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(the official English translation of the German Criminal Code uses "incitement to hatred"[1][2]), is a concept in German criminal law that refers to incitement to hatred against segments of the population and refers to calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them, including assaults against the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning, or defaming segments of the population.[1][2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksverhetzung
So basically the LA Raiders fanbase would be a hate group in Germany.
 
Could be. I am not familiar with the LA Raiders fanbase. However, we do have a few soccer clubs in Germany where their fanbase is notoriously known for beeing racists, antisemtic and having very close relationships to extreme right wingers and hooligans. And they constantly get in trouble with the authorities. So there is that.

Secondly, the whole point of free speech is to protect speech that makes people uncomfortable, otherwise, what's the point?
It can be used to defend critics, unpopular opinion etc. Yes. And I would argue that's a very good thing. But I am not sure that's the sole purpose of free speech. Free speech has always changed in our societies. The kind of things people saw as free speech was definetly diefferent in 1718, 1818, 1918 and 2018. We probably never enjoyed as much expression of ideas as we do now - including Alex Jones. Yes, yes I know it's totall opression when Twitter, Facebook and Youtube bann you. But is Alex Jones in a prison? Has he been opressed, like physically? He can still start his own radio station or get his own servers to express his opinions. That's what free speech is. Your right to express your self. You do not have a right on broadcasting it over televsion or a network of your choice. Just as how Fox News is not forced to broadcoast speaches from Lenin or Stalin or Mao Zedong, even if a majority would demand it suddenly.

If this is really cencorship, then Alex Jones should have a very easy time at the court to prove it, or not?

First of all, who's deciding what is and isn't hate speech, this is ripe for abuse.
As with all laws, regulations and principles, it's always the society, the silent majority or the people, the community or call it what ever you will. I mean who's deciding what murder is or who's fitt to rule? Maybe you forgot the US was one a society where it was completely legal for someon to hang a black man, because it was an accepted pratcise by the society that that time, regardless if some individuals thought that it was wrong to do it. Luckily today, we reject such kind of barbarism, and why? Because society agreed on it that it's wrong.

We have the "incitement to hatred" in Germany for the last 70 years. And so far, we havn't become a dictatorship. Hell, we have even extrem right wingers in the government now, go figure.

So your racist comments adressed to east Yuropean and Balkanian people are actually illegal according to German law? So you are racist and a criminal on top of it, nice!
Exact quote please. You have a habit of taking things out of context.
 
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Exact quote please. You have a habit of taking things out of context.
Don't expect me to dig through tens of thousands walls of text only to argue some context with you. Also there's more than enough stuff based on false assumptions in your posts totally fitting that "assault against human dignity" classification, you're serious criminal dude.
 
Then I have to tell you right here and now, that you should either come up with the exact quotes and context, or that we will have to get this to the moderators if you insist in calling me sa 'criminal'. You think I am a criminal? Proove it. Explain your self, or leave it be.
 
Free Speech only protects you from the government, it doesn't protect you from the consequences of your speech like getting fired, banned from a plataform or getting sued for libel.

Also people like Jones celebrate when the government passes laws that would let businesses discriminate against others for their race and sexuality but cry when they get banned from a plataform for becoming legal liabilities. The cognitive dissonance is strong.
 
Free Speech only protects you from the government, it doesn't protect you from the consequences of your speech like getting fired, banned from a plataform or getting sued for libel.

Then stop pissing and moaning about the James Gunn firing. This is the bed you're making, now lie down in it.
 
Except I said James Gunn should've known better and that Disney is in their right to fire him. Oh wait, I forget you "shortcut" actually reading.
 
Since you call me a nazi supporter i.e. you accuse me of criminal activity in many of your posts without any proof, which in the same time is a proof of your "assault against human dignity", go ahead and cry to the moderators Vuk.
 
Except I said James Gunn should've known better and that Disney is in their right to fire him. Oh wait, I forget you "shortcut" actually reading.

You said he should have known better than, of all things, to not delete his pedo wisecracks. Nothing about MAKING them in the first place. "Quick, James, cover your tracks!" you cry from the shadows.

