NFL 2010

TwinkieGorilla said:
my fucking god was it fun watching Peyton throw fits and pout last night.
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Yeah, if you like watching Peyton Manning pout, last night was priceless. He spent the last quarter and a half looking like he'd been sucking on a lemon. :mrgreen:

That was the most exciting preseason game I can remember watching. Pretty dang good.

I was really happy with what I saw from the Pack. Burnett looked great at safety. That was a nice pick by Ted. Better yet, Clifton and Tauscher both looked healthy and played well. If Green Bay can get one more good year out of both those guys, it should be a nice season.
 
UniversalWolf said:
TwinkieGorilla said:
my fucking god was it fun watching Peyton throw fits and pout last night.
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Yeah, if you like watching Peyton Manning pout, last night was priceless. He spent the last quarter and a half looking like he'd been sucking on a lemon. :mrgreen:
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Not to take anything away from the Packer's D, but this was total gamesmanship on Manning's part. Him and Polian are all pissed off about the umpire placement rule since it stifles their chickenshit tactics that prevent def. substitutions and exploit 12 men penalties. Evidently, Goodell was in attendance and they had designs on showing him how stupid they think this rule is and that it's detrimental to Pey-Pey's game. :crazy:

It's an umpire safety rule. It's an unintended consequence, not a vast conspiracy as Stampede Blue would have you believe.

Besides, Polian and the Colts bitching to the top about the rules, they never do that. :roll:

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Here ya go:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5504506
One day after Manning drew two penalties for illegal snaps at Green Bay, coach Jim Caldwell pleaded with league officials to re-evaluate a change that forces players to wait for the umpire to get into his new position before the ball can be put in play.

The league wasted no time in responding to all the complaints.

"The movement of the umpire to the offensive backfield will happen in the regular season," league spokesman Michael Signora said in a statement given to The Associated Press on Friday. "We continue to analyze and review the impact of the change in the preseason, and we may announce some adjustments to the mechanics of the position prior to Week 1."

Colts players and coaches think refinements are an absolute necessity after Thursday night's debacle in Green Bay.
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Homos.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
Not to take anything away from the Packer's D, but this was total gamesmanship on Manning's part.
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That's true. My response to the Colts would be, "Aaron Rodgers didn't seem to have a problem with it."

Although the 2nd string defense got a couple good licks in on Manning when he stayed in the game into the 3rd quarter. That really seemed to irritate him.
 
Well to be fair, refs directly impacting play by being too slow is something you really want to avoid as a league. Their safety is more important, though, and the way they were being used as picks on crossing routes (by, say, the Pats) wasn't any good either.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
Not to take anything away from the Packer's D, but this was total gamesmanship on Manning's part. Him and Polian are all pissed off about the umpire placement rule since it stifles their chickenshit tactics that prevent def. substitutions and exploit 12 men penalties. Evidently, Goodell was in attendance and they had designs on showing him how stupid they think this rule is and that it's detrimental to Pey-Pey's game. :crazy:
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uh, yeah. duh. tuck your shirt in fag. this doesn't mean he wasn't crying because his team's ass got handed to him as well.

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Sander said:
Well to be fair, refs directly impacting play by being too slow is something you really want to avoid as a league. Their safety is more important, though, and the way they were being used as picks on crossing routes (by, say, the Pats) wasn't any good either.
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yeah. because it was such a problem for the last few decades. :roll: let's face it...this is no different than all the pussification rules Peyton has pushed for. this one's just on the other side of the fence and he's fucking crying.
 
TwinkieGorilla said:
yeah. because it was such a problem for the last few decades. :roll: let's face it...this is no different than all the pussification rules Peyton has pushed for. this one's just on the other side of the fence and he's fucking crying.
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It was a problem enough for me to notice it last year. Refs getting hit by 220lb men at full speed is not something they want happening.
 
of course not. nor do they want players to get concussions. nor do they want wide receivers finding any obstacles in their path. nor do they want quarterbacks getting a finger laid on them.

face it n00b, do some historical research. for over 40 years men have been beating each other up in this league without crying about it. now, the black and blue divisions have become the pink and pretty. the old days are gone, the game is becoming sterile. i still love it, but some of these sacrifices are just plain ridiculous.
 
I don't like how they're calling roughing on "defenseless receivers" now. I've seen it a couple times now (I think they got Bob Sanders the other night), where the safeties are just playing good football and get flagged for it. Do they expect people to let the WR get the ball and get two feet down uncontested just because he has his back to you?
Sander said:
and the way they were being used as picks on crossing routes (by, say, the Pats) wasn't any good either.
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Picks? When the Patriots do it, those are rubs. :P
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
I don't like how they're calling roughing on "defenseless receivers" now. I've seen it a couple times now (I think they got Bob Sanders the other night), where the safeties are just playing good football and get flagged for it. Do they expect people to let the WR get the ball and get two feet down uncontested just because he his back from you?
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Yeah, I don't like the change either. It's not just defenseless receivers, it's defenseless ball carriers now so the rule's been expanded.

I think (not sure) that they're mostly penalizing leading with the helmet and hitting to the head/neck area, and they're still allowed to hit lower than that.
 
TwinkieGorilla said:
for over 40 years men have been beating each other up in this league without crying about it.
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Players beating each other up has nothing to do with protecting the refs from bodily harm. C'mon, the refs aren't getting paid like the players to take hits, damn right they shouldn't be hit. Or abused.

Cimm said:
I don't like how they're calling roughing on "defenseless receivers" now. I've seen it a couple times now (I think they got Bob Sanders the other night), where the safeties are just playing good football and get flagged for it. Do they expect people to let the WR get the ball and get two feet down uncontested just because he has his back to you?
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The problem is how much attention they pay to helmet-to-helmet. If something sounds like a helmet banging into a helmet. Or if a player is using his shoulder but looks like he's using his helmet. It's all defenseless receiver.

Good on yer for preventing concussions but it's not really possible to prevent these situations, Mr NFL.
 
Nice clip of Rodgers and Manning, Twinks. Pretty much sums it up. Really Manning had no good reason to be that much of a sourpuss. He was great in the first quarter. Bob Sanders looked great, too. Don't know whether he's going to make it through a whole season though, the way he hits people.

Flynn actually looked decent running the offense in the second half, as did the kid from Texas Tech.

Watched some of the Seattle game last night. Your new safety's looking good.
 
UniversalWolf said:
Nice clip of Rodgers and Manning, Twinks. Pretty much sums it up. Really Manning had no good reason to be that much of a sourpuss. He was great in the first quarter.
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You got it right man, Brees, Brady and all other hurry-up/no-huddle teams were somehow able to function without that rule impinging on them.

The end-result here is that defenses can put their best personnel on the field to deal with most situations. I fail to see how having the best talent on the field is a bad thing for the competitiveness of the NFL.

Whether intended or not it closes some really cheesy loopholes.
-can't quick snap to prevent substitutions
-can't quick snap to catch that 325 NT from getting called for 12th man as he's 6 inches from being out.
-can't quick snap to prevent a challenge on a play that probably wouldn't stand

Those are some chikenshit tactics that need to go away like the fumblerooskie. Good riddance. Can't we make it illegal to ice the kicker now too?
Purposefully snapping the ball quick just to prevent a sketchy play from being challenged isn't good football, or good sportsmanship or good anything. It's just cheesy.

Bob Sanders looked great, too. Don't know whether he's going to make it through a whole season though, the way he hits people.
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He's a joy to watch play, guys like Bobzilla are the reason I love the NFL. But yeah, his style of play isn't exactly conducive to longevity. Bullit is not too far off as his backup though.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
You got it right man, Brees, Brady and all other hurry-up/no-huddle teams were somehow able to function without that rule impinging on them.
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You're right that Manning and the Colts were out to make a point. In reality I don't think this rule will really hamper them too much during the regular season.

I watched Tebow play last night and wasn't too impressed. He was pretty accurate, but he locked on to single receivers and never looked anywhere else, which is why he threw a pick. I'm also still seeing a big windmill windup when he throws. A good defense in a regular season game is going to eat him alive at this point.
 
Apropos. Some people still keep the old traditions alive

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At least it was just Delhomme. If that were Favre or Brady he might well have been suspended for a year.
 
Night Train Lane would be proud.

Flags don't really matter with Favre, I think his career is going to end this year with him being carted off on a stretcher. It's worth taking the penalty to retire him. I would love nothing more than to be the guy that ends the all-time Ironman's career.


McDaniels was high to draft Tebow in the 1st. He's not a starter by any stretch yet. I don't know, is this some ploy to pander to the Beck/Palin middle American bible-thumpers?
Dude, just no crying press conferences OK savior-boy?. Can you imagine the tears if Dick Vermeil coached Tebow?

edit: Pats D is going to be brutal this year now w/o Bodden too. Best CB out and big dropoff after him, no pass rush, secondary is awfully young and very shallow. This is a bad blow, on top of Warren. This D is going to get shredded like a pulled pork sandwich. Mmmm pulled pork.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
Flags don't really matter with Favre, I think his career is going to end this year with him being carted off on a stretcher.
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He's definitely pushing his luck this year. I agree there are going to be pass-rushers and d-coordinators out to get him. I expect full attack mode from the Saints, for starters. They'll probably get flagged in a regular season opener though.

I drafted him late in my money league, and I'm trying to trade him before the season starts.
 
Blocking sleds are for pussies.

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I watched Tebow quite a bit against the Vikings last night. He started off horrible, but I do think there are some things he does well. He throws a pretty good deep ball along the sideline. He seems to understand how to put that kind of pass in the right place so the receiver can get it. He could end up being a Byron Leftwich who can run and has better instincts (which would be a pretty good QB). He doesn't look like a bust, but it remains to be seen how good he can be ultimately, since he still has some bad habits and is very raw. I wouldn't want him starting for a couple of years.

His arm strength didn't wow me, but it seems adequate (to continue the Leftwich comparison, I think Lefty has a stronger arm). It could be better than I think though, since I've never seen Tebow really air one out in a game. He's definitely got to try and lessen that windup. I noticed the Vikings specifically going after it on several occasions.
 
Almost there gentleman, at this time next week I'll be planted firmly on the couch cursing the Patriots D. My optimism was fleeting...ahh, at least I can watch the Jets go down in flames.\

Woody Johnson is off the reservation, he's not with the fucking program man. Breaking ranks and violating the unspoken collusion that the competent owners had going. Spending money like water, resigning guys with 3 years left. Weakness.
 
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