/pol/shit, Or: How I learned to stop worrying and love the shitposting

TorontRayne said:
This is the first I have heard of this. I wonder why?
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Because none of you seem to actually read the article.

Retired anthropologist and author Dr Peter Andrews, formerly at the Natural History Museum in London, said: "It is possible that the human lineage originated in Europe, but very substantial fossil evidence places the origin in Africa, including several partial skeletons and skulls.

"I would be hesitant about using a single character from an isolated fossil to set against the evidence from Africa."




New evidence and research does not equate massive change in an otherwise widely accepted hypothesis based on a mountain of evidence. Science doesn't work that way.
Could it be true? Maybe. Is it true? Claiming that based on so little material is simply wrong.
 
Atomkilla said:
Because none of you seem to actually read the article.

Retired anthropologist and author Dr Peter Andrews, formerly at the Natural History Museum in London, said: "It is possible that the human lineage originated in Europe, but very substantial fossil evidence places the origin in Africa, including several partial skeletons and skulls.

"I would be hesitant about using a single character from an isolated fossil to set against the evidence from Africa."




New evidence and research does not equate massive change in an otherwise widely accepted hypothesis based on a mountain of evidence. Science doesn't work that way.
Could it be true? Maybe. Is it true? Claiming that based on so little material is simply wrong.
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I did read the article. I am saying why has it not been more commonly reported. Probably because it goes against the current consensus and it is like fighting a losing battle to ever do such a thing even if it is as simple as the EARTH IS NOT FLAT. I understand the data is inconclusive. It is still a major find in my opinion.
 
TorontRayne said:
I did read the article. I am saying why has it not been more commonly reported. Probably because it goes against the current consensus and it is like fighting a losing battle to ever do such a thing even if it is as simple as the EARTH IS NOT FLAT. I understand the data is inconclusive. It is still a major find in my opinion.
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You answer the issue yourself. Data is inconclusive and there is too little of it.
It's not fighting a losing battle, there is no battle at all. African origin hypothesis is the most dominant one because it is the best substantiated one - in order for a major shift to happen, more data and research is necesaary.

It is a major discovery, no doubt.
 
Atomkilla said:
You answer the issue yourself. Data is inconclusive and there is too little of it.
It's not fighting a losing battle, there is no battle at all. African origin hypothesis is the most dominant one because it is the best substantiated one - in order for a major shift to happen, more data and research is necesaary.

It is a major discovery, no doubt.
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My meaning is this:

If it was ever determined life came out of Europe there would be a huge SJW shit fit all over the world. There is too much entrenched ideology involved. I'm sure the word racist would be thrown around a few times.
 
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TorontRayne said:
My meaning is this:

If it was ever determined life came out of Europe there would be a huge SJW shit fit all over the world. There is too much entrenched ideology involved. I'm sure the word racist would be throw around a few times.
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So?
Shit fits of irrational people, be they left or right, are shit fits and nothing more.
 
Atomkilla beat me to it. I'll go a little further tho...

Humans being from Africa has nothing to do with some fetish for Africa, it's the evidence. Scientists look into ALL evidence, even to the contrary, it has *nothing to do with making Africa sad or happy*, it has nothing to do with Africa or liberalism or racism at all, but evidence.

What DOES have to do with race, is whenever *one lonely* researcher suddenly goes "oh, turns out we're all white people, and do not come from Africa after all!"
With those claims, it is commonplace to look into his claims, see if they hold any water, they usually don't (not cus of Africa-love, but because the pile of evidence for African origin is so vastly huge, no ammount of "Bulgarian professor" can diminish it)

Humans evolved from African hominids. Now... I'm sure if we look hard enough, some of those hominids - or even primate origins, might have started out in some non-African place, so happy hunting!
 
TheGM said:
Get with the times. scientists discovered that Europe was the birthplace of mankind, not Africa.
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And yet, that same article says this:
The team believe that evolution of hominids may have been driven by dramatic environmental changes which sparked the formation of the North African Sahara more than seven million years ago and pushed species further North.

