Dream Theater could create quiet, instrumental music, and do it very well, I'm sure they'd take doing Fallout 3 soundtrack seriously, and come up with something effective, quiet and brooding. (Opening of "Dance Of Eternity" for example.) And of course I've heard Fallout's soundtrack. Please don't take me for a fool.
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Then why are you taking Kotario for a fool by asking whether he's listened to Dream Theater when clearly his comment shows that he has?RPGenius said:
And the opening of "Dance Of Eternity"? That's not quiet or really 'brooding', unless you mean the first three seconds or so in which you hear nothing but a bass tone. The quick bursts of snare drumming on top of a bass drum with a neat bass line over it is not something for Fallout's atmosphere. Compare that to 'Maybe' and 'A Kiss to Build a Dream On'. And see what I mean.
As for using that for atmospheric music, no. Go play Fallout again and really *listen* to the background music. Try to get a real feel for it. Then come back and listen Dream Theater right after it. Fallout's music is very subdued, and very simplistic. And that's how it's meant to be. Dream Theater's music, on the other hand, is very extravert and very complex, with many different measures within a song, and extremely demanding for a musician.
For a quick Dream Theater reference, try the intro of Home, right up to where the drums come in. Now that could be used for a bit of atmospheric Fallout music, but as soon as the drums kick in it's much too...full and heavy for Fallout. And you have to remember that for Dream Theater, that first bit is simplistic and really 'empty'. While Dream Theater does these things from time to time, it's not what they do best nor what they want to do,.
RPGenius said:
And there's still a big difference between Dream Theater, Led Zeppelin, and the styles used in Fallout that make it clear why they used the previous songs.
If you're not going to bother trying to think of something that fits, don't even bother posting this crap about using plagiarized blues, as I know you're not being foolish enough to mention their other records.
Houses of the Holy? Oy...
Sander said:
*Smacketh*
I'm not Kotario.
Ontopic, yes, I know Dream Theater. Yes, I know who they are, thank you. The Rob Zombie line was partially a joke. Partially, because as mentioned both by Sander and Rosh, DT has nothing to do with Fallout's *opening* music.
The debate wether DT would make suitable ingame ambient music is another one.
God-bloody-damnit, I've been making this mistake for the past week or so. It's your avatar, it is.Wooz said:
Apologies, what my prior comments meant, but weren't made clear was this: While the Fallout music (which I really enjoyed, and thought worked), was great, if they had opted to go down the line of already existing songs; the ones mentioned with the lyrics cut out would've worked very well. I listen to the music alot, often running Fallout in the background for it. The music worked very well, but were they opting for pre-existing songs, those would've worked.
Again, apologies; in my tiredness when first coming across this thread I must have misinterpreted it.
How's Frank Sinatra's "Fly Me To The Moon" Sound to anyone else as Fallout 3 opening music?
Again, apologies; in my tiredness when first coming across this thread I must have misinterpreted it.
How's Frank Sinatra's "Fly Me To The Moon" Sound to anyone else as Fallout 3 opening music?
RPGenius said:
Only for Van Buren and the space station idea, but I frankly think there were out to "Lucy in the Sky, with Diamonds" about that one, which would fit more with the Moonraker plot rip (which, the book originally was from the 60's IIRC, and the movie was more modernized for the 70's), down to the time when both the song and book came out.
Fly Me To The Moon?
Oh, that just reminds me too much on Neon Genesis Evangelion.
I don't think that'd work out.
Oh, that just reminds me too much on Neon Genesis Evangelion.
I don't think that'd work out.
I know I'm necromancing, and that since you are all pretty much retro fanatics, you will probably flame me for both things, but hey. Anyway, here are some songs that I like, that might be good for the opening song:
1. The End
2. Soldier in Our Town
3. Blowing in the wind
4. Universal Soldier
5. Eve of Destruction
6. Where Have All the Flowers Gone?
7. My Reqiuem
8. Curse of Feanor
9. Ashes to Ashses
10. Somwhere Far Beyond
11. Harvest of Sorrow
12. Feilds of Regret
13. Zorros Ascent
14. Fernando
15. Swimming Horses
16. Cities in Dust
17. Demonoid Phenominon
18. Dragula
19. Superbeast
20. The Unforgiven
21. Sad But True
22. Wherever I may roam
23. The God that Failed
24. The Memory Remains
25. Fuel
26. One Tin Soldier
27. The Times They Are a Changing
1. The End
2. Soldier in Our Town
3. Blowing in the wind
4. Universal Soldier
5. Eve of Destruction
6. Where Have All the Flowers Gone?
7. My Reqiuem
8. Curse of Feanor
9. Ashes to Ashses
10. Somwhere Far Beyond
11. Harvest of Sorrow
12. Feilds of Regret
13. Zorros Ascent
14. Fernando
15. Swimming Horses
16. Cities in Dust
17. Demonoid Phenominon
18. Dragula
19. Superbeast
20. The Unforgiven
21. Sad But True
22. Wherever I may roam
23. The God that Failed
24. The Memory Remains
25. Fuel
26. One Tin Soldier
27. The Times They Are a Changing
All jolly good, but it would help if you gave, you know, each song's author.
