/pol/shit, Or: How I learned to stop worrying and love the shitposting

Walpknut said:
Colombia is basically a country built atop government corruption so you don't have to tell me not to believe government thruths. But the internet has a tendency towards muddling up legitimate claims by pairing them up with crackpot theories.

I mean for example: The Centro Democrativo party (currently leading the govt) is confirmed to be behind the paramilitar groups active all through the country and they have their hands soiled with narcotraffic money and their insistence on calling Mexican Cartel Militias filling their power vaccum "FARC Dissidents" is their transparent attempt to fuck up the Peace threaties. But then some nutter starts rambling on about them being also Satanists and that just gets silly.
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That is my point though. People dismiss valid beliefs because crazy people then attribute "YEAH AND THEM REPTILIANS ARE SUCKING UP ALL OUR OZONE!" which is why I joke about the fucking Reptilians all the time.

What they do is a classic way of attracting attention to something else while you steal someones fucking wallet. It is why Trump brings up nonsense on the regular. He is dumb in a lot of ways. He is also good at mind manipulation. It's how you rip people off for money.

Walpknut your country is in the middle of a Russia/US love feud. It will never end. I am sorry. It is either us or them.
 
Well the meddling of the US is a historical fact, nowadays they have less direct authority (mostly because they have switched their focus toward the middle east) but the damage is done. Things like their "Anti-communist" policies continue being used by politicians to scare people into voting for them, the drug trade evolved out of the War on drugs and it has taken a life of it's own among many other things. Right now the issue is the lack of infrastructure that right wing governments have no reason to improve. It's a pretty complex problem that has many of it's roots on the US' historical interference on south america.
 
Walpknut said:
Well the meddling of the US is a historical fact, nowadays they have less direct authority (mostly because they have switched their focus toward the middle east) but the damage is done. Things like their "Anti-communist" policies continue being used by politicians to scare people into voting for them, the drug trade evolved out of the War on drugs and it has taken a life of it's own among many other things. Right now the issue is the lack of infrastructure that right wing governments have no reason to improve. It's a pretty complex problem that has many of it's roots on the US' historical interference on south america.
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The only way you will ever lose that issue is if the entire South American continent became one Union.
 
TorontRayne said:
The only way you will ever lose that issue is if the entire South American continent became one Union.
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They all hate each other too much to do that. I mean, jesus, look at shit like the Paraguayan War. They hate each other so much they'll commit demographic suicide to spit in each others' eyes.
 
Heh that didn't last too long did it? Probably because Spain was too busy holding down their crumbling foothold in Mexico in the years ahead.

The 18th and 19th century squabbles are interesting to look at.
 
UNASUR was becoming a thing, but the right wing governments started saying how it was all communism and Colombia is gonna pull out of it. Too much infrastructure and collaboration makes the oligarchs get scared.
 
Walpknut said:
UNASUR was becoming a thing, but the right wing governments started saying how it was all communism and Colombia is gonna pull out of it. Too much infrastructure and collaboration makes the oligarchs get scared.
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I am curious to see what happen when all the oil runs out in the Middle East. I have no doubt South America will be on the hotspot again once people start thinking about invading the US. Don't let them use you to get to us. :naughty:
 
Porky President here is rubbing his little piggy hoofs trying to get Fracking into the country, people are protesting against it (after voting the pig into power due to "communism" scares). Only hope left for the next 4 years is in the "right to opposition" reform that came from the peace threaties, but it's gonna be rough. That's why I am trying to get out of here in 2-3 years, maybe comeback when the next elections are held.
 
TorontRayne said:
I am curious to see what happen when all the oil runs out in the Middle East.
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A brief moment of panic amongst the Saudi royals as they realize their godsforsaken backwards desert shithole no longer has anything to hold over the heads of the rest of the world, followed by immediate "renegotiation" of any and all arms deals and so on to Saudi Arabia. Good things, basically.
 
Walpknut said:
Porky President here is rubbing his little piggy hoofs trying to get Fracking into the country, people are protesting against it (after voting the pig into power due to "communism" scares). Only hope left for the next 4 years is in the "right to opposition" reform that came from the peace threaties, but it's gonna be rough. That's why I am trying to get out of here in 2-3 years, maybe comeback when the next elections are held.
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Just stay in Japan.
 
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That's how free speech works, innit?
 
By restricting hate speech? Yes, telling people that they can't run around preaching genocide and discrminating minorities is totally cencorship.

Didn't you get totally hissy with the intention to denounce me to the German authorities going all SJW-PC-Snowflake on my ass, when I called you someone who's empowering Nazis trough his rhetoric?

Where is my free speech?
 
A baby Hitler is born every time when socialists start to restrict "hate speech".
How exactly was your free speech restricted by German authorities? Oh wait, it all happened in your head actually. Good to see your arse still hurts, it proves you were trolled really hard, gotta do it more often!
 
First of all, who's deciding what is and isn't hate speech, this is ripe for abuse.
Secondly, the whole point of free speech is to protect speech that makes people uncomfortable, otherwise, what's the point? That means repugnant assholes like Alex Jones and the Westboro Baptist inbreds and Louie Farrakhan get to speak too. We're very much free to ignore them or ridicule them in kind as they deserve. The best thing you can do is give their opinions the light of day where they will wither under scrutiny.
Thirdly, speaking of those dictators, free speech and Chomsky's floating around here.
Who's the North Korean Chomsky? The Chi-com Chomsky? The Soviet Chomsky? Which gulag did they die in?
 
valcik said:
A baby Hitler is born every time when socialists start to restrict "hate speech".
How exactly was your free speech restricted by German authorities? Oh wait, it all happened in your head actually. Good to see your arse still hurts, it proves you were trolled really hard, gotta do it more often!
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Hmm, I don't think you understand.

You're telling me right now "That's cencorship", then you go on and tell me "Baby Hitlers" are born when "socialists" start to restrict Hate speech. If I take Germany as example, we have the,
Volksverhetzung, (the official English translation of the German Criminal Code uses "incitement to hatred"[1][2]), is a concept in German criminal law that refers to incitement to hatred against segments of the population and refers to calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them, including assaults against the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning, or defaming segments of the population.[1][2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksverhetzung

In which way was that made by 'Socialists'? The Ruling party in the late 1940s was the CDU, a conservative party. And no, of course my free speech wasn't restricted by the German Authorities, but if I take your words as fact, you wanted to deneounce me based on what I told to you, which was something you simply didn't like? And now you tell me it's cencorship when hate speech is fobidden?

Don't you see the irony here?

My point was, that everyone has his limits when it comes to free speech as there is no unlimited form of free speech. therenever was and never will be, or some kind of society where everyone can say everything at all times. Even in the United States. You have corporate rights, personal rights, house holders's rights etc. and they can all get in conflict with the free speech of another person. Not to mention there is a grave mistake about free speech floating around. I quote: "Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or sanction." It does not mean however, freedom of consequences. It is not cencorship when your boss, a black person, is firing you because you called him a 'god damn nigger that shouls get back to africa' for example. Or if your employer is a Jew and he's firing you because you dennied the Holocaust in public and he's found out about it.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Volksverhetzung, (the official English translation of the German Criminal Code uses "incitement to hatred"[1][2]), is a concept in German criminal law that refers to incitement to hatred against segments of the population and refers to calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them, including assaults against the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning, or defaming segments of the population.[1][2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksverhetzung
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So your racist comments adressed to east Yuropean and Balkanian people are actually illegal according to German law? So you are racist and a criminal on top of it, nice!
 
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