It has been quite a few years since I read the Illiad so I couldn't tell you HOW close it follows. I'll probably pick the book up here in a month or so..just out of curiosity and because sick as I am...I enjoy reading Homer. Oh and MAJORLY hot guy and fairly hot guy.
ps
you don't have to register to post there.
Yeah eom, just send everyone to Asshelmets....
I saw "The Day After Tomorrow" or whatever its caled yesterday. Interesting to see, but not that great of a movie. It's like they combined every nature horror flick into one, and added crap actors. The "cute girl" wasn't even that cute.
I saw "The Day After Tomorrow" or whatever its caled yesterday. Interesting to see, but not that great of a movie. It's like they combined every nature horror flick into one, and added crap actors. The "cute girl" wasn't even that cute.
SkynetV4
Mildly Dipped
Personally I think Troy is trash. It had good actors in some roles (O'Toole, Bana and a few more) but I think the screenwriter took too many artistic licenses (sp? I don't know if you say it in the same way in English as in Spanish). Menelaus, Agammemnon and Ayax die?! WTF?! Thats in complete contradiction with the Odyssey! Achilles gets it on with Briseid?! He loved Criseid, not Briseid (two completely different women). These are the most blatant licenses. How does David Benioff dare to change a script to differ from Homer?! Does he put himself in the same level?! I can't fucking believe this.
Emmerich should combine his movies, The Day After Tomorrow, Godzilla, and Independence Day. You could have Godzilla riding in on a tidal wave destroying New York to fight aliens who are also destroying New York (so Godzilla can destroy New York without interference).
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Kotario said:
Actually, that sounds like that Gozilla movie with the Lobster that I memorized in Japanese when I was young. Boy was I a weird kid.
I just rented Big Fish under welsh's advice after a nice Lebanese dinner. Good evening.
Big Fish was definitely a nice movie, but sad ending... Reminds me of when my grandma was in the hospital. *sniffle*
Anyway, I just bought the Enter the Dragon 2 disc set and the Master Collection off of amazon. Should arrive late this week. mmmm martial arts.
Anyway, I just bought the Enter the Dragon 2 disc set and the Master Collection off of amazon. Should arrive late this week. mmmm martial arts.
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Generally I liked Big Fish alot. Ewan McGregor is one of my favorite actors not alive during the second world war, and this, though not his strongest, is still a strong performance. Albert Finney was really great, and, again, nice to see Jessica Lange again, thought she developed a heroin habit after Cape Fear or something. Also liked the French girl, but I'm attracted to anyone with a French accent not in Pulp Fiction, to be honest.
I think it's as much about the idea of a perfect death as anything, kind of like The Barbarian Invasions, only you don't want to dance after seeing that Commie's death.
Also liked the war sequences, but primarily because I love hearing Korean spoken, as it sounds like some Mandarin trying to speak some archaic Japanese.
Not enough Steve Buscemi, and I kind of expected Michael Madsen to come in and shoot everybody in a certain sceen.
Overall to much of a dependance on sublots and not enough connection between the two timelines. I fealt like I was watching a group of short films connected by a central plot at one point.
Still, worth renting.
I think it's as much about the idea of a perfect death as anything, kind of like The Barbarian Invasions, only you don't want to dance after seeing that Commie's death.
Also liked the war sequences, but primarily because I love hearing Korean spoken, as it sounds like some Mandarin trying to speak some archaic Japanese.
Not enough Steve Buscemi, and I kind of expected Michael Madsen to come in and shoot everybody in a certain sceen.
Overall to much of a dependance on sublots and not enough connection between the two timelines. I fealt like I was watching a group of short films connected by a central plot at one point.
Still, worth renting.
I saw Shrek 2 and THe Day After Tomorrow both yesterday and here's my thoughts:
Shrek 2: Don't dismiss this one a just a child's flick. There's tons of stuff to make it entertaining for everyone. It's mixes tons of quite humourous pop-culture refrences right in with the tons of fairy tale refrences. One of my favorite parts is when they're watching the medievil "Cops" called "Knights" and one of the nights takes out a pepper mill and grinds pepper into a guys face.
The Day After Tommor: As far as a story and plot goes: it sucks. But as far as bitching weather CG effects go: it rules. It's starts out pretty fucking awesome with tornadoes ripping up L.A. and bitching storms raging everywhere then it's gets boring for a good while, then suddenly TIDAL WAVE, then it sucks for another hour then SNOW then WOLVES for some reason then it sukcs until the end, which sucks. Worth a rent when it comes out just to see the weather effects.
Shrek 2: Don't dismiss this one a just a child's flick. There's tons of stuff to make it entertaining for everyone. It's mixes tons of quite humourous pop-culture refrences right in with the tons of fairy tale refrences. One of my favorite parts is when they're watching the medievil "Cops" called "Knights" and one of the nights takes out a pepper mill and grinds pepper into a guys face.
The Day After Tommor: As far as a story and plot goes: it sucks. But as far as bitching weather CG effects go: it rules. It's starts out pretty fucking awesome with tornadoes ripping up L.A. and bitching storms raging everywhere then it's gets boring for a good while, then suddenly TIDAL WAVE, then it sucks for another hour then SNOW then WOLVES for some reason then it sukcs until the end, which sucks. Worth a rent when it comes out just to see the weather effects.
EyeMaster7
A Smooth-Skin
Wooz69 said:
Did you noticed the link between Spiderman and Van Helsing ? When I saw that movie I thought Tarzan was going to appear. They keep swinging on ropes all the movie. And there is no character development. The "I'm not a Monk, I'm a Friar" guy is completely out of place. And dracula.... Bela lugosi is turning in his grave. I'm not saying more about the movie to not spoil its surprisingly ending
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take that script to hollehwood man! i'm sure they'll love it 8)
Anybody seen Prisoner of Azkhaban yet?