aenemic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
When you have real no arguments, all you do is try to act intellectual, no?
Opinions on man made Climate Change
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Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
When you have real no arguments, all you do is try to act intellectual, no?
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No.
Climate change, caused by humans or not ... well. As Hass said, the climate changes all the time. But there are pretty much two sides here. We are the cause, or we are not the cause. Unless you believe a climate never changes, but that's a different question. The reason why I believe in human cause, is beacuse the alternative if we are wrong, isn't really great. We have to stop pollution either way. Let us say we change our habits now, and it turns out we havn't been the cause for the climate change. Well, so be it! But what happens if we don't do anything, and it turns out it was our fault? Better to be safe than sorry in this case.
The elephant in the room is the fact that we damage our environment nedlessly, and this has to stop. What ever if the climate is affected by our damage or not is irrelevant in my opinion. The fact that we pollute the ocean like crazy and that we have the technology and the opportunity to stop it, should be reason enough. As a physicists once said, we have to lower pollution anyway, so we could as well do it because of climate change.
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Throatpunch
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Yep, and I just gave 4 paragraphs of proof, so shut up.
Why exactly are "climate change deniers" denying in the first place?
What's in it for them?
What else do they deny, that they have absolutely nothing to gain from? Is it just an expression of protest?
What's in it for them?
What else do they deny, that they have absolutely nothing to gain from? Is it just an expression of protest?
aenemic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Sometimes it seems that certain people think everything is a conspiracy out to get them (most often white men) and take their comfy little lives away from them. They seem threatened by any notion of change of the status quo.
Oh, and obviously they are smarter than everyone else, so of course only because they don't think it is a certain way or because they don't see it in their surrounding vicinity, then that must mean everyone else is wrong.
Do you know how much money governments get by taxing and regulating this kind of stuff? Not to mention it's caused the formation of even more government organizations like the EPA which gives the government even more control over the daily lives of people. Theres a lot of money in keeping this thing going despite all of the prediction from all of these "climate scientists" being wrong every year.
http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/MKTNews/Global-Warming-climate-change/2014/11/17/id/607827/
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414359/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne
https://stream.org/big-money-in-global-warming-alarmism/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...es-collect-big-money-from-interested-parties/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...hange-the-hoax-that-costs-us-4-billion-a-day/
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/28/g...ce-as-much-taxpayer-money-as-border-security/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/03/global-warming-activists-dont-like-when-someone-follows-the-money/
That's a whole lotta smug for a post with a whole lotta nothing in terms of arguments. Also you did just kind of imply that most White people are conspiracy nuts who live cushy lives and use race as a reason to ignore our arguments and beliefs but I'm sure you won't get called racist. And if you think we're so dumb how about actually posting a real rebuttal?
Irwin John Finster
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
lol at those "sources."
This why i stick to complaining about videogames lol.
This why i stick to complaining about videogames lol.
True enough. But you have to admit, dennying gobal warming and the role humans play is a ... well ... a bit nutty :p.
Irwin John Finster
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Well that and trying to pass off breitbart and newsmax as a reputable source lol
You gotta at least use reputable sources for your arguments.
The articles all have the sources for their claims. Do you really think if I posted stuff like the United States' budget on environmental regulation and other large boring documents half the people here would even bother? Hell, you can't get these people to watch a 10 minute video but if you'd like me to just post a whole lot of obtuse information to look smart while ensuring that no one can actually understand what it means I guess I can. The articles aren't the meat of the argument, they're there to provide context.
Irwin John Finster
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Well i dont want to get into any heated political discussion (although science probably shouldn't even be political), but I will say that there's no way I'm going to take any of those "sources" seriously. It would be the equivalent of using MrMatty for Bethesda reviews.
Use reputable science sources for arguments about science. Or don't. Either way I guess.
Too late
A subjective review for a videogame =/= an article detailing factual information.
This is a great zinger and all but like I already said, The articles all have the necessary sources for their claims.
Throatpunch
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Lets ignore paragraphs of scientific proof and information and use articles from Breitbart. Yeah, sounds like a good idea.
Irwin John Finster
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
not trying to use "zingers," just saying you should use better sources in my opinion. It might help your argument. Cheers.
Let's ignore the 7 articles from 4 different websites that all provide sources and use snarky comments instead. Yeah, sounds like a real argument.
And in my factual opinion if you don't bother to actually look at any of them or their sources you can't really comment on their validity can you? cheers
Throatpunch
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Humans are accelerating climate change. Its so obviously not a scam. Go look back at the previous 4 paragraphs. they destroy the idea that man is not changing the climate, and its a hoax.
Nope, the theory of man made climate change is not as concrete as you've been made to believe. Not only as the Earth's temperture been pretty much rising and falling forever, it was actually cooling for quite a while around the 1940s before going through another cycle of heating. Not to mention that there hasn't actually been an actually significant increase in temperture since '97.
http://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2013/03/Whitehouse-GT_Standstill.pdf
( http://www.thegwpf.com/report-global-temperature-standstill-real/ )
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/solact.html
Not to mention that these polar ice caps that appear to be in such "grave danger" of melting, appear to actually be getting larger in recent years.
God, another one who seeks to emphasize how "theory" means that it is not fully clarified, as opposed to "scientific fact"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh
'A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation andexperimentation.[1][2] Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[3]'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh, sigh
'A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation andexperimentation.[1][2] Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[3]'
Nope, the theory of man made climate change is not as concrete as you've been made to believe. Not only as the Earth's temperture been pretty much rising and falling forever, it was actually cooling for quite a while around the 1940s before going through another cycle of heating. Not to mention that there hasn't actually been an actually significant increase in temperture since '97.
http://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2013/03/Whitehouse-GT_Standstill.pdf
( http://www.thegwpf.com/report-global-temperature-standstill-real/ )
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/solact.html
http://climate.nasa.gov/news/175/the-ups-and-downs-of-global-warming/