They found large amounts of Saharan sand in layers dating from the period, suggesting that it lay much further North than today.
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So doesn't that means that it pushed African species up north because it was forming the North Sahara desert?
So... They originated in Europe because they got pushed from south Africa due to the Sahara desert expanding?
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It also says this:
However some experts were more skeptical about the findings.

Retired anthropologist and author Dr Peter Andrews, formerly at the Natural History Museum in London, said: "It is possible that the human lineage originated in Europe, but very substantial fossil evidence places the origin in Africa, including several partial skeletons and skulls.

"I would be hesitant about using a single character from an isolated fossil to set against the evidence from Africa."
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Holy crap... I didn't get any notification that more posts were available while writing my own... Damn stupid internet. Well anyway, tons of new posts I didn't read before writing this appeared out of nowhere...
 
Also, because it is becoming evident that australopiths may have been making tools earlier than Homo habilis it means that tool-making can no longer be seen as the sole prerogative of Homo.

There is a developing consensus that the relaxation of the criteria more than 50 years ago that saw the inclusion of Homo habilis into the genus Homo needs to be reconsidered.

Species that emerge slightly later from Africa, such as Homo ergaster, fit much more clearly within what we understand by the genus Homo. That species probably left Africa around 2 million years ago and migrated ultimately as far east as China and Indonesia where it evolved, eventually, into Homo erectus.

A number of further migrations out of Africa probably occurred after the initial Homo ergaster migration, one of which, Homo heidelbergensis, is considered by many palaeoanthropologists to be the ancestor of both Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis) and modern humans (Homo sapiens).

As far as we know, Neanderthals evolved outside of Africa, perhaps in response to the ice ages of Europe. Our ancestors remained in Africa where perhaps as early as 300,000 years ago, as revealed from recent redating of the Moroccan site of Jebel Irhoud, were well along in the process of evolving into modern humans.
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My thinking is on the Neanderthal, Zegh.

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...t-ancestor-may-have-been-first-out-of-africa/

https://medium.com/@docweighsin/is-there-a-neanderthal-lurking-in-your-genes-7eea6282dd34

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Denisovan’s also made significant contributions to the human genome? Here’s a striking example. Tibetans adapted to living in high altitudes that would make you and me gasp for air. It turns out they have a variant of a gene,EPAS1, that allows them to function at such altitudes. The source of the gene? Their Denisovan ancestors.
 
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Here is a article from the start of this year that sheds some interesting light about this subject:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42817323

Apparently there is now evidence that humanity ancestors came from Africa even earlier than it was thought, but all of those "relatives" faced extermination, our modern "human" was the branch that came from Africa later and didn't experienced extinction.

It's an interesting reading.

Also some degenerates were humping neanderthals? :shock:
 
Crni Vuk said:
I wouldn't be surprised if you end up as a school shooter one day.

Libtards. Libtards everywhere! But only I can rescue them! From themself! *Shotgunsounds*
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Wow. And you think you're the civil ones! Pretty funny that no other liberals feel like saying this one went too far, eh? I guess they all approve of your hilariously subhuman, immature, hateful statement.
 
Great, a new post. I have waited for this to happen so I don't double post.

Continents are all just parts of Pangaea anyway. So it was all the same place... So humans are all just Pangaeans in different places now. :lol:
 
Risewild said:
Great, a new post. I have waited for this to happen so I don't double post.

Continents are all just parts of Pangaea anyway. So it was all the same place... So humans are all just Pangaeans in different places now. :lol:
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Actually I think I read a recent theory trying to disprove that theory involving water under the Earth...I can't recall it from my databanks. Processor is fried.
 
And that is why I didn't want to post in this thread... My trollish nature surfaces and I mostly just shitpost... And this was supposed to be a serious thread (I think).
 
Liberalism, the party of blind hatred, blind ignorance, blatant double standards, hatred for the white man and anything you deem his, and the fetishization of anything that doesn't seem white to you. The party of insulting a man for debunking your lies, insulting him for not thinking highly of you after you do that, and calling him all the worst names you can think of.

I'm glad people are waking up and choosing to #WalkAway from the party of spiteful Pinkos who think everyone to the right of Marx is Literally Hitler(TM), because it means I don't have to publically debate Liberals and expose their lies, flaws, double standards, and inadequacies to the general public any more.

