Nonsensical Elements in Fallout 3

Discussion in 'Fallout 3 Discussion' started by Dakilleux, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. Little Robot

    Little Robot sup Orderite

    Sep 29, 2010
    I know that this is unbelievably off-topic, but I'm pretty sure that I got guard armor throughout the game with no cheating.
     
  2. Innawerkz

    Innawerkz First time out of the vault

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    Feb 23, 2010
    It was Bill Cosby.

    I feel that it is quite possible to make everyone happy in a video game. They just have to make the differences between the difficulty modes more severe. First, design the game for Very Hard. Design it in such a way that the playtesters are truly struggling to get through the game so that arriving at 'The End' requires a combination of cunning, planning & luck. Once that is accomplished, design backwards from there, where each drop in difficulty adds more ammuniton & medicines, offers more XP and/or skill points per level and weapons/armour are found in superior condition.

    A player who enters the world on Very Easy would find their character with near perfect armour, the vendors selling the best weapons and their character reaching 100 across their skills by level 30. Nothing in the Wasteleand would be able to touch them anymore.

    Conversely, Very Hard will always require a thorough, pre-planned path to acheive the character type you were aiming for as you will have AT BEST 3 Skills (likely your tagged skills) at 100 with your next bests arriving in and around 50 - 60. To deepen the specialization, the thresholds for Perks will be much higher on Very Hard - railroading the player to commit to a style of play or suffer the consequences.

    Ideally, this would allow the designers to do away with 'Casual' mode completely so that they could focus their attention on perfecting Hardcore mode for the players who choose 'Very Hard'. Maybe if it wasn't too difficult to add in, design a new options 'checklist' for players to customize their game better: ammo with or without weight? God-like VATS mode? Thirst meter? Hunger? etc. Personally, I don't give a shit about Casual mode, but it speaks to my 'pleasing everyone is possible' that I started with.
     
  3. tnu

    tnu First time out of the vault

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    Sep 29, 2010
    That's actually a damn good idea you should send it to some3 developters I'd love a modular options menu in such a way.
     
  4. tnu

    tnu First time out of the vault

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    Sep 29, 2010
    I don't know i just have little patiance for difficulty but I enjoy alot of the gameplay and depth of RPGs and Action RPGs in perticular. Not to say I don't enjoy other RPGs I'm fine with some of the "limiting" elemetns in KOTOR games for example I LOVED KOTOR II but in an open game like the Elder Scrolls or Fallout games part of the fu n is maxing yoru stats and eventually reachign perfection. and if you don't have that it becoems a sort of "what's the point" to me making a game harder does not increas its replay value it just makes it frustrating. I tend to give up REALLY easily thats why I havn't gotton back to old fashioned Sidescrollers. Am I a horrible person for having these prefrences? a horrible uneducated peice of trash? I get the impression thats what you all think. Also I don't see why I should have to compremise my charectre build or be forced sutck with one charectre build because I don't like the idea of lugging ammo and meds.
     
  5. Dr. Combat Shotgun

    Dr. Combat Shotgun First time out of the vault

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    Aug 19, 2010
    Why someone even bothers complaining about "hardcore"-mode? I hardly noticed the whole thing in NV after realising there was even more loot lying around than in F3. But seriously, tnu, work on that grammar if you hate being treated as uneducated asshole. These forums are crowded with elitist polish FO-nerds thirsting for your blood.
     
  6. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    The correct term is "play pretend". It's rather sad to publicly admit they play pretend in a computer role playing game and call that "roleplaying".
     
  7. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    Apr 24, 2005
    I am calling it "imagination games". Oblivion is only a great game if you imagine yourself every shit. Like you wrote, pretending / imagining to be a guard and running around with a torch in the night. There was even some wiki page about it in some TES wiki. It's so stupid, my brain can't fit it.

    /Edit: Found it.
     
  8. Threepwood

    Threepwood Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Nov 4, 2010
    Pahahahaha! Thanks for that, it's comedy gold!!! "Take off your shoes when you enter your house." AHAHAHA!

    "f you are role-playing a job for which you should be paid, you can receive your pay in multiple ways:

    * Pickpocket your pay from the person you're dealing with.
    * Duplicate items to then sell for your pay "

    Oh my god, I cant take any more.
     
  9. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
  10. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    Apr 24, 2005
    It was posted at The Vault first, but got deleted very fast.
     
  11. Little Robot

    Little Robot sup Orderite

    Sep 29, 2010
    Wow, those are some amazing ideas.

     
  12. Faceless Stranger

    Faceless Stranger Board Drifter

    Aug 19, 2010
    :wtf: No, seriously, what. The. Fuck.
     
  13. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Welcome to the future of roleplaying ...
     
  14. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009
    Ofcourse most of the stuff what the people do there is ridcolous, but what's wrong with "roleplaying" some small tics and stuff that your character has, even if it is "imaging it"? I'm not speaking about "OMG my character was raised by alienz" ofcourse.
     
  15. SharkClub

    SharkClub Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 6, 2008
  16. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    Nobody is saying anything against "roleplaying minor things". But imagining to be a city guard and running around, even though the game doesn't support this (so you are 100% making shit up) is just bullshit.
     
  17. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009
    Yeah I was more talking about, let's say as example wearing a scarf for the mouth when there is a desert storm etc.. But I see where you're coming from, read the Oblivionarticle now, really a gem of entertaiment. :clap:
     
  18. Threepwood

    Threepwood Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Nov 4, 2010
  19. Requete

    Requete First time out of the vault

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    Aug 9, 2006
    Tried to find similar "wonder" about Morrowind and failed. Which is propably a good think since I liked Morrrowind a lot. :wink: