Outfit Construction Discussion (I NEED FAN HELP...ALL FANS!)

The Hair: if I were you I'd go with short hair. If you get into a fight it's one less thing for someone to grab onto, but I don't think it's critical so if you want to keep it long, I'd keep it long.

The Suit: I'd keep it clean. If you go for the rugged look I'd be worried that it would either a) look fake, or b) make you look like a dirty billy who people would avoid. That being said, mix in the shoulder harness, utility belt, etc. to make yourself look like an adventeurer. And most importantly wear goggles: remember the movie in Fallout 2? Or the sidekick in Roadwarrior? Goggles are a trademark of the post-apoc/desert-wanderer genre. Although they were never mentioned in Fallout 1, I think you should go with them. By some kiddie swimming goggles, and just colour the rims black with a permanent marker.

The Boots: the fishing waders would work well on a budget, but if you can I'd get some biker boots.

The Third Outfit: reference my avatar: the duster I'm wearing (oilskin trenchcoat) can be found for about $50 at any Western shop. The gas mask you can probably pick up from your local army surplus, and if they don't have it they can order it. I would recommend seeing if you can get one of the russian ones; they look far more "fallout-y," sort of like the ones in GWTBW, sort of. People may not recognize you as Tycho, but they'll definetly know what sort of genre you are dressing as.

Good luck! And you'd better post some pictures.[/url]
 
Glasses aren't really all that unrealistic. I've dropped mine loads of times, and they would merely get scratches in them. Makes it harder to see as the light catches it, but there are also those Duralens ones with the frames that you can bend around and they won't break. Plus, I think the technology during the time of fallout provides for better eyewear with lenses that are nearly indestructible. I'm sure those lenses in gasmasks and power armor are pretty strong.
 
Kahgan said:
1. Find a metal piece that it somewhat polished.
2. Sharpen your knife for two hours. Go all the way, first first a grinding stone, then a wetstone, then a sharpening steel (like the ones chefs use) then a leather strap.
3. Use the metal piece as mirror and use the knife to cut your hair to a reasonable length.

No need to thank me

oh, and long hair rocks, take me for example, a real viking with long hair, I look mean as hell.
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So thats a "yes" and "no" vote for long hair...

I do enjoy your idea though and its true. Did you see that in a movie?

The Overseer-AKA-Lord Inquisitor Baboonius said:
Maybe the VD got a hair trimmer, and could keep his hair short?
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Considered most people would ignore a hair trimmer found while scavenging that is plausible...however keeping it doesnt seem so. Whats more important carrying another pound of food or bullets or having the trimmer and being weighed down another pound that slows you enough to not dodge that next attack?

Of course...having long hair would get in your eyes and prevent aiming...

Ugh was that a vote for "yes" or "no"?

Also I'm jubilated/afraid to see an Orderite here. I thought they could be a great help being old and friendly, but I also figured they spam this thread up with "ZOMG joo is Teh Uber-nErd!".

Atomic Cowboy said:
The Hair: if I were you I'd go with short hair. If you get into a fight it's one less thing for someone to grab onto, but I don't think it's critical so if you want to keep it long, I'd keep it long.

The Suit: I'd keep it clean. If you go for the rugged look I'd be worried that it would either a) look fake, or b) make you look like a dirty billy who people would avoid. That being said, mix in the shoulder harness, utility belt, etc. to make yourself look like an adventeurer. And most importantly wear goggles: remember the movie in Fallout 2? Or the sidekick in Roadwarrior? Goggles are a trademark of the post-apoc/desert-wanderer genre. Although they were never mentioned in Fallout 1, I think you should go with them. By some kiddie swimming goggles, and just colour the rims black with a permanent marker.

The Boots: the fishing waders would work well on a budget, but if you can I'd get some biker boots.

The Third Outfit: reference my avatar: the duster I'm wearing (oilskin trenchcoat) can be found for about $50 at any Western shop. The gas mask you can probably pick up from your local army surplus, and if they don't have it they can order it. I would recommend seeing if you can get one of the russian ones; they look far more "fallout-y," sort of like the ones in GWTBW, sort of. People may not recognize you as Tycho, but they'll definetly know what sort of genre you are dressing as.

Good luck! And you'd better post some pictures.
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Thanks for all the opinion!

