NFL 2013

Guiltyofbeingtrite said:
In the US, murder is simply the greatest circus. Now to research the current second string NE TE.
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Or first string, rather, with Gronk on PUP. Now the fact that they nabbed Jake Ballard off Giants' waived/injured seems even more brilliant. Apparently Zach Sudfeld's an exciting rookie, too. But still, owtch.

Eh, they'll still win the AFC East. That division's shit anyway.

PS: Adam Schefter
Aaron Hernandez charged with murder and five gun-related charges; pleads not guilty.
 
He's probably cooked, he was seen with the victim, they were friends, hernadez was dating his fiance's sister, and they were arguing before the murder. That coupled with all of the obstruction of justice charges from destroying evidence is bad. He also should have turned himself in instead of getting taken away.
 
I was wondering what it would take to rekindle some activity in this thread. Now I know: REDRUM!

The rumor I heard was that Hernandez (or one of his associates) killed Lloyd because he thought Lloyd was going to spill the beans about the previous shooting.

P.S. I believe the guy you're looking for is Zach Sudfeld.

I might target Gronk in my fantasy draft. If he falls far enough the reward/risk quotient becomes attractive.
 
Seattle is making alot of buzz, but I think their mightly overrated. That WR corp is slightly frail. Harvin, Rice, Tate... All within the realm of a good hitting safety..
 
Hm... For some years i felt curiosity about this whole NFL thing, but never got very far with that. Any tips how to soften the introduction part?
 
AskWazzup said:
Hm... For some years i felt curiosity about this whole NFL thing, but never got very far with that. Any tips how to soften the introduction part?
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If you just want to learn to understand the game, there are plenty of resources like this:

http://www.rulesofsport.com/sports/american-football.html

I picked that one because it's basic and it seems to have been written by someone from Europe using soccer terminology.

I think the most important thing to understand is the concept of "down and distance," which is explained nicely in the third paragraph:

Each team gets 4 chances (downs) to move the ball 10 yards forward. Once they pass the 10 yards their downs reset and they start again for another 10 yards. After 4 downs have passed and they have failed to make it over the 10 yards required the ball will be turned over to the defensive team.
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You'll frequently hear phrases like "first down and ten," meaning it's the offensive team's first chance (out of four) and they need to advance ten yards before their set of four chances will reset. If they run a play but don't advance at all, the next chance would be "second down and ten." If they run another play and advance six yards, the next chance would be "third down and four." If they run another play and advance ten yards (six more than the four they needed), the whole thing resets to "first down and ten."

That's probably the trickiest thing to learn, but once you understand it the rest can be figured out by watching games.

Another thing that's different from most other sports is that each team has a separate set of players for offense and defense. When Team A has possession of the ball, it will be the offensive players from Team A against the defensive players from Team B. When Team B has the ball, it will be defensive players from Team A against the offensive players from Team B.
 
Syphon said:
Seattle is making alot of buzz, but I think their mightly overrated. That WR corp is slightly frail. Harvin, Rice, Tate... All within the realm of a good hitting safety..
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I don't think Tate's missed a game in his career, nor Miller. But Harvin, Rice and maybe Baldwin are a little more fragile. But uh yeah, that's five high-level pass-catchers, from elite down to very good, seems like it's pretty much built to sustain a couple of injuries.
 
UniversalWolf said:
If you just want to learn to understand the game, there are plenty of resources like this:

http://www.rulesofsport.com/sports/american-football.html
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Thanks.

UniversalWolf said:
I picked that one because it's basic and it seems to have been written by someone from Europe using soccer terminology.
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Actually, the interesting thing, is that Lithuania, as an exception, is probably the only country in Europe, where basketball is vastly more popular than soccer. I was a huge basketball fan too, though that declined after i crashed my back and knees playing it.


UniversalWolf said:
That's probably the trickiest thing to learn, but once you understand it the rest can be figured out by watching games.
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Just checked the season start information and a thing that seems pretty bizarre to me, is that there are 2 conferences that have conferences within them.. What the hell, i read that this is because of the merger of two leagues in the 70', but what is the purpose of that now?

In nba, which i watched until now, (but getting tired of the disparity, where a bunch of players always seek to teamup (the self proclaimed king being the most hated one of them), ring bandwagoners etc.) it's a simple western and eastern conference structure. The league, season structure in nfl kind of makes me scratch my head a little bit, so many strange things. :)
 
AskWazzup- Madden really helped get me into NFL, if that helps...

