Obsidian Announcement on 6th of December

Is this gonna be the game that shits on Bethesda's next title?

 

I'm worried Tim has learned his lesson to focus on debugging at cost of mechanics depth, which would result in more polished but more streamlined product:
https://rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=8416

 

That quote does worry me, because it implies that one shouldn't care about doing something interesting if the reviewers aren't going to care about it.

 

Don't forget about the triangle idea he had that would replace traditional skills in favor of streamlining.

 

That third image kinda has an Arcanum feel to it. Could it be a sequel with retrofuturistic Jules Verne-style space travel? I mean, Boyarsky worked at Blizzard for years, so maybe he got the rights from Activision somehow?

 

Looks pretty cool, actually.

Read the first post of the codex user Kyl Von Kull on this page

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...yarsky-announcement-on-dec-6th.119594/page-23

 

Kyl Von Kull does make it sound better. But i'm still scepitcal on how this triangle thing will work out if he uses it for the game. I just really hope that this will be real rpg like vampire the masquerade and new vegas.

 

Yeah, the whole triangle thing seems to make it impossible to have perfect characters. Perfect as in 10s across the board. So an actually good thing.

 

True, I still perfer traditional numbers though. I don't know why tim thinks numbers are too confusing for a general audience. Every RPG even the most casual and popular ones use numbers.

 

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Don't get me wrong I'm skeptical of the triangle fiasco thing too. But I think it could also work if done right. I think anything can work if done right. Open worlds can suck or be great, linear games can suck or be great, so on and so forth. Most ideas for game design, in my opinion, are not inherently bad they usually just consist of bad execution of them.

Even removing skills/attributes is not inherently bad, as long as you aren't trying to appeal to RPG players. That said, even if Fallout 4 was aimed at Borderlands fans or FarCry fans, that iteration of SPECIAL and the perks was terrible despite whether or not it was something for a role playing game. Just ignore that genre part for a second and look at most things in that game. They still sucked.

 

Sounds mildly promising.

If they can somehow bring interesting gameplay and RPG systems into a modern mainstream game, I'd really be fine with that.

 

A good RPG should be able to handle all 10 characters as well as all 1 characters, even provide special content for those cases. Those kinds of limitations on character creation basically kill role-playing and force people to min-max skills and stats. Just let the player create whatever character he or she wants precisely.

 

Completely disagree on 10s characters, limitations breeds creativity. Being able to make all 10s characters makes me question why should i create a limited character when i can just create a perfect character and roleplay from there.

Being able to make 1s characters is fine because most of the time they are made for challenge runs or just to see special content.

My point is that i think 10s characters are just bad design. All characters should have at least one flaw.

 

Good rpg should never have 10s charaters. like classic fallout.