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Big_T_UK said:
Meh. I don't agree with the people that think books/comics/whatever should be translated literally to the screen. A movie is a work of art, so a lot of artistic liberties can be taken. However, as a director you do need to remember you're using the name and work of another artist. You don't need to remain loyal to every word of the original, but you could at least show it some respect and keep the feeling of the original.
If it's pulp, you make a pulpy movie. If it's serious, you make a serious movie. Troy does not show the necessary respect.
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Tonight.Murdoch said:
That's kinda what I meant.Kharn said:
If you love something to the extent that you cannot bear to see it changed, then do not seek out versions of it in other formats. They will be so different to the original that, to you, they will suck.
Things that "work" in a book will probably not work in a movie (and vice versa). The director has the choice of keeping everything the same to please the fans but make a poor movie, or to make a good movie and piss off the fans.
LOTR, as the book is, would not make a good movie. The movie of LOTR would not make a good book.
I would expect the same with Troy (only moreso) and any thing else at the cinema.
Big_T_UK said:
The movie of LotR would also not make a good movie...wait, it doesn't.
You're not catching one point of mine. If you're a director, you're working with someone else's baby, and you need to love and respect it, and keep the original feeling of the book intact. That's a responsibility you *do* take on when you pick up an original and translate it.
I never said it did, I carefully refrained from saying it did. I didn't voice my opinion on the actual film so as not to revoke a "LOTR roxxors, but it was too lonng!!11one!!1" post.Kharn said:
That said, the film sucked.
Would anybody who cared anything for responsibility, respect or proprietorship go into the film industry?
Also, would anybody who loved a book, not that it was literature, but it was a damn good adventure story, make a movie out of it?
The Fellowship movie was mediocre, I couldn't even sit through the others.Malky said:
I disagree, and it very much depends on which one of the three movies you're talking about. The first was probably the best, The Two Towers was quite decent, and Return of the King dragged on for too long, and had too many really bad director's decisions in it.
Yes, people who love film and like to make them.
Yes, again. Peter Jackson, for instance, seems to have really loved LOTR. And even if he didn't, there are plenty of examples where good movies are mode from good books. (Look at Stephen Fry's director's debute film, it's supposed to be really good, and it's based off of a book).
Big_T_UK said:
Yes it did. Sander, be quiet. The first film was quite good, the last two were just big-budget pointless epics.
Big_T_Uk said:
Excuse me? Are you referring to the film industry as a second rate industry?
Goddammit! Film-making is an art, it should not be taken lightly. Remember DeMille, remember Eisenstein, remember Tarkovsky, remember Murnau, remember Bergman, remember Leone.
True, Hollywood has turned the industry into quite cheap whoring out of whatever it can get its hands on, especially post 9/11, but that doesn't mean great, respectful films can't be made. We still have Kitano.
Big_T_Uk said:
Because he knows he has the skills to make this particular book into a film that is not identical, but has the seem feeling, and shows the original proper respect. Like, say...Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, the Godfather, One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest.
And the real kicker...Dr. Strangelove. Left little of the original left, but even the author loved it.
Malkavian said:
Zatoichi still hasn't been released here...
Wasn't even announced last time I checked, but it's set for release on nov/dec here, I think, might well be something similar over yonder.
welsh
Junkmaster
Chronicles of Riddick-
From IMDB-
Apparently it's not Pitch Black, which I really liked.
Are Vin Diesel's days numbered?
Anyone else?
From IMDB-
Ok, who didn't see this coming?
Apparently it's not Pitch Black, which I really liked.
Are Vin Diesel's days numbered?
Anyone else?
Vin Diesel = a good and promising actor who constantly appears in shitty films
I enjoyed Pitch Black, I loved Boiler Room, and I even liked A Man Apart. He shows a lot of promise, but he keeps doing movies like XXX and Riddick. It boggles the mind.
Maybe he needs a new agent.
I enjoyed Pitch Black, I loved Boiler Room, and I even liked A Man Apart. He shows a lot of promise, but he keeps doing movies like XXX and Riddick. It boggles the mind.
Maybe he needs a new agent.
King of Creation
Vault Fossil
Murdoch said:
Yeah, I saw it on Sunday. I think I already posted in the other movie thread about it, whatever. It was a good movie, the best of the three so far. There were, however, a few complaints I had: The movie seemed very "rushed." It appeared to me that the scenes had a sense of speed, and they always appeared to be a little too short. As a result, the entire movie seemed rushed, and even though it was like 2 hours long, I was left with a feeling of "Whoa, is that it?"
Also, I really could have used more Gary Oldman. He got minimal screen time.
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
I have just got the following movies on Netflix. This is among the best days of the summer
City of God (already seen, will attempt to buy)
The Tin Drum
The Triplets of Bellville
Spellbound
City of God (already seen, will attempt to buy)
The Tin Drum
The Triplets of Bellville
Spellbound
Constipated Craprunner said:
That's slightly sad.
I'm going to see The Stepford Wives sometime this week. I enjoyed the original, this one looks good. I'm glad they added a little satire and humor into it, and Walken is always a treat.
Plus, Nicole Kidman with short brown hair = teh hawt
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
If that's sad then.........sadden me up mister!Malkavian said:
I hate vin diesel, i think he is lousy actor, but as we say in Norway : smaken er som baken; den er stor, den er delt og den er hårete.
Saw seven samurais the other day, it was good.
Peter jacson, by the way, is a wartridden penis. And i think he hates the lord of the rings. The movies did not capture the feel in the book, was packed with special effects, and was also all too action based. Stupid and comersialised. This comes from a person who has read the book 18 times and seen each movie at least 3 times for each movie. Me.
Saw seven samurais the other day, it was good.
Peter jacson, by the way, is a wartridden penis. And i think he hates the lord of the rings. The movies did not capture the feel in the book, was packed with special effects, and was also all too action based. Stupid and comersialised. This comes from a person who has read the book 18 times and seen each movie at least 3 times for each movie. Me.