Songs from Metallica's poorer days as opening songs to Fallout 3? What in heaven's name have you been smoking, that in no way fits with the setting or the feel of Fallout.Ekian said:
EDIT: And "harvest of sorrow" had better not be "harvester of sorrow".
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Ekian said:
Fuck Fernando
how do you reconcile disco music in the FO universe?
Bloodlust
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
LoloL oMg MichaelJaksoN RawkSS i waAnt TEh Sm00th CrIM1nAL foR teh FLAALlout 3 Opening SOnfg LolOLROfloCoptirz!!!!
Seriously,wtf??? Any song,no matter what style or type of music is apropriate for fallout as long as it's popular or trendy?Have you ever played Fallout 1&2 or just the BOS console crap?
Seriously,wtf??? Any song,no matter what style or type of music is apropriate for fallout as long as it's popular or trendy?Have you ever played Fallout 1&2 or just the BOS console crap?
Bloodlust said:
Daai blerrie fokken piels. Jou ma is 'n oop drain. Fok jou. Sit jou kop in die koei se kont en wag tot die bul jou kom holnaai. Jou piels ruik soos ou vrot kaas.
I haven't played the console game, but I played FoT before I ever heard of FO 1&2, and since I've never played completly through either, while I've replayed FoT several times, you can pretty much see my opinion of crappy pastel graphics, and retro crap, worse than absent AI, and turned based combat. I DID like the setting and the dark humor though, as well as the story line, and thought the world well created (especially New Reno), which is pretty much the only reason I care about FO3. I suppose I could be considered one of those mutants you've tried so hard to keep out.
But like I said, you are all fanatics here. You dismiss and insult anyone who deviates even slighltly from the party line. You think you have I monopoly on waht would be good in FO3.
And damn you Requiem, british moffie bastard, jou ma was nie genaai nie, jou pa het in haar poes gekak.
Besides which, you must really be living in the fifties to think any of this is popular or trendy. Anyway, have you even ever listened to any of these? The opening song has to go with the intro movie, and any movie better than tv sitting in a ruin could use one of these songs. Think of the irony of "Eve of Destruction" played
against a pic of a ruined city. Lastly, I consider Metallicas best period, and I was smoking Panama Red.
GREAT NON - RETRO 50'S SONGS
1. The End (The Doors)
2. Soldier in Our Town (Iron Butterfly)
3. Blowing in The Wind (Bob Dylan)
4. Universal Soldier (Donovan)
5. Eve of Destruction (Barry McGuire)
6. Where Have All the Flowers Gone?
7. My Reqiuem (Blind Guardian)
8. Curse of Feanor (Blind Guardian)
9. Ashes to Ashses (Blind Guardian)
10. Somwhere Far Beyond (Blind Guardian)
11. Harvest of Sorrow (Blind Guardian)
12. Fields of Regret (Alice Cooper)
13. Zorros Ascent (Alice Cooper)
14. Fernando (Abba)
15. Swimming Horses (Souixsie and the Banshees)
16. Cities in Dust (Souixsie and the Banshees)
17. Demonoid Phenominon (Rob Zombie)
18. Dragula (Rob Zombie)
19. Superbeast (Rob Zombie)
20. The Unforgiven (Metallica)
21. Sad But True (Metallica)
22. Wherever I May Roam (Metallica)
23. The God that Failed (Metallica)
24. The Memory Remains (Metallica)
25. Fuel (Metallica)
26. One Tin Soldier (Coven)
27. The Times They Are a Changing (Bob Dylan)
28. Iron Man (Ozzy)
29. War Pigs (Ozzy)
30. Crazy Train (Ozzy)
31. American Idiot (Green Day)
Ekian said:Daai blerrie fokken piels. Jou ma is 'n oop drain. Fok jou. Sit jou kop in die koei se kont en wag tot die bul jou kom holnaai. Jou piels ruik soos ou vrot kaas.