Your information on the questions is matching the others I would like to point out though that I also really thank you for the advice on the gas masks as I know next to nothing about them.

Sunder said:
Glasses aren't really all that unrealistic. I've dropped mine loads of times, and they would merely get scratches in them. Makes it harder to see as the light catches it, but there are also those Duralens ones with the frames that you can bend around and they won't break. Plus, I think the technology during the time of fallout provides for better eyewear with lenses that are nearly indestructible. I'm sure those lenses in gasmasks and power armor are pretty strong.
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Good point.

Bye the way thank you for bothering to read this thread and comment when you're so new. Most newbies hang around to try to discern how to act, but I can see you're not afraid to jump in. Hope you stay and I see you around the forums more!

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

P.S.

I forgot to thank PhredBean for those boot links they will be taken into consideration when I decide what boots to get. :wink:
 
but if he wants to carry around an ester egg, over some hai trimmers i don't think it's down to weight, just he doesn't want to cut his hair. oh i voted for short hair.
 
Kahgan said:
How to make one's hair look fallout-ish... use the knife to cut your hair to a reasonable length...oh, and long hair rocks, take me for example, a real viking with long hair, I look mean as hell.
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The thing is with long hair in post-apo environments that you can't have it, it's not because you look too scary or that it's uncomfortable in a fire fight, but is cause you would get diseases form it, cause it's unhygienic, cause you can't wash it every week or so cause you can't carry that much soap. What's better than carrying tons of soap, a razor or good pair of scissors, they weighs 10 to 100 grams and with them you can do so many things, like cutting your ball hairs, so you can dip them into a bowl of baby powder. :?
The world of surviving is the world of learning. :wink:
 
The pipboy must be a handheld of some kind, definitely not wristwatch style. The reason is simple - it gets inserted into computers in fallout 2. I somehow can't imagine inserting something with straps into a computer port. I'd go with an old palm, like the Palm III, mod the case a bit and make it look worn&weathered.
 
Spandex? WTF?

Look at the rendered ending sequence again.

Look at the arms, where the jumpsuit is torn.

If it was spandex, it wouldn't hang that loose.

It's not skintight, it's relatively loose (but soft/thin enough that it kinda articulates the physique -- think t-shirts, i.e. cotton).

The only reason it looks that smooth in the render is that material physics have advanced a lot since then and fabric just wasn't animatable back in the day.

Also those boots don't have to be rubber. I've seen smooth leather boots looking like that (would explain why you need *seperate* rubber boots in FO2).

The main inspiration does seem to have been the superhero wear from the golden era of comics, though.

As for the pipboy... I somehow doubt it was given a lot of thought by the devs, but I'd wager it's a handheld rather than a wristband thing.

Probably at least the size of a small radio.
 
Jarno said:
The thing is with long hair in post-apo environments that you can't have it, it's not because you look too scary or that it's uncomfortable in a fire fight, but is cause you would get diseases form it, cause it's unhygienic, cause you can't wash it every week or so cause you can't carry that much soap.
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I have to disagree there - you ever heard of dreadlocks? The hair produces natural oils which keep it clean. Do you just assume that everyone died of disease before soap was invented? And if worse comes to worse you could hack it with a combat knife. If i remember rightly i always believed the Ian model had long hair/dreads. If you're going as Ian they'd be essential!

I'm of two minds
1) Have a long, unkemp beard and dreads with a leather jacket. ( I would say buy a grey mongrel but the whole "A dog is for life, not just for conventions" springs to mind!)

2) Get a friend (or do it yourself) to cut your hair with a hunting knife and let your stuble grow for two days.
 
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Bachus said:
The pipboy must be a handheld of some kind, definitely not wristwatch style. The reason is simple - it gets inserted into computers in fallout 2. I somehow can't imagine inserting something with straps into a computer port. I'd go with an old palm, like the Palm III, mod the case a bit and make it look worn&weathered.
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I agree, and also agree with Ashmo. A wristwatch is a bit too James Bond, plus I imagine that a watch would be way too small for all the buttons and that big screen. As for the weathered look, drop it a few times on concrete and get some dirt on it (not the moist, thick kind but the dry, dusty dirt that is sort of orange in color and sticks to just about anything, like your car's back windshield).
 
