Plastic surgeries

[Gizmojunk]

But does their spine really stretch, or do their collar bones (and shoulders) drop?

I've seen images that show this form of decorative disfigurement, but this guy ~this image... it does rather look like his neck was digitally altered... because his body looks normally proportioned.

*And that all too perfect reflection on every ring. I don't doubt he has rings on his neck, but it would be trivial to double the length of the neck in that photo... Especially when the entire background is blurred.

 

[SnapSlav]

But does their spine really stretch, or do their collar bones (and shoulders) drop?

It forces the torso lower, just like corsets force the arrangement of internal organs further up the abdomen. There is no way to "stretch" your vertebrae, nor distance them further from one another, so those tribesmen with elongated necks are really just moving the proportion of "neck-to-body" ratio of the spine that the neck takes up. It's ridiculously damaging to the body to do, and removal of the rings once the neck has "grown" past a certain length can be fatal, because the structural integrity of the natural human body has been permanently dismantled. There's a reason things like these are frowned upon, and it's not just xenophobia...

 

[Crni Vuk]

Kultural reasons most of the time have reasons that have to do with traditions, the history of a tribe.

I think Yamu's point is that cosmetic surgery is cultural: it's based on the values and standards of beauty of our own particular modern culture and its associated subcultures. This includes fake breasts, subdermal implants, and everything else you mentioned. It's no different from neck stretching, etc.

*shrugs* you might think so. But I am pretty confident that at least SOME do it because of mental issues rather then cultural preasure. I would not describe people as mentaly sick using neck rings because their tribe did it for the last 1000 years, But I do agree that it's very questionable though, but I usually dont judge people for their cultural beliefs, even if they are very harmfull, because lets be honest, all cultures have their dangerous and harmfull traditions. Even western cultures.

 

[Buxbaum666]

I have nothing to add to this topic other than this story:
http://www.examiner.com/article/man...ldren-and-wins-daughter-s-looks-horrified-him

Too bad this story is utter bullshit.

 

[BigBoss]

But does their spine really stretch, or do their collar bones (and shoulders) drop?

It forces the torso lower, just like corsets force the arrangement of internal organs further up the abdomen. There is no way to "stretch" your vertebrae, nor distance them further from one another, so those tribesmen with elongated necks are really just moving the proportion of "neck-to-body" ratio of the spine that the neck takes up. It's ridiculously damaging to the body to do, and removal of the rings once the neck has "grown" past a certain length can be fatal, because the structural integrity of the natural human body has been permanently dismantled. There's a reason things like these are frowned upon, and it's not just xenophobia...

Yep. Basically if they take the rings off their necks will fall over and break like it's made out of jello.

 

[Gizmojunk]

But does their spine really stretch, or do their collar bones (and shoulders) drop?

It forces the torso lower, just like corsets force the arrangement of internal organs further up the abdomen. There is no way to "stretch" your vertebrae, nor distance them further from one another, so those tribesmen with elongated necks are really just moving the proportion of "neck-to-body" ratio of the spine that the neck takes up. It's ridiculously damaging to the body to do, and removal of the rings once the neck has "grown" past a certain length can be fatal, because the structural integrity of the natural human body has been permanently dismantled. There's a reason things like these are frowned upon, and it's not just xenophobia...

That's what I understood of it.

(The question was actually rhetorical; but that's a great answer to it.)

 

[.Pixote.]

The moral of the story - plastic surgery for children...

 

[SnapSlav]

Kultural reasons most of the time have reasons that have to do with traditions, the history of a tribe.

I think Yamu's point is that cosmetic surgery is cultural: it's based on the values and standards of beauty of our own particular modern culture and its associated subcultures. This includes fake breasts, subdermal implants, and everything else you mentioned. It's no different from neck stretching, etc.

*shrugs* you might think so. But I am pretty confident that at least SOME do it because of mental issues rather then cultural preasure.

It takes a bit from column A and a bit from column B. Mental insecurities will have no funnel to direct them towards plastic surgery if there isn't some kind of cultural impression to follow suit in. A person bathed in cultural inundation telling them to be and look like someone that they're not but who has absolute confidence in their own personal worth and integrity and no crippling mental state will rebuke the societal standards that surround them. Meanwhile a person will horrific self-doubt, chronic need to prove themselves by appeasing the masses, yet not finding themselves swept up in particular cultural expectations will have to find a different outlet for their problems. It's the combination of the two (and plenty of other factors, of course) that leads people to have these horrific and damage bodily modifications performed upon themselves, not just one or the other. You gotta have that mental conflict, and you've gotta face that cultural expectation in order for your actions to manifest themselves in this particular, "idealized form" sort of way. If we didn't think photoshopped air-brushed models were the human ideal, people wouldn't be modifying themselves to look that way...

Yep. Basically if they take the rings off their necks will fall over and break like it's made out of jello.

That's what I understood of it.

(The question was actually rhetorical; but that's a great answer to it.)

(Muttering indistinctly) Well, I mean... yeah, y'know... there's uh... um, I dunno... always rads... to show your approval... I mean, if you want?

 

[Gizmojunk]

(Muttering indistinctly) Well, I mean... yeah, y'know... there's uh... um, I dunno... always rads... to show your approval... I mean, if you want?

I always forget that the Rad link doesn't work until I enable Ajax (for a while).