Everyone worth a damn already knows liberals are full of shit, or will learn it the second they see any easily-reposted meme that mocks liberals for attacking human rights, sucking the dick of Kim Jong Un's Sister, defending terrorists, any of the bad shit they've done recently, really.

I don't have to give libtards the time of day any more, which is good, because they are exhaustingly stupid. #BlueWave? More like #BlueFlush!

 
Risewild said:
And that is why I didn't want to post in this thread... My trollish nature surfaces and I mostly just shitpost... And this was supposed to be a serious thread (I think).
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Eh, it was designed to shitpost all along.
 
Pariah Dog said:
Kick the assholes out, tighten up your borders, and vet the fuck out of the legal immigrants. THIS ISN'T COMPLICATED. Unless you are just so torn up about your country's past that you have a deathwish, of course.
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Since I am working with those people, yes I am sorry to tell you it is complicated. Serousily, this is what really bothers me with 'right wingers' (I am not talking about you in particular). They always believe, that you just have to 'kick' someones ass and things will improve. Crime? Harder punishment! Ilegal migrants? Stronger borders! And patrols! Fences!

And then the same people complain how everyone has become an egoist fuck in society. Go figure.


Pariah Dog said:
Tell them to go through the process legally or GO THE FUCK BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM. And you fucking SHOOT anyone who jumps that border illegally, goddammit. Fucking CARPET BOMB THEM, I don't CARE. Borders and laws need to be fucking ENFORCED or they don't fucking EXIST.
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Ok. Here is the thing though. I agree with you. The legal way, should be prefered method. But here is the issue. There is no uniform way of applying for asylum 'legaly' in the European Union. They tried to get a standardized process for legal migration for the last 40 years. What they ended up with in the 90s was the Dublin I and Dublin II agreement which was very unfavourable for nations like Spain, Italy, Greence and any other European Nation close to the borders of the UE. So for decades they had to deal with most Asylumseekers, Migrants and Refugees in the past. Up to the point where suddenly 800.000 People showed up at the Hungarian border. And what has our European Hero Orban done? He allowed them to pass trough pointing them to the Austrian border, Austria got a little bit worried in that moment and that was where Merkel decided in accord with Austria and Hungary to take those people in. Merkel decided to suspend the Dublin II agreement for those aprox. 800.000 people.

And now, as there was a genuine effort in the EU to change the situation with the intention to relieve the border states of the EU, particularly Greece and Italy, we see a hell lot of nations, including Hungary blocking it. This is a seriously fucked up situation. And Orban and other right wingers throwing the blame around, isn't very helpfully really. What are they doing by the way to fix the reasons for migration and why refugees flee? What ideas do they have here? What are their planes? Wilders, Le Pen, Salvini or Orban don't really talk much about those topics.

So it really isn't just as simple like "Enforce the fucking border walls!". And even if you decide to use force, you seriously want to do it with 800.000 people? Or even more? How many times do you think is this supposed to work? And what kind of signal does that send to other nations? And you can bet, that even African nations, will find ways to hit us. We need them more, than they need us, considering the fact that we need their resources, not Africa ours. How long will the African continent just stand by and watch, as we kill millions of their people? Not to mention what such actions will mean to your own society. A society that is ready to carpet bomb civilians at their border, not just young men, but children, women, families, what kind of values does this represent? Look at how Hungary is criminalizing homless people. Look how Slowakia is treating Sinti and Roma in their nation. We see an increase in right wing viollence trough out Europe. You can not have a democratic liberal and open society with the intention to protect and uphold the human rights and dignity of everyone, but at the same time carpet bomb hundred thousands of civilians.
 
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TheGM said:
Get with the times. scientists discovered that Europe was the birthplace of mankind, not Africa.

Well Europeans start World Wars. Americans end them. so there is that.
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USA just first commits genocide themselves and gets away with it (Native Americans), then funds and profits from the war (US banks), then enables it (IBM enabled the Holocaust and other US companies benefited from it) and then steals wealth (including oil) from other countries to create the military industrial complex it uses to commit genocides on small, third world nations (Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Grenada, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, etc. etc.).
 
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