Also, while I do remember FO2 saying that you *insert* the PipBoy into the computer terminal, that doesn't have to mean you actually insert it into a drive like a floppy or something. There might as well just be a big slot on the terminal or something like that.

Also, it's safe to assume that the FO2 designers knew less about how the PipBoy was supposed to look than the original team.
 
well about inserting the pipboy, it could have had a plug similar to a USB port, if not a USB. the computer might have had the plug on thing for it. just my thoughts. i haven't read the whole bible, did they say something about it in there?
 
an hardware extension-cord would be un-'50s in my book ;)

i always thought of the pipboy as a wrist computer. a bit like what predators have, but not the entire length of the forearm.

as for the inserting part? i always thought you could undock it from the wrist band & dock it into a special slot on the computer. you dont actually insert it, but slide it into the dock until it locks.
 
SuAside said:
as for the inserting part? i always thought you could undock it from the wrist band & dock it into a special slot on the computer. you dont actually insert it, but slide it into the dock until it locks.
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Exactly what I was trying to articulate.
 
Thing is the Pipboy is a thing of convenience so I would imagine it to be attached to the wrist yet It also has 3 seperate screens. One for info, one for sleeping, and one for the scanner. I imagine the screen would be the same just with different buttons to access the different features.

That said keep voting and in a month when I'm SURE everyone's commented I'll add up the votes and see whether handheld/wrist-strapped wins.

Also for reference this is my Palm Pilot that no longer works and I hope to make into the Pipboy;

http://ai.pricegrabber.com/product_images/1255000-1255999/1255172_125.jpg

Thanks for the tips on painting it, getting it dirty, scratched and otherwise looking real. I may also see if I can get it to work (it just needed to charge and wouldnt turn back on after charging) then I could somehow get it to display a picture I can hastily draw using the stylus. I'm thinking of the "falling bombs" screensaver. I doubt I can get the thing working again.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
 
Hotel California said:
I have to disagree there - you ever heard of dreadlocks? The hair produces natural oils which keep it clean. Do you just assume that everyone died of disease before soap was invented? And if worse comes to worse you could hack it with a combat knife. If i remember rightly i always believed the Ian model had long hair/dreads. If you're going as Ian they'd be essential!
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Remember the hair is just dead fiber, so it's the scalp that that produces the natural oils...
There are now 6 000 000 000+ people living in the world, and before the soup was invented there were about constant 2 000 000, so look at the numbers and draw your own conclusions. :twisted:
In harsh, and crowded conditions even nowadays(like in military, prisons, pla pla pla...), people are recommended to cut their hair short cause of the lice, ticks, and other parasites(that spread diseases), so why wouldn't they give to the post apo scouts means to survive, the most essential supplies.
 
I would go for a battered, almost roadkill look. How to achieve this?


- dress the clothes and abuse yourself as much as you are willing to go... ...meaning jumping, scratching, using sharpish tools to rip the clothes while they are ON you (very important, otherwise it won't be in the right places).

- roll in some used motoroil, mud, putt some glue or similar on the boots and roll them in sand etc. and definetly rub them into concrete/stone/asphalt whatever.

- do some plantrubbing, like carpet burns but with trees etc. Those stains look real and stick on you.

- mix some very very thin paint (like 1 part paint, 7-9 parts of water) and somewhat soak the clothes in it. Don't paint yourself, soak yourself. Use it over and over, so you will eventually get an stained look. Like sweating for the 20th time. Normal paint will just cover the areas and look like plastic toy.

- Most important. Rip the clothes FIRST, then do the rest. Otherwise the seams will look fresh...
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As for the pipboy, you have to remember, you could insert holotapes into it, and from what i remember of the game they looked to me to be about the size of a VHS tape. So, i'm thinking the pipboy wouldnt be mounted on your wrist.

i always pictured the pipboy as somthing about the size and weight as a small laptop.
 
for all we know, a holodisk is the size of one of those old dictaphone tapes. i dont think i've ever seen any evidence that they were so big.

still a bigass tape suits the '50s better than a miniature one, i'll give you that.
 
you have almost certainly already seen this but I felt it was a great example of a fan suit and wanted you to know that if you even come close to this (quality speaking) I would be proud to say that I'm a member of the same forum as you in the future. the tight blue alternative sounds like a great choice ;)

edit: forgot to supply the link... :roll:
http://www.tronguy.net/TRONcostume/
 
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