You just broke two forum rules. Do not insult other users. Do not speak in languages that most forum users do not understand.
Ekian said:
Yes. I'm sure.
Look, your suggestions were somewhat inane. Fallout's universe was grown on the basic idea of a 50's post-apoc future. 50's is a key word, especially in the opening music. This is simple tradition and fits the setting well.
Feel free to hurl more "you're all fanatics!" at us, but you'll find that calling us all fanatics isn't an actual argument. If you want to defend your selection of songs, bring forth an argument beyond personal insults. It's clear enough why your selection of songs doesn't fit the Fallout setting, this topic was raised multiple times through the entire thread. Explain to us why this is not so.
Ekian said:
You are making a grave mistake in the assumption that nobody would understand your insults. Stuff them.
Ekian said:
There. An argument. Not one that really works, though...
Most of us are familiar with most of those songs, yes.
Fallout intro movies have a tradition of being eerie. This makes for a good intro to the general setting of the game. You may have liked New Reno, but NR is kind of a deviation of the standard setting as we see in Gecko, Broken Hills, Junktown or the Hub.
To change the nature of the intro song would imply changing the nature of the game itself, since they're tied together. Why?
requiem_for_a_starfury
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Ekian said:
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requiem_for_a_starfury said:Ekian said:
I was also wondering why he was adressing someone named requiem, as no requiem had replied to him as of yet.
Scolding in Afrikaans are we? Don't, especially not when you don't even have the knowledge to know these words yourself, but have to take them from a public insult translation website.Ekian said:Daai blerrie fokken piels. Jou ma is 'n oop drain. Fok jou. Sit jou kop in die koei se kont en wag tot die bul jou kom holnaai. Jou piels ruik soos ou vrot kaas.
Whoops, troll. You almost had me with the first bit, but the bit where you especially like New Reno was overdone. Get out of here.Ekian said:
Oh, and considering Black Album and further Metallica's best period is indicative of why you consider Fallout's design inferior to Tactics.
Eyech, Green Day.Ekian said:
Plus, y'know, Blind Guardian as an intro? I love how someone would think happy-go-lucky Power Metal would be ideal for the intro to a pessimistic, post-apocalyptic world.
Ekian said:
Funny, that "retro crap" was part of the setting. Also, we're not talking about FOT2 here, if so another mangled generic rock riff might work - if they didn't give a shit about the setting.
If you think New Reno was the epitome of Fallout's design, then you are quite clueless.
No...we have the original designers' words themselves, as well as several developers on-site that can easily observe Fallout's intended design. You, however, came in with FOT and thusly it's fairly obvious you don't have ANY fucking clue of the setting, in particular when you purposefully decide to add in some irrelevant music suggestions, which makes me give you a strike for not bothering to lurk in this thread beforehand.
And you must still be high to think your idiocy has any relevance to Fallout's setting design, to miss that Fallout has a definite 50's influence, in particular the science fiction styles used.
Yes, kid, I heard most of them when they were released. Which means they don't have ANYTHING to do with this topic.
Only to your ignorance of the dark ironies and writing/fiction styles Fallout was designed along.
Hurhuhr...and I bet you thought playing Enter Sandman during the Pitch Black special encounter in FOT was fucking clever.
Metallica shouldn't even remotely be in this discussion.
Gee, thanks for the list. Now unless you want to think of some songs that suit the design, which would be exactly everything this list fails to note, don't bother cluttering up this topic again.
I was just going to snip down the list until I got to the blatantly fucktarded suggestions, but I have to note - ABBA?!
Are you sure it's Panama Red? Are you sure it isn't CRACK?!
Sure...and why not Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake while you're at it? Oh, and don't forget some GWAR and Monster Magnet, those are also rock songs I could list, each having jack shit to do with Fallout's setting.
Are you kidding me? You never bothered to play through Fallout (pathetically crappy spin-offs like Tactics don't count, as Fallout developers themselves have condemned them), you hate its artistic style, you hate its setting (and before you utter any more bullshit, '50s retro is practically *synonymous* with Fallout setting), you hate its combat system and you hate its A.I. The only thing you like is New Reno, an area that is universally regarded as the worst in both Fallout games.Ekian said:
The question is, if you hate Fallout so much, what the hell are you doing here? In case you haven't noticed, this is a *Fallout community site*. I know this is difficult to grasp for someone whose intellectual abilities are as limited as yours, but people who hate Fallout generally *aren't welcome here*. So why don't you take your moronic ideas and your hatred for Fallout and get the hell out of here? Surely you can find something more productive to do than troll here? Playing in traffic comes to mind.