The firing of James Gunn was an actual coordinated effort by extremists to get someone fired over a difference in opinion, and even then I think Gunn should've known better than to not delete his pedophilia jokes after getting hired by Disney.

This is you pissing and moaning because it wasn't YOUR side that took a scalp. You're not against the idea of taking scalps, you just want it to be your team that takes the most.

Your side has now created a system where you get hit for talking shit just like everyone else, and you're doing every kind of mental backflip possible to basically say "IT'S DIFFEWENT WHEN WEEEE DO IT!!" Geeeeet fucked, brosef. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

For the record, I don't even CARE about the pedo shit Gunn posted. Know what I really dislike? His cackling and gloating about what happened to OTHER people he didn't happen to like on social media. TALK SHIT, GET HIT.
 
Well, like I said, he is free to make the pedo jokes he wants, but he also should brace himself for the consequences of making them on a public plataform, specially after getting hired by a family friendly company like Disney. I am consistent. The alt-right banded together to get him fired, but in the end it's on him for not handling his public plataform properly and it's Disney's right to terminate his contract.

This is you pissing and moaning because it wasn't YOUR side that took a scalp. You're not against the idea of taking scalps, you just want it to be your team that takes the most.

Maybe you should try reading and THINKING while you do it. Did you drop out of Elementary school? Your reading comprehension skills are pretty lacking I have to say.
 
Maybe you should try reading and THINKING while you do it. Did you drop out of Elementary school? Your reading comprehension skills are pretty lacking I have to say.

Yeah, fuck you, pedophile apologist. Stay away from children. You want to play this game? Bitch I have you clocked.
 
Are you coming up with Pedo fantasies now? Illietrate and a pedophile, explains why you are so overly aggressive online.
 
Are you coming up with Pedo fantasies now? Illietrate and a pedophile, explains why you are so overly aggressive online.

God you are a knuckledragging simpleton. "I-i-i'm rubber and you're glue!" Do you hear yourself right now? You're being a gigantic fucking hypocrite and rather than own up to that you'll dance around with your pants atop your head while declaring you've been crowned king. You would literally rather make yourself look like a mouthbreathing retard than recognize and own a CRITICAL fault in your character and reasoning. You're a mendacious little sociopath.

I fucking REPEAT:
This is you pissing and moaning because it wasn't YOUR side that took a scalp. You're not against the idea of taking scalps, you just want it to be your team that takes the most.
 
I think someone's meds ran out.

Is every last fucking Colombian bean-eating motherfucker as stupid and slimy as you? Boy I can't IMAGINE why Colombia's so fucked up right now. Blame the US, HAH. You stupid bastards would corkscrew your country into the ground with or without us. Dishonesty is apparently a common South American trait.

This is you pissing and moaning because it wasn't YOUR side that took a scalp. You're not against the idea of taking scalps, you just want it to be your team that takes the most.

REPEATING FOR EMPHASIS.
 
Well Pariah dog raging at his own stupidity aside.

Alex Jones can still just get a server and host his videos in there, Infowars is still up despite basically being nothing but partisian fake news. Socialists aren't coming for your free speech, you just gotta learn to behave like an adult on public plataforms. I know it's hard for some people to realize the internet is not their secret diary.
 
Well Pariah dog raging at his own stupidity aside.

Alex Jones can still just get a server and host his videos in there, Infowars is still up despite basically being nothing but partisian fake news. Socialists aren't coming for your free speech, you just gotta learn to behave like an adult on public plataforms. I know it's hard for some people to realize the internet is not their secret diary.

Yeah because CNN and them are doing so much better. There's a fucking very good reason trust in the press has absolutely plummeted, and InfoWars was a fucking drop in a big goddamn bucket. You're a partisan hack.
"Socialists aren't coming for your free speech lol"
No it's not like they've EVER DONE THAT BEFORE and it's not like the fucking pathetic champagne socialists of today are constantly agitating for hate speech legislation and other ways to directly undermine the First Amendment OH WAIT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED. GOD you're mendacious. Do you get through a day without lying to someone?
 
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