Bro None- Yeah but can Tate or Miller make anything happen behind Revis, Barron, Goldson and Wright? Nope. Rice and Harvin might have a lil' speed edge, but with Rice's dry hip and Harvin's nack for pussity, TB is gonna beat SEA's ass, you watch :)
 
Syphon said:
Bro None- Yeah but can Tate or Miller make anything happen behind Revis, Barron, Goldson and Wright? Nope. Rice and Harvin might have a lil' speed edge, but with Rice's dry hip and Harvin's nack for pussity, TB is gonna beat SEA's ass, you watch :)
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Haha jeez, you're a Tampa Bay fan? You may want to hold off on trash talking until you guys look halfway competent again. Though to be fair, you guys did beat us last three times we met.

Also it does help if you actually know a team before badmouthing them. Harvin, Tate and Baldwin are the speed guys. Rice is more of a Fitzgerald-lite.

I like the Bucs just fine, but unless Freeman has a breakout season (a second one, I suppose), you're not much of a threat, elite secondary or no (especially if the front four continues to struggle on defense).

Also shouldn't you look to Atlanta or NOLA before worrying about your one game against the Hawks?
 
NO's is a little dry on WR talent but with Brees, you always give a benefit of the doubt. ATL? I don't think Ryan will make the reads when things are tight. Also if he does, will White & Jones really stand up to Goldson and Barron? I don't think so, but I'm a homer.

SEA's pass rush looks enemic atm if both of your DE's are coming off injury. Clemons and Bennett, though M.B. will be alright off the get go. Kinda mirror in TB to be honest.
 
You have a lot of faith in the magic power of a completely untested secondary. Yeah it's a lot of talent, and yeah it should significantly improve the defense, but you might want to wait to see them in action before you talk about them shutting down entire receiving groups. You sound like an Eagles fan with their dream team secondary, a few years back.

Clemons and Bennett are not our bookend starting DEs. Clemons would be starting, but Cliff Avril is a pretty damn good replacement. Bennett's more of a different-spots play-some-snaps guy, not a starter (well, he might start for the four weeks with Clemons and Irvin both out). Also the mirror with TB kind of breaks apart when you consider we already had an elite D, while you had a below-average one.
 
Your underestimating Bennett who had 9 sacks last season, and plays the run even better. Also, you might want to lower Avril's pedestal considering the supporting cast he had on the Lions Dline compared to SEA's. Isn't SEA's DT's Mebane and Hargrove?

Ha, Eagles dream team? Asomugha is a mancover and shovedinto zone scheme isn't very wise. I knew that was a crock from the get go. That scenario isn't even as close to TB's situation. Revis, Goldson, Barron, Wright + #1 Run D might be more impressive than Phillys paper champs.

SEA's secondary shines so much only because Niner's passing game is so weak. Niners status quo elevates SEA good secondary into people overhyping them as elite. Don't get me wrong, their back four is great but who are they usually covering? Crabtree? Boldin? Davis?
 
AskWazzup said:
Actually, the interesting thing, is that Lithuania, as an exception, is probably the only country in Europe, where basketball is vastly more popular than soccer.
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I knew basketball was popular in Lithuania but I didn't know it was more popular than soccer.

AskWazzup said:
...there are 2 conferences that have conferences within them.. What the hell, i read that this is because of the merger of two leagues in the 70', but what is the purpose of that now?
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Yes, it started out as two independent leagues, the original NFL, or National Football League, and the AFL, or American Football League. A long time ago they merged. The new league retained the name National Football League, but divided in two conferences, the NFC (the original NFL teams) and the AFC (the AFL teams). The Super Bowl is the match between the champion of the NFC and the champion of the AFC. It recalls the rivalry of the two leagues when they were separate.

Each conference is divided into four divisions (North, South, East, and West) of four teams each. The four teams in each division are grouped by geographic proximity and/or historical rivalry. For example, the NFC North consists of Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, and Minnesota, while the NFC South is made up of Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, and Tampa Bay. The winner of each division gets into the playoffs automatically. That's the primary purpose of the divisions within the conferences -- to determine playoff teams.

Syphon mentioned Madden. If you have access to a console you could buy one of the NFL Madden games. That would really help you understand the rules. EA stopped making PC versions after Madden 2008, but you can still find a copy of that somewhere, I'm sure.
 
Not much mention of he broncos on here...I'm no fan of theirs, but I would pick either them or the pats as superbowl favorites for the afc, and I'll go with packers or falcons for NFC (eagles fan by the way, so no bias)
 
Wasn't thinking too much about the Broncos. If not next year, I'm sure Peyton still has a few